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  • spengler
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    i would be absolutely gutted if he doent pull through this one!..but you have to say would he want another 6 or 7 years like the last lot he just had?..a body can only take so much before it starts to give up.
  • OGV
    Posts: 909
    Without intensive and constant supervision to deal with his mental health.. he will not survive... this treatment now... unfortunately... is delaying what appears to be inevitable...
  • MavisCruet
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    This treatment is another Priory style 12 step wankfest which has failed him time and again.  The success rate of it is generally poor and it's massively outdated, but somehow it's where all the money goes.

    He needs help, but not the same help over and over again.  Fly him to a Bhuddist sanctuary in Nepal, or indeed look at more scientific conventional treatment, not the Priory crap again.

    He's far from well, he's what 47?  He looks like he's in his 60s.

  • OGV
    Posts: 909
    just google bipolar and alcoholism and you can see what he is facing...
  • MavisCruet
    Posts: 1,794

    I know what he's facing and I don't think another 12 step thing will help.  Turning the power to God, humbly asking He removed your flaws is horseshit.  Even devout Catholics sin against god, but ask forgiveness.  This process takes away the tools within the individual to be able to help themselves while pinning it all on God.

    The success rate of any Priory or Priory style clinic is carefully doctored, but they're really not very good at all.  He needs different help.  I am not saying some New Age happy clappy crap, that wasn't why I suggested Nepal, it was that he can't escape and get booze from there, and that he would become significantly healthier.  

    The £30k that his showbiz friends stumped up before telling everyone how good they are and announcing it isn't just wasted, it's counterproductive.  Every time people hear the words The Priory they think it's the best.  It's not, and it relies on a God who can't help as he doesn't exist.

  • MavisCruet
    Posts: 1,794

    For sensible advice, please see here, and no, it's not spam, it's Nottingham City's alcohol service.

    http://www.last-orders.org/


  • OGV
    Posts: 909
    i agree mate... and am not a big fan off putting a lot of people with those issues in the same place together...
  • MavisCruet
    Posts: 1,794
    Obviously, despite Gordon Taylor's dabbling with breaches of confidentiality, I don't know what his diagnosis is, or what his treatment is.  But alcohol alone, as an extreme, there are things that can be done to make it physically very, very difficult to consume alcohol without making yourself really ill.  Think Alex from Clockwork Orange, though it's more biochemical.  It's a last resort, but it nearly always works short term.
  • brboy1
    Posts: 958
    Alex Higgins had all these treatments,even down to a new liver.

    If its not within yourself to stop,then it ain't happenin'.Not all can be saved,unfortunately.
  • MavisCruet
    Posts: 1,794

    Aye, but these treatments don't ask if it's within yourself, it's between you and GOD.  Always cocking God.

    Much as it is sad to see anyone die of cirrhosis, Best getting a new liver was a disgrace.  Any normal person would have had to wait a long time and not drink for a year to get one.  But no, not Besty, he's a legend in his own local.  Someone might have lived a long time on the liver he took up. 

  • keyring
    Posts: 91
    GREAT PLAYER =D>

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