sambo applecart

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January 4

EvertonfcNSNO said:

quite a few ... in the recent games besides chelsea where he played the opposite side he comes on to play there

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agaisnt Chelsea, he looked woeful, he didnt get chance to get a foot old on the game, b'cos as soon as we made our substitutions Chelsea started playing a pressure game, giving the likes of Barkley, Oviedo, Vellios etc no time on the ball......it was impossible for anyone to judge any of the subs performances this game and take it on face value.....let alone say he should be playing down the right hand side......

sambo applecart

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January 4

EvertonfcNSNO said:

feel like you missed my point there ... and you have attacked and defended the kid in the same sentence ... i dont base my player ratings on one game though if naismith had a "woeful" game against chelsea and that was all i saw of him i wouldnt have been writing him off but i have seen every game this season and so feel as though on an aggregate can reasonably judge both players merits to play wide right

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so on that basis of evidence, i wonder why Mr Moyes does not start Oviedo on the right?? I could explain it to you, but i don;t feel as though you will grasp it......

ten-pin-bowling

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January 4 Granted, he's playing out of position. He's certainly not a winger and never ever will be. He's not skillful, he's got next to no pace. In opportunities when he's playing on the wing and we have the ball in a decent area he should be busting a gut to run down that wing and threaten the opposition defence and he just jogs. Not the sign of a man who gives 100%. He loses the ball quite easily sometimes. Not saying he won't get better because Scotland's nothing like England but at the moment why he gets into our first 11 ahead of Oviedo is beyond me. They're both lightweight like but Oviedo has a bit more skill and is a bit faster, seems more driven to do well as well. It's certainly no coincidence that on Wednesday as soon as he came off we scored. Not using him as a scapegoat either because as I say he can do better and he knows he can, just I've seen nothing about him that excites me yet. While he wears Blue I'll keep supporting him though.

sambo applecart

Posts: 24,039

January 4

EvertonfcNSNO said:

wow ... god forbid i have a different opinion to moyes ... please explain o wise one ... my insolent pea sized mind will try to wrap itself around the gold and rainbows comin from your mouth

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Because he obviously knows more and understands more about where/why and how people should be playing in certain positions! ;)

sambo applecart

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January 4

EvertonfcNSNO said:

if you say so haha

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it took a while but i was always confident we would get there :)

sambo applecart

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January 4 exactly pal :)

EvertonfcNSNO

Posts: 1,093

January 4

koolhandluke8 said:

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well no if you read what i said it was oviedo who i felt had the technical ability to play across the att mid 3 and you seem to suggest that people who get serious injuries will always come back to be as good and if we are talking about how he is an out and out striker then i will point to his tally in the spl which was 28 in 98 games ... hardly good enough for a player playing in one of the top sides in a lower level league

EvertonfcNSNO

Posts: 1,093

January 4

koolhandluke8 said:

well no if you read what i said it was oviedo who i felt had the technical ability to play across the att mid 3 and you seem to suggest that people who get serious injuries will always come back to be as good and if we are talking about how he is an out and out striker then i will point to his tally in the spl which was 28 in 98 games ... hardly good enough for a player playing in one of the top sides in a lower level league

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where did i suggest this ? what i stated was..."Also...you've chosen to forget he's been seriously injured for 2 years....to return ..as you say in the premier league..is a big step form the SPL"

AND OUT INJURED FOR 2 YEARS....................................

i'd take 28 from 98 right now...who was our last striker with that rate ?

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where did i suggest that you definitely suggested that i said its seems as if meaning the wording youve chosen and the lack of a qualifying statement leads one to believe that is what you meant ... also we've seen felli and jelli do that just recently and we had the yak and even aj had a 1 percentile lower strike rate

Smigone

Posts: 2,714

January 4

well no if you read what i said it was oviedo who i felt had the technical ability to play across the att mid 3 and you seem to suggest that people who get serious injuries will always come back to be as good and if we are talking about how he is an out and out striker then i will point to his tally in the spl which was 28 in 98 games ... hardly good enough for a player playing in one of the top sides in a lower level league

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where did i suggest this ? what i stated was..."Also...you've chosen to forget he's been seriously injured for 2 years....to return ..as you say in the premier league..is a big step form the SPL"

AND OUT INJURED FOR 2 YEARS....................................

i'd take 28 from 98 right now...who was our last striker with that rate ?

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The 'Chebe has 23 from 91, close enough like   ;)

koolhandluke8

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January 4 but not quite..although he has had 4 years out injured,,,(hehe)