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A new man or moyes
  • NSNO
    Posts: 3,114
    sambo applecart said:

    why cant everyone post this sensibly


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    Thank you my good man.....
  • david14
    Posts: 279
    glenn 76 said:

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    we've seen everything moyes has to offer.  nothing is going to change as long as moyes is in charge.  it will always be the same - finish top 6, get to a cup final, be a hard working/tough to beat side. 

    sticking with moyes you know what you are getting were as going for a new manager is risky
  • AndyZ
    Posts: 101
    david14 said:

    we've seen everything moyes has to offer.  nothing is going to change as long as moyes is in charge.  it will always be the same - finish top 6, get to a cup final, be a hard working/tough to beat side.  


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    finishing top 6 every year.. getting to cup finals... is this not a great achievement when you consider the financial constraints Moyes is working with?

    To say Moyes has reached his peak is daft.  Moyes has taken us as far as possible with the amount of money that is invested into the squad.  Give him more money, and then we will see "everything he has to offer".
  • Ivdlit
    Posts: 2,044
    Bily didn't become as expected,
    with few money, we had to get Beckford here,
    so a few seasons with not the ideal players has gone,

    This time with a good run, we can achieve something, and after the summer, with proper money to spend and good time to bring in players, with so close to a CL place, Moyes must know who to bring in to make it even better next time around.

    So, I say Moyes: stay, and get these players you want this summer!
  • ToffeeCup
    Posts: 2,982

    The only thing that will change Everton is a new owner.

    So I suppose it depends where you think the club should be in order to get one of those. Being a well run club, top 6, maybe playing in the europa more often than not.

    Or going through managers like sweets, spending money on different managers players culminating in getting relegated....financial troubles, then a fire sale.

    Recent club buying history suggests the best way to get a new owners is to do the latter. I'm very sure I wouldn't want to see that. Maybe you would....for the greater good and all that?
  • Ivdlit
    Posts: 2,044
    And building around Jelavic doesn't take a window or two. Let's go for the third. COYB NSNO.
  • david14
    Posts: 279
    AndyZ said:

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    yer of course those are great achievements.  i'm not knocking him or his achievements.  i'm just saying top 6 and a cup final is the limit.  i can't see moyes achieveing more than that with or wihtout money

    if evertonians want to take the next step i.e like tottenham, then you've got to take a risk on a new manager.  but if you want to stay in the top 6 and not get relegated then stick with moyes
  • david14
    Posts: 279
    AndyZ said:

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    for starters we're never gonna have money to spend.  simple as that.  so your argument is irrelevant anyway.  but let's just say we did have money i still don't beleive moyes could take us to the next level

    he constantly makes stupid mistakes regarding the starting line up. persistently plays people out of position game after game year after year. hesitates with substitutions, uses negative tactics and plays dull football (the football has improved over the years but mainly it's still dull)

    money is not gonna erradicate those mistakes

  • Snowcone
    Posts: 6,776
    Oh jesus now I'm undecided.
  • Ivdlit
    Posts: 2,044

    Snowcone said:

    Oh jesus now I'm undecided.


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    The first feeling is always good. So stick to it.
  • HOWIE8
    Posts: 7,570
    I like Moyes and have loved the Everton identity he's brought back that kinda got lost under Walt, he's put our name in the papers for the right reasons, and at times the wrong ones but thats ok because its still yer name being publicised. However i do think its maybe time for a change to build on his foundations, as really we just go round in circles every season, its too much of an "and if yer know yer History". It would be a risk as it might not work, but i just feel the record needs changing, for the fans and the players, new ideas: new energy new begining. At the end of the day its NSNO, are we right to accept stability or do we expect more of our Club, and Moyes as of yet has won no silverware. If he stays i wont complain, but if he goes i'll be excited about a new era...just my opinion like...
  • Snowcone
    Posts: 6,776
    Yer get someone new in.
  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,216
    Snowcone said:

    Yer get someone new in.


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    you havnt been running through Scott's house with 29 other naked men late at night have you?
  • ToffeeCup
    Posts: 2,982
    sambo applecart said:

    you havnt been running through Scott's house with 29 other naked men late at night have you?


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    I bet he has.....































    I'd stick a grant on it!
  • cjohno
    Posts: 5,169
    moyes will leave eventually thats guarenteed, lets bring in someone new , we will end up losing felli and maybe baines and i can see moyesys appetite for the job dropping even more after that, we lack new ideas and any freshness, everything seems stale and stagnant , bring in someone with new ideas and someone who can develop and trust some young players, fed up of moyes moaning about his small squad and tired players but hes got 6/7 players who could do a decent job given a chance yet there left on the bench or in the dressing room, might of been a better season if moyes would actually use players hes bought. im a little bored of the same old every year, we need something new :)
  • 1ceablue
    Posts: 3,253
    We need someone who understands management speak, can bullsh!t the press, has a big stern picture of himself in his house, knows how to spend shedloads of cash on utter trash and has three envelopes like that genius over the road.......
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