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Posts: 12January 7 I’ve been here and TW for some time now and it seems that there´s always a lot of moaning and grumping about all Everton related stuff.
Evertonians should, in my humble opinion, stop calling names to people, names like “Liar” “Greedy” or any other who attempts at someone´s honor, never mind one of us.
Over the last few years I have been seriously concerned about EFC´s future, and the main question to me about the future of Everton is Goodison Park.
We need a new stadium, and fast, to face the demands of football nowadays, and even then we could still be a club who competes to stay in the premiership.
In a couple of minutes I could give you the names of a dozen stadiums, in the UK, that were built since the Everton´s saga for a new football ground started.
I´m not a wealthy person, but I’m willing to put my money where my mouth is and ask you: are you capable of doing so too??
As you know, or should know, Everton has season ticket prices between £443 and £672 for the 12-13 campaign, Liverpool has their own between £725 and £780 and Fulham yeah FULHAM! Has ticket prices between £449 and £959; and we will all agree that they have a shitty ground!!!.
It gets worse: Norwich has their tickets between £547 and £608, which makes their cheapest ticket our average one, Q.P.R have tickets between £499 and £949 against our £672, Reading £525-£595 and West Ham £600-£850 just watch it here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/may/22/premier-league-ticket-prices-2012-13
Everton has, according to their annual financial accounts, revenue in match attendances and catering of 17 703M, you can see: http://www.toffeeweb.com/season/12-13/news/JB-2012EvertonAccounts.pdf.
So what can be done and what the hell has this to do with the new stadium?
Simple, the Irish rugby association has put a 10 year ticket buying scheme to help pay for the new AVIVA stadium in Dublin, Everton should consider this as an option to finance the new stadium , just look at http://www.irishrugby.ie/tickets/tenyeartickets.php.
Of course that not all the Everton season ticket holders could afford this, who could spend £4430? Even if they could watch their team, with world class players, play in a new world class stadium for the next ten years? Or five? at £2215 it seems there´s always a way to do biz with the truthful and faithful fan isn´t it?
I believe a few could though, and the club could sort it out with a bank, as commercial partner, in some kind of fan package that would allow people to pay for it in installments, with them lending the money to the club in advance, or simply mortgage on the season tickets. Everton FC could still raise season tickets, with the fans paying the update margin annually, only to allow the club to deal with inflation costs, which all companies have.
Hard to the fan? Yes!! Without a doubt! But it has been hard to the club hasn´t it? And you won´t be paying it twice, cause we will be paying for the entertainment and for the seat.
I can´t honestly say that this would get Everton 170M, but it would help the club a lot, the club could still sell their season or match day tickets, to those who wouldn´t buy the ten year ticket, but they can and should rise them to at least the prices of our neighbors, which would bring us 40.9 in gate receipts, if we get the same attendances they had in the 2011-2012 season with their ticket prices being the one´s mentioned above. I reckon these are rough numbers but there´s a 23M difference, 92M in a 4 year time, isn´t this worth thinking about??? That excess would allow us to pay the new stadium, wouldn´t it??
Am I being greedy?? Scalping evertonians? Well the kopites pay for it, are we less of a man? Are we worthy 20 of them? Or not? Just go to: http://swissramble.blogspot.pt/2012/05/liverpool-keep-car-running.html to check it out.
The club could still get some money from naming rights on their new stadium, they could sell the naming rights of the stands, or name the seats of the ten year ticket fan, or use the new TV deal to finance the building of the stadium, Everton FC doesn´t need to have the money to build the new stadium, they just have to sort ways to pay it!
Hopefully with the new TV deal, we might have something to offer in order to finance it, otherwise no one in the world would step up to gives us the money, and if we can´t get it elsewhere we have to start thinking about getting it ourselves.
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Posts: 7,485January 7 Spoken like a true blue, but i'll wait for the film to come out before i read all that.........n it was all written during a game !!!!!
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Posts: 930January 7 Makes sense lip only if ALL the season ticket holders pay.
If that did happen,our annual revenue would be affected.
Not blowin' it out the water but its not black & white.
Not sure if we've already mortgaged off season ticket sales to Barcleys. -
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Posts: 7,485January 7 Hey, ya better get used to the word banter like, but seriously i didnt understand what you wrote.........
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Posts: 4,703January 7 http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?um=1&hl=en&sa=N&tbo=d&biw=1024&bih=677&tbm=isch&tbnid=QF6BcFnCG0mCpM:&imgrefurl=http://www.head-fi.org/t/574126/the-zo2-has-landed/165&docid=C5mO1BPJWWjO7M&imgurl=
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Posts: 5,114January 7brboy1 said:
Makes sense lip only if ALL the season ticket holders pay.
If that did happen,our annual revenue would be affected.
Not blowin' it out the water but its not black & white.
Not sure if we've already mortgaged off season ticket sales to Barcleys.-----------------
was thinking same myself no season ticket sales for 10 years and all revenue put into a new stadium, i think we got loans on our tv money and thats why we not spending anything last few years , get a nice new stadium and have no money to put into getting a decent side together to play in it, its good idea if you got good revenue coming in from elsewere and not got any debt, but its just like robbing peter to pay paul or robbing the supporters to pay bill and co -
Posts: 2,823January 7Lip said:
I’ve been here and TW for some time now and it seems that there´s always a lot of moaning and grumping about all Everton related stuff.
Evertonians should, in my humble opinion, stop calling names to people, names like “Liar” “Greedy” or any other who attempts at someone´s honor, never mind one of us.
Over the last few years I have been seriously concerned about EFC´s future, and the main question to me about the future of Everton is Goodison Park.
We need a new stadium, and fast, to face the demands of football nowadays, and even then we could still be a club who competes to stay in the premiership.
In a couple of minutes I could give you the names of a dozen stadiums, in the UK, that were built since the Everton´s saga for a new football ground started.
I´m not a wealthy person, but I’m willing to put my money where my mouth is and ask you: are you capable of doing so too??
As you know, or should know, Everton has season ticket prices between £443 and £672 for the 12-13 campaign, Liverpool has their own between £725 and £780 and Fulham yeah FULHAM! Has ticket prices between £449 and £959; and we will all agree that they have a shitty ground!!!.
It gets worse: Norwich has their tickets between £547 and £608, which makes their cheapest ticket our average one, Q.P.R have tickets between £499 and £949 against our £672, Reading £525-£595 and West Ham £600-£850 just watch it here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/may/22/premier-league-ticket-prices-2012-13
Everton has, according to their annual financial accounts, revenue in match attendances and catering of 17 703M, you can see: http://www.toffeeweb.com/season/12-13/news/JB-2012EvertonAccounts.pdf.
So what can be done and what the hell has this to do with the new stadium?
Simple, the Irish rugby association has put a 10 year ticket buying scheme to help pay for the new AVIVA stadium in Dublin, Everton should consider this as an option to finance the new stadium , just look at http://www.irishrugby.ie/tickets/tenyeartickets.php.
Of course that not all the Everton season ticket holders could afford this, who could spend £4430? Even if they could watch their team, with world class players, play in a new world class stadium for the next ten years? Or five? at £2215 it seems there´s always a way to do biz with the truthful and faithful fan isn´t it?
I believe a few could though, and the club could sort it out with a bank, as commercial partner, in some kind of fan package that would allow people to pay for it in installments, with them lending the money to the club in advance, or simply mortgage on the season tickets. Everton FC could still raise season tickets, with the fans paying the update margin annually, only to allow the club to deal with inflation costs, which all companies have.
Hard to the fan? Yes!! Without a doubt! But it has been hard to the club hasn´t it? And you won´t be paying it twice, cause we will be paying for the entertainment and for the seat.
I can´t honestly say that this would get Everton 170M, but it would help the club a lot, the club could still sell their season or match day tickets, to those who wouldn´t buy the ten year ticket, but they can and should rise them to at least the prices of our neighbors, which would bring us 40.9 in gate receipts, if we get the same attendances they had in the 2011-2012 season with their ticket prices being the one´s mentioned above. I reckon these are rough numbers but there´s a 23M difference, 92M in a 4 year time, isn´t this worth thinking about??? That excess would allow us to pay the new stadium, wouldn´t it??
Am I being greedy?? Scalping evertonians? Well the kopites pay for it, are we less of a man? Are we worthy 20 of them? Or not? Just go to: http://swissramble.blogspot.pt/2012/05/liverpool-keep-car-running.html to check it out.
The club could still get some money from naming rights on their new stadium, they could sell the naming rights of the stands, or name the seats of the ten year ticket fan, or use the new TV deal to finance the building of the stadium, Everton FC doesn´t need to have the money to build the new stadium, they just have to sort ways to pay it!
Hopefully with the new TV deal, we might have something to offer in order to finance it, otherwise no one in the world would step up to gives us the money, and if we can´t get it elsewhere we have to start thinking about getting it ourselves.-----------------
Do one yer fat greedy lying spoon
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Posts: 726January 7zagan said:
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?um=1&hl=en&sa=N&tbo=d&biw=1024&bih=677&tbm=isch&tbnid=QF6BcFnCG0mCpM:&imgrefurl=http://www.head-fi.org/t/574126/the-zo2-has-landed/165&docid=C5mO1BPJWWjO7M&imgurl=
&w=478&h=357&ei=W0DrUOzqF42U0QXBiID4Aw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=541&vpy=234&dur=315&hovh=194&hovw=260&tx=115&ty=92&sig=113485447124812806312&page=3&tbnh=140&tbnw=188&start=49&ndsp=29&ved=1t:429,r:76,s:0,i:322-----------------
you're a failure
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Posts: 12January 7brboy1 said:
Makes sense lip only if ALL the season ticket holders pay.
If that did happen,our annual revenue would be affected.
Not blowin' it out the water but its not black & white.
Not sure if we've already mortgaged off season ticket sales to Barcleys.-----------------
I´m not saying all season ticket holders should pay, it´s just an idea, one among other possibilities. annual revenue might not be affected, as we would develop other commercial revenues with a new stadium like marketing, commercial etc and improve largely our chances of investment, or even a new buyer. those who don´t help the club should pay more for tickets, alot more if we want to move to a new ground. they should pay at least the same as the rs pay for them tickets. It´s just an idea, and i´m happy to give it.
we could still operate with our current revenue, and drove these"extra" funds to the new stadium, we just need to keep moyes and his magic for another 10 years.
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