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David Moyes admits Everton 'concern'
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Posts: 3,622February 2 Stunning from Moyes and totally agree with the first line... Lets be positive yes and lets work for it yes, but we all need to be realistic. My opinion we are a top 6 club without a doubt, more than that, NO! Personally i think this could be his last season, or maximum the next, my opinion!!!"Maybe where Everton finish is where Everton are as a club. I spoke about the need to get off to a better start and we've done that. The top clubs have that ability to maintain it over an entire season, but perhaps we don't. One thing I would say, though, is that we've shown incredible consistency in our results. We don't lose too many even if we are not quite there. There is disappointment [over transfers] but it doesn't alter how this team has been playing and what this team has been doing."Full interview just incase some knowitalls on here try to be cocky
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Posts: 3,433February 2 The end is nigh alright!
As much as I'd not like to see him go, for the sake of the club; in a morbid kind if way I'd like to see the kids implode and have to go through the **** I had to. Although I can see many of them abandoning the club.
We have **** but ourselves without a decent manager. We don't have the finances to buy the players to compete at the level some expect us to be at, never mind enough to build a stadium. We were relegation fodder prior to Moyes, what makes anyone think it will be any different once he's gone?
It's not been a good night.
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Posts: 3,433February 2 Anyone remember one of Villa's hey days in the 90's with John Gregory? They were well up where we are now but apparently he wasn't good enough, and even with a billionaire owner, look at them now. We've swapped places.
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Posts: 2,162February 2 Come on Moyes, we're behind you 100 %. And we know what you're trying to achieve! :-)
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Posts: 75February 2 We all need to be realistic - toset i believe are the key words -
that is exactly the question Mr Moyes is asking - "With its current personell and finances - has Everton hit the ceiling of our potential ?"If nothing changes will we ever do better than 5th -9th in the league ?
i tend to agree that we have done the best we could with what we have .
The obvious conclusion is that if Everton wants to go to the next level something in our present setup needs tot change - alternatively if nothing changes and we accept that then we must stop moaning and start celebrating our current position as a top 6\7 PL side - doing as best we could -
Posts: 284February 2 I believe we tried he says......tried the last day of the window thats not good enough bill the window is open all month........pullin the wool over our eyes me thinks
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Posts: 3,622February 2We all need to be realistic - toset i believe are the key words -
that is exactly the question Mr Moyes is asking - "With its current personell and finances - has Everton hit the ceiling of our potential ?"If nothing changes will we ever do better than 5th -9th in the league ?
i tend to agree that we have done the best we could with what we have .
The obvious conclusion is that if Everton wants to go to the next level something in our present setup needs tot change - alternatively if nothing changes and we accept that then we must stop moaning and start celebrating our current position as a top 6\7 PL side - doing as best we could-----------------
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Posts: 279February 2 i honestly beleive that moyes has gone as far as he can with everton. i don't think he can take us any further. he probably realises this himself and is considering a fresh challenge
Transforming the club from a side fighting relegation to a side fighting for a place in europe most seasons on a very tight budget is an incredible acheivement. transforming the squad from a squad of mainly old and bad players to a squad of mainly young and quality players, on a tight budget, is an incredible achievement. Although i don't agree that Everton's style of play is attractive i do agree it has improved since david moyes took over. And to do that with such a small squad is definately an achievement. Finishing 5th and 6th most seasons, playing in an f.a cup final and qualifying for the champions league, on a tight budget is also an incredible achievement.
but i'm afraid that's as far as David Moyes can take us (with or without money). even if you gave david moyes 50 million to spend im certain that he would NOT be able to take us to the next level i.e win a trohpy, become a top 4 side, play exciting football.
David Moyes, despite all of his qualitys, has a lot of major flaws too. flaws that would prevent him being able to manage a top 4 side. When it comes to tactics, team selection and substitutions David Moyes is seriously flawed. and i mean seriously. it those departments i'd even go as far as to say he is championships level. that's how bad he is. he really is clueless and i mean that. all this talk of him managing abroad in the future like steve mclaren is absolute nonsense. football abroad is not like the premier league. it's all about tactics and that's where Moyes is flawed. Style of football too i'd say David Moyes is seriously flawed. And i'd also say Moyes lacks the ability to be daring and take risks. bro and fulham got to the final of the europa league/eufa cup through simply being willing to take risks and go for it. Everton are a lot better than boro and fulham but we couldn't do what those 2 teams did simply because we we're unwilling to go go for it. and i don't think moyes be able to manage the really top players. the type of players you need in order be finsih in the top 4 every season and play entertaining football. i beleive that if moyes left everton for a bigger job such as the chelsea job then he would be found out very quickly. he would be out of his detph and be completely clueless. i predict he would be sacked within 6 months and lose the respect that everybody has for him right now. then he would gained that respect back by taking over a club like atson villa and doing exactly what he did with everton for villa. or he would go to celtic and be very sucessful in scotland or maybe even take over as the scottish national team coach and perform miracles for them by qualifying for major tournaments through shere hard work, discipline and spirit.
if everton want to go to the next level they not only need a new manager but also a new chairman. david moyes can't take us to the next level with or without money. and a new manager wont be able to take us to the next level without money. so everton have a decision to make:
1)stick with moyes and continue to finish top 6 at best, get to a cup final, play decent football and guarantee a place in the premier league pretty much forever
2)get a new manager, spend some money, take the risk of ending up like leeds and getting relegated
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Posts: 24,743February 2 imo Moyes is using the reverse psychology tactic here, he is askign the question 'is this as far as Everton can go'.....to push the players on further and really strive to get top 4.......you think the players are not going to read that interview and think to themselves 'we are better than that, we can definitely finish higher than where we are'???Moyes knows his players better than anyone, and i'm pretty sure this is another 'mind' tactic by him to get that little bit extra out of the players in our push to get into the champions league.Its perspective at the end of the day, and Moyes is too smart to come out in an interview and say something like that with out it having a positive OR opposite affect to how people are reading it and taking it.The guy is only trying to squeeze that bit more out of the players in the last 1/3 of the season that's all.IMWT, COYB!
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Posts: 24,743February 2david14 said:
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I honestly think your head is full of magic. -
Posts: 3,455February 2sambo applecart said:
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agreed. That's one of the worst pieces of drivel I've ever read on here -
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Posts: 9,113February 2Beano said:
agreed. That's one of the worst pieces of drivel I've ever read on here
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Fumin here like
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Posts: 4,765February 2 I don't think we will finish 4th this season, but it is not impossible, and if he stopped talking about being realistic and getting to 40 points, perhaps we could do better.
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Posts: 230February 2 Theres been loads of games where points have been dropped wen t game should have been put to bed but even ignorin all of them, if wed hung on for a draw in the chelsea game we could be 5 hours away from third.
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Posts: 3,622February 2 Its never impossible! We as a group on here support an amazing traditional club...We will fight for every point, i do believe this.... If we get 4th it will make all the difference to our debt and transfer funds, its a must really
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Posts: 3,622February 2sambo applecart said:
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Agreed Sambo.... I think this too........But, we must keep everyone fit! Cotton wool time me thinks lid hahahah -
Posts: 1,206February 2 I don't believe for a second we can't get better, our squad does every year.
Unfortunately we need to sell our most expensive players and replace with younger quality for half the price. And this is what moyes does very well however begrudgingly.
When you look about at how long managers last I think David will look his everton job in a good light.
Imagine if he took over Chelsea he would be given more time than most new managers but a trophyless season would probably put him in last chance saloon. Risky
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