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Posts: 4,630February 5 Ok so I just wanted to take a more in depth look at recent form as apparently we are woeful at the minute and have no chance of 4th place against those around us so I've taken a look at recent form (last 10 games) and the final run in......I've included Chelsea who currently lie in 3rd ( You will see why a bit later) and also Swansea in 8th because Allseeingcuntface thinks we'll finish below them....
Chelsea - Played 10, Won 6, Drew 2, Lost 2 - 20 pts
Spurs - Played 10, Won 5, Drew 4, Lost 1 - 19 pts
Everton - Played 10, Won 5, Drew 4, Lost 1 - 19 pts
Arsenal - Played 10, Won 6, Drew 2, Lost 2 - 20 pts
Liverpool - Played 10, Won 5, Drew 2, Lost 3 - 17 pts
Swansea - Played 10, Won 2, Drew 5, Lost 3 - 11 pts
So it's pretty clear from the last 10 matches how we are doing against the teams around us - Same number of points from Spurs and only 1 point short of Arsenal and Chelsea's haul over the last 10 matches.
Liverpool are 2 points worse off while Swansea don't even come into consideration.
So now let's look at the final league run-in for these teams......and also consider that Chelsea, Spurs and Arsenal still have European games with Chelsea and Arsenal also still in the FA Cup.
Chelsea
Chelsea V Wigan
Man City V Chelsea
Chelsea V West Brom
Fulham V Chelsea
Chelsea V West Ham
Southampton V Chelsea
Chelsea V Sunderland
Chelsea V Tottenham
Liverpool V Chelsea
Chelsea V Swansea
Man Utd V Chelsea
Aston Villa V Chelsea
Chelsea V Everton
So Chelsea are still contesting on 3 fronts and in their remaining league fixtures have to play 5 of the top 6 team.....Chelsea can definitely be caught.
Spurs
Tottenham V Newcastle
West Ham V Tottenham
Tottenham V Arsenal
Liverpool V Tottenham
Tottenham V Fulham
Swansea V Tottenham
Tottenham V Everton
Chelsea V Tottenham
Tottenham V Man City
Wigan V Tottenham
Tottenham V Southampton
Stoke V Tottenham
Tottenham V Sunderland
Tottenham have 4 London Derbies and 4 matches against top 6 opposition.....with an eye on the Euro League we can hope they progress to the next round.....Spurs can be caught.
Everton
Man Utd V Everton
Norwich V Everton
Everton V Reading
Arsenal V Everton
Everton V Man City
Everton V Stoke
Tottenham V Everton
Everton V QPR
Sunderland V Everton
Everton V Fulham
Liverpool V Everton
Everton V West Ham
Chelsea V Everton
So we have 5 games against the top 6 and 1 against Liverpool......tough yes, BUT, out of these teams we have only been bettered by Chelsea where we were the better team, we've beaten United and Spurs and drew with Arsenal, City and the RS....we can take points off all of these teams.
Arsenal
Sunderland V Arsenal
Arsenal V Aston Villa
Tottenham V Arsenal
Swansea V Arsenal
Arsenal V Everton
Arsenal V Reading
West Brom V Arsenal
Arsenal V Norwich
Fulham V Arsenal
Arsenal V Man Utd
QPR V Arsenal
Arsenal V Wigan
Newcastle V Arsenal
So Arsenal seem to have an easier run in playing the top 6 only 3 times, however again, they are competing in 3 competitions and have tough derbies and away games. We also still have a slender lead over them meaning that they will have to better us by one result during the run in.
and finally.......( cos let's face it I've went on for a while now and Swansea have no chance)
Liverpool
Liverpool V West Brom
Liverpool V Swansea
Wigan V Liverpool
Liverpool V Tottenham
Southampton V Liverpool
Aston Villa V Liverpool
Liverpool V West Ham
Reading V Liverpool
Liverpool V Chelsea
Newcastle V Liverpool
Liverpool V Everton
Fulham V Liverpool
Liverpool V QPR
So clearly the RS have the easiest run-in on paper with only 3 games against the top 6, although in saying that they haven't beaten any of the top ten this season....they are still in Europe and have to go to Russia, fingers crossed they continue to win in Europe. We're also 6 points to the good on them meaning they have to better us by three results in the remaining including at least 2 wins more than us....they haven't done it all season, what's to say they'll do it now.
So to sign off, this is for all the doomsdayers and negative nellys who say we're not firing, that we're going to get caught.....I say this..... we will Qualify for Europe definitely with a fantastic chance of Champions League.
I believe we will get top 4 and I'll be right behind us all the way - I hope you will be doing the same.
COYB. NSNO.
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Posts: 4,630February 5sambo applecart said:
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Stats and facts mate......stats.......and.......facts!!! -
Posts: 4,630February 5BlueShark said:
Truly hope you're right mate.
Great post.-----------------
Cheers blud, truths hurts so some of the negheads will be on here trying to shoot me down but it's there for all to see.... -
Posts: 2,958February 5
Its admirable optimism. And maybe we do fair better against the better teams. If we don't make it then this season looks to have been one of the more easier chances to make that 4th spot.
Personally though, I feel we've just drawn not only too many games but games against sides we really should have taken all three points against. We've also been by far the better team in these games too. Which you could argue points towards Jelavic's loss of form a touch.
Also, it was clear that we needed to strengthen in the window given the position. And yes Fer was unfortunate, but you look at some of the signings out there like Micho and some of the french hord that newcastle have brought in and you'd have to concede that, bullying wigan out of a promising teenager aside, Everton and its scouting system did badly in what was a critical transfer window.
I'm not being negative. If anything maybe Moyes needs another go in the europa cup. If Fellaini does go then so be it. What I would like to see is Moyes winning something. Even if that means putting out a full strength side in the carling cup!
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Posts: 24,182February 5Winston Wolfe said:
Stats and facts mate......stats.......and.......facts!!!
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its the wider focus mate, not jsut what we see ourselves, their is more to it than that, good to see it in black and white :) -
Posts: 2,732February 5 Great post that Winston, also Liverpool have to play some of those teams fighting relegation i think they play the bottom 6, which can be harder than mid table plodders like Fulham and that, should be an interesting run in especially if chelsea continue to implode!Arsenal are the danger for me as they seem to be finding a way to win ugly which wasn't there at the start of the season
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Posts: 483February 5Winston Wolfe said:
Chelsea and Arsenal also still in the FA Cup.
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Damn when did we get beat by oldham thought we would have went through to the 1/4 finals i must have been asleep for most of Feb to have missed it. lol :-D
Anyway I do yhink you are right Winston 4th spot can and hopefully will be ours by the end of the season. RS will finish 7th ima -
Posts: 24,182February 5Winston Wolfe said:
Stats and facts mate......stats.......and.......facts!!!
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Tell me more about Phil Neville ;) -
Posts: 496February 5 Hands up if you would take needing 3 points at Chelsea to gurantee 4th now, I would imagine it!
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Posts: 4,630February 5sambo applecart said:
Tell me more about Phil Neville ;)
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With 2pts......without 1pt.....nuff said. -
Posts: 483February 5sambo applecart said:
Tell me more about Phil Neville ;)
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He likes long walks on the beach holding hands while dipping his toes in the water, he has a glass of port wth his tea each night to help him sleep and sleeps on a bed of clouds.
Oh wait sorry sambo thats what i imagine of you when you visit me in my dreams :"> :X 8-> -
Posts: 4,630February 5bigbluet0e said:
Damn when did we get beat by oldham thought we would have went through to the 1/4 finals i must have been asleep for most of Feb to have missed it. lol :-D
Anyway I do yhink you are right Winston 4th spot can and hopefully will be ours by the end of the season. RS will finish 7th ima-----------------
Beat us 7-0 lad. -
Posts: 2,450February 5Winston Wolfe said:
Ok so I just wanted to take a more in depth look at recent form as apparently we are woeful at the minute and have no chance of 4th place against those around us so I've taken a look at recent form (last 10 games) and the final run in......I've included Chelsea who currently lie in 3rd ( You will see why a bit later) and also Swansea in 8th because Allseeingcuntface thinks we'll finish below them....
Chelsea - Played 10, Won 6, Drew 2, Lost 2 - 20 pts
Spurs - Played 10, Won 5, Drew 4, Lost 1 - 19 pts
Everton - Played 10, Won 5, Drew 4, Lost 1 - 19 pts
Arsenal - Played 10, Won 6, Drew 2, Lost 2 - 20 pts
Liverpool - Played 10, Won 5, Drew 2, Lost 3 - 17 pts
Swansea - Played 10, Won 2, Drew 5, Lost 3 - 11 pts
So it's pretty clear from the last 10 matches how we are doing against the teams around us - Same number of points from Spurs and only 1 point short of Arsenal and Chelsea's haul over the last 10 matches.
Liverpool are 2 points worse off while Swansea don't even come into consideration.
So now let's look at the final league run-in for these teams......and also consider that Chelsea, Spurs and Arsenal still have European games with Chelsea and Arsenal also still in the FA Cup.
Chelsea
Chelsea V Wigan
Man City V Chelsea
Chelsea V West Brom
Fulham V Chelsea
Chelsea V West Ham
Southampton V Chelsea
Chelsea V Sunderland
Chelsea V Tottenham
Liverpool V Chelsea
Chelsea V Swansea
Man Utd V Chelsea
Aston Villa V Chelsea
Chelsea V Everton
So Chelsea are still contesting on 3 fronts and in their remaining league fixtures have to play 5 of the top 6 team.....Chelsea can definitely be caught.
Spurs
Tottenham V Newcastle
West Ham V Tottenham
Tottenham V Arsenal
Liverpool V Tottenham
Tottenham V Fulham
Swansea V Tottenham
Tottenham V Everton
Chelsea V Tottenham
Tottenham V Man City
Wigan V Tottenham
Tottenham V Southampton
Stoke V Tottenham
Tottenham V Sunderland
Tottenham have 4 London Derbies and 4 matches against top 6 opposition.....with an eye on the Euro League we can hope they progress to the next round.....Spurs can be caught.
Everton
Man Utd V Everton
Norwich V Everton
Everton V Reading
Arsenal V Everton
Everton V Man City
Everton V Stoke
Tottenham V Everton
Everton V QPR
Sunderland V Everton
Everton V Fulham
Liverpool V Everton
Everton V West Ham
Chelsea V Everton
So we have 5 games against the top 6 and 1 against Liverpool......tough yes, BUT, out of these teams we have only been bettered by Chelsea where we were the better team, we've beaten United and Spurs and drew with Arsenal, City and the RS....we can take points off all of these teams.
Arsenal
Sunderland V Arsenal
Arsenal V Aston Villa
Tottenham V Arsenal
Swansea V Arsenal
Arsenal V Everton
Arsenal V Reading
West Brom V Arsenal
Arsenal V Norwich
Fulham V Arsenal
Arsenal V Man Utd
QPR V Arsenal
Arsenal V Wigan
Newcastle V Arsenal
So Arsenal seem to have an easier run in playing the top 6 only 3 times, however again, they are competing in 3 competitions and have tough derbies and away games. We also still have a slender lead over them meaning that they will have to better us by one result during the run in.
and finally.......( cos let's face it I've went on for a while now and Swansea have no chance)
Liverpool
Liverpool V West Brom
Liverpool V Swansea
Wigan V Liverpool
Liverpool V Tottenham
Southampton V Liverpool
Aston Villa V Liverpool
Liverpool V West Ham
Reading V Liverpool
Liverpool V Chelsea
Newcastle V Liverpool
Liverpool V Everton
Fulham V Liverpool
Liverpool V QPR
So clearly the RS have the easiest run-in on paper with only 3 games against the top 6, although in saying that they haven't beaten any of the top ten this season....they are still in Europe and have to go to Russia, fingers crossed they continue to win in Europe. We're also 6 points to the good on them meaning they have to better us by three results in the remaining including at least 2 wins more than us....they haven't done it all season, what's to say they'll do it now.
So to sign off, this is for all the doomsdayers and negative nellys who say we're not firing, that we're going to get caught.....I say this..... we will Qualify for Europe definitely with a fantastic chance of Champions League.
I believe we will get top 4 and I'll be right behind us all the way - I hope you will be doing the same.
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Come on, take a reality pill, we will lose at Old Trafford on Saturday, RS will get three points as will Spurs then we are one defeat away from being overtaken by the RS who let's face it, are coming into form with Sturridge on board. -
Posts: 1,245February 5escla said:
Come on, take a reality pill, we will lose at Old Trafford on Saturday, RS will get three points as will Spurs then we are one defeat away from being overtaken by the RS who let's face it, are coming into form with Sturridge on board.-----------------
You sure you're not a "closet red"? -
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Posts: 2,001February 5TonyTony said:
tbh Escla, if we turn up at Old Trafford on Saturday then we should win it
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Also LiverSH*te will only draw against West Brom mark my words lid. -
Posts: 4,630February 5escla said:
Come on, take a reality pill, we will lose at Old Trafford on Saturday, RS will get three points as will Spurs then we are one defeat away from being overtaken by the RS who let's face it, are coming into form with Sturridge on board.-----------------
What a pointless post...I fully expect us to lose a game or two in the final run just as I expect ALL of the other teams mentioned to lose games also.
I think you're thw onw who needs to take the reality pill or better still a positivity pill!!! -
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Posts: 2,450February 5 At least my pointless post took only a minute to tap out unlike yours, such a waste of time !
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