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Has everybody lost their F'in mind?
  • jaybeck
    Posts: 606
    We've lost a derby game, yes we are all dissapointed but now we have a team ready and rested for a FA Cup quarter final. Think people need to deeply evaluate the sitution before they divulge into ridicule.

    I'd rather have Moyes in charge for another 10 years rather than sit in the relegationzone under Walter Smith and the likes.

    Mark my words, if we win on saturday you will all swallow your pride and regret some of the things you've said tonight.. absolutely pathetic
  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,216
    I'm with you on this mate, however, i can understnad everyone's initial reaction and frustration. 
  • blue32years
    Posts: 16,331
    F uck off with your rational ,sound minded discussion.

    Coming on here with facts and 5 hit


    Who do you think you are Alfred Einstein ?
  • azzo
    Posts: 513
    jaybeck said:

    We've lost a derby game, yes we are all dissapointed but now we have a team ready and rested for a FA Cup quarter final. Think people need to deeply evaluate the sitution before they divulge into ridicule.

    I'd rather have Moyes in charge for another 10 years rather than sit in the relegationzone under Walter Smith and the likes.

    Mark my words, if we win on saturday you will all swallow your pride and regret some of the things you've said tonight.. absolutely pathetic


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    Completely agree with you, in ten years time what will you remember beating Liverpool 1-0 on a march tuesday night or a semi final or even a final at wembley?

    Think of the bigger picture!, but if Sunderland beat us I will be highly dissapointed
  • cjohno
    Posts: 5,174
    jaybeck said:

    We've lost a derby game, yes we are all dissapointed but now we have a team ready and rested for a FA Cup quarter final. Think people need to deeply evaluate the sitution before they divulge into ridicule.

    I'd rather have Moyes in charge for another 10 years rather than sit in the relegationzone under Walter Smith and the likes.

    Mark my words, if we win on saturday you will all swallow your pride and regret some of the things you've said tonight.. absolutely pathetic


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    you dont use a merseyside derby at anfield to totally show a lack of respect to your fans, they paid good money and there was no need to rest so many, it was a joke and tactically abject from moyes, jellavic , osman, drenthe didnt need resting, what happened to starting your strongest team and withdrawing players if things are going ok, he could of done same on saturday, but whether the players were fit or not the performance and attitude was appalling, they went out on the pitch a beaten side, 6 of those players played in the reserve derby last week and got the back ripped out of them by there ressies and he thinks they could get a result against there first team lol
  • escla
    Posts: 2,453
    blue32years said:

    F uck off with your rational ,sound minded discussion.

    Coming on here with facts and 5 hit


    Who do you think you are Alfred Einstein ?


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    Absolutely right ! Since when did we ever have sound minded discussion on here ffs !
  • BlueShark
    Posts: 1,398
    Moyes obviously didn't rate this game as important as Saturdays.

    The minute I saw Anichebe in the starting line up I knew there was no danger of changing our 10 year record at Anfield.

    It's going to be a right pain in the ar$e putting up with the RS gloating over their win (have to say they deserved it) and I wish we had played as we do against the bigger teams...but with wholesale changes as Moyes made it was going to be well nigh impossible.

    DM has gambled on throwing the Derby in favour of getting a result on Saturday...to be honest the fact it was the RS bothers me not at all...I'd be equally disappointed with the team selection if we'd played Wigan. I 'd just hoped that we would play our strongest team, but DM obviously thought differently.

    Time will tell if it was the right call.
  • mattyod
    Posts: 305
    Rest players is a poor excuse in my mind as Johno outlined most the players he rested have hardly played recently. Also why not rest Felliani who has done most our running over the last few weeks (probably our most important player for Sunday) and play Rodwell there which is his natural position. Why not play Gueye on the wing instead of Anichebe ( I think he was on the wing because he was feebly tracked back with Kelly a couple of times but to be honest he didn't look like he knew where he was playing.) as it is his natural position. Why push Pinaar into the middle (again not 100% where he was playing either) when you could have given Barkley a game in his natural position.

    We started so badly that they grew in confidence and set it up for the one sided match it turned out to be. I don't want to be negative as we are starting to play much better and recently had some great results but I think it was a dangerous decision and would have rather they went into Saturday on the back of a good result against RS.
  • cjohno
    Posts: 5,174
    and how come baines hasnt missed a game for over 2 years and he doesnt need a rest.
  • 1ceablue
    Posts: 3,253
    You know how this will now pan out. Our rested but demoralised players will be like lambs to the slaughter while the re-motivated RS march into the semi's..........
  • Jayee019
    Posts: 902
    It is people's frustrations comming out which is understandable in such a high profile game. But looking at the bigger pitcure i can see what DM was doing giving valuable players rest and giving players comming back from injury a chance.

    We all know the outcome and we all have to deal with it but we should be able to discuss as adults and there are some that can and some that let there emotions get the better of them. We just have to learn to get along.
  • Blue Linnet
    Posts: 61
    Anyone, and I mean anyone, who considers the circumstances surrounding last nights humiliation in anyway acceptable, FA Cup Quarter-Final at the weekend or not, seriously needs their head read.

    Who the hell are we to play a weakened side against anybody let alone in a Merseyside Derby? You concentrate on the game infront of you, you play your strongest 11 at all times and last night was testament to what happens when you don't.

    I seriously hope that in the cold light of day, Moyes learns a very valuable lesson from this but if it takes defeat against Sunderland to ram it home then so be it, I've been an Evertonian all my life (48yrs) and displays like that witnessed last night have no place at Everton, money or no money there is no excuse. 

  • Jayee019
    Posts: 902
    Blue Linnet said:

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    Sorry to disagree. But Everton do not have a big squad. We have to look at the bigger pitcure first.. Our first goal is to get back in to Europe in some respect.

    Do you think a league win against liverpool will achieve this? It reallys grates me we lost. But we have to focus on the FA CUP two wins were in the final. With a good chance for europe with only Spurs, Chelski and Liverpool the only big teams left.

    Two/ three wins in the league will not get us in to europe so finishing as close to and in the top 10 is a must.

    I am hoping for a spurs semi final and a liverpool final and we walk away with the cup. How perfect will that revenge be.
  • mattyod
    Posts: 305
    If we had won we would have been up to 7th, most seasons that is good enough to get into Europe. Also our run in is not bad and we would only be 4 points of Newcastle. I think if we had gone out to win the game last night and kept the momentum going we could have managed a top 6 finish and that same momentum could have taken us all the way in the Cup.

    My issue also is not the players selected (except Vic) but the formation. Pinaar and Vic were all over the place leaving us completely exposed on the left and Rodwell and Felliani never play well together.

    We looked lost and not up for it like the first half of the season. I think this will have done us more harm for Saturday than benefitting from some rested players.
  • NSNO
    Posts: 3,122
    jaybeck said:

    We've lost a derby game, yes we are all dissapointed but now we have a team ready and rested for a FA Cup quarter final. Think people need to deeply evaluate the sitution before they divulge into ridicule.

    I'd rather have Moyes in charge for another 10 years rather than sit in the relegationzone under Walter Smith and the likes.

    Mark my words, if we win on saturday you will all swallow your pride and regret some of the things you've said tonight.. absolutely pathetic



    well said lad......this is still the biggest week of our season, and saturday is our biggest game of the season (our biggest game since the cup final 3 years ago)....i'm excited about saturday already....and i think Moyes's team selection has given us the best chance of beating sunderland....
  • jaybeck
    Posts: 606
    You people are acting like the derby is the most important fixture in the calender year and at the same time ridicule moyes for winning 0 trophies in his 10 years. He drops key players so that when Saturday comes we are at our strongest.

    He avoided playing players who are always up for getting a yellow card or even a red so that we have a full squad at our disposal.

    He's seeing this year as a chance to finally win a trophy for us loyal blues who have backed him since day 1. He doesn't want to take any risk in being kicked out of the FA cup and fair play to him.

    He fielded a squad you'd consider to have been a first team squad at the beginning of the season with all our injuries.

    We've progressed so far in the last 10 years and I'm happy to say I'm still a strong supporter of Moyes and will be during his time at Everton. COYB. IMWT.
  • cjohno
    Posts: 5,174
    we still might lose saturday ,what then, hes gonna luck a right **** if we lose, throw away the derby only to get knocked out of the cup , well if we do at least the players can have a nice rest untill the end of the season playing nothing games, ah well at least moyesy will be happy to have everyone fresh.
  • Blue Linnet
    Posts: 61
    Every game matters and while people make excuses for mediocre man, so shall we be. You reap what you sow, I'm not a moyezoid, never have been and never will be.

    "The big picture" is this,

    The day we stop caring whether we win the derby or not, the day it doesn't matter if we finish above the red **** or not, the day you jeopardise everything that has taken a season to put together for the sake of a day at wembley is the day the school of science closes down.

    Defeat I can handle, capitulation from the first whistle I cannot and Moyes might as well have scribbled down his team selections on a white flag. I bet King Kenny couldn't believe his luck and let's not forget they to are in FA Cup action this weekend, did they REST their players? NO, give it any fragrance you like..............it still stinks
  • murray1878
    Posts: 2,879
    jaybeck said:

    We've lost a derby game, yes we are all dissapointed but now we have a team ready and rested for a FA Cup quarter final. Think people need to deeply evaluate the sitution before they divulge into ridicule.

    I'd rather have Moyes in charge for another 10 years rather than sit in the relegationzone under Walter Smith and the likes.

    Mark my words, if we win on saturday you will all swallow your pride and regret some of the things you've said tonight.. absolutely pathetic


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    I would like nothing more mate but it is a big IF we win on saturday. There are no guarantees in football and I believe u shud go into each game giving urself the best possible chance and not be thinking about the game after. If players had of got tired in derby take them off for the guys who are returning, works best for both. No way should any1 who has not played a full 90 mins in months go straight in and play 90 mins in a derby. Give them 30 mins whaen some of the guys who played on saturday get tired. Jelavic wud of benefited from playing 70 mins or so I believe. I agree with him starting Hibo and Pienaar considering he cant play at weekend anyway, but playing Rodwell, Jags and Anichebe was a joke
  • IhateRS
    Posts: 1,091
    I kind of like that he gave it the old.. Its only Liverpool and they don't matter, bigger fish to fry... attitude, but having said that I still don't see us as having put out that bad a side..
    Yes I would of kept Jags benched and broken anichebe's legs so I didn't have to bother making an excuse for not playing him, but how many people said Straq was the mutts recently, wasn't Osman MOM or there abouts for several of our recent games, isn't Coleman classed as a decent winger anymore, Pienaar not good enough for you? Baines.. Disitn etc not good enough?.. bottom line, we should of been better and the players themselves have to take some blame, there was plenty enough out there to give them a game and the players he bought on if anything made us worse.. They beat us because they played like it was their cup final and we played like it will be our cup final on the weekend.
    I blame Moyes for not motivating the players well enough but the players take most of the blame imo.

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