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Just watching 9/11 state of emergency, and even 11 years on......
  • Deus Ex Machina
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    sambo applecart said:

    Of course mate, i actually like your out look on life, i see your point of view and perspective, if on occasion i find it a little too passive.


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    I suppose it does come across as passivity on occasion. 

    To quote JFK:
    "The problems of the world cannot possibly be solved by skeptics or cynics whose horizons are limited by the obvious realities. We need men who can dream of things that never were."

    We've spent thousands of years striving and fighting, how about trying something, different! 
  • sambo applecart
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    blue32years said:

    Smart guy ??? Ha ha f*ck off


    I don't need to watch some balls Youtube video. I've read and watched enough to make the opinion that there was no conspiracy.

    Like there was no pearl harbour conspiracy
    No JFK one
    No area 51 one


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    Princess Di was bumped off. Mate you dont have to believe them all, but, there's powers that gone on in this world that we dont see, hear about, or have no evidence are there, but they are......the whole world is one big secret matey :)
  • sambo applecart
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    Deus Ex Machina said:

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    The funny thing is DEux, i get the impression your hard as nails, dont know why, but i sense it, but you try and keep it locked away.......
  • Deus Ex Machina
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    diggernaut said:

    4,000 years o' human endeavour an' the bes' they can come up is (parlm) democracy.

    Yer can be''er this in a hear' beat?

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    Less than a heart beat tbh. As i said, i've been thinking on this since i was a child. Democracy has a place, but not everyone can have a say on everything.
  • Beano
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    Deus Ex Machina said:

    Less than a heart beat tbh. As i said, i've been thinking on this since i was a child. Democracy has a place, but not everyone can have a say on everything.


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    Out with it.
    What's your improvement on democracy?
    I'm intrigued!
  • Deus Ex Machina
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    sambo applecart said:

    The funny thing is DEux, i get the impression your hard as nails, dont know why, but i sense it, but you try and keep it locked away.......


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    Being hard is meaningless to me mate, i never give it thought tbh. There are very few things being hard is useful for, helping people in trouble, protecting yourself. I find a lot of people use it to intimidate and manipulate, both abhorrent.  
  • Jxg
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    blue32years said:

    Smart guy ??? Ha ha f*ck off


    I don't need to watch some balls Youtube video. I've read and watched enough to make the opinion that there was no conspiracy.

    Like there was no pearl harbour conspiracy
    No JFK one
    No area 51 one


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    Dunno if you've studied history in-depth, but a lot of things were conspiracies. The government has been doing it for hundreds of years, going all the way back to the framing of Catholics. They told the public that priests were selling fake "Holy goods" in order to sway the opinion on them so they could be targeted.

    Pearl Harbor was an attack that was permitted by the United States government to allow them to enter the war.

    I am unsure about JFK.

    Area 51 is real. The United States government admitted to its existence (but not its purpose). You cannot find it on Google Earth; the image of where it should be is blurred out.
  • Deus Ex Machina
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    Beano said:

    Out with it.
    What's your improvement on democracy?
    I'm intrigued!


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    It's not a forum post mate, it's a book. But not, i repeat not, a bible! 
  • diggernaut
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    Deus Ex Machina said:

    Less than a heart beat tbh. As i said, i've been thinking on this since i was a child. Democracy has a place, but not everyone can have a say on everything.


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    since yer were a child? yer were thinkin o' merits o' democracy?
    an yer came up with.........everyone can't 'ave a say on everything...no answer t' tha
  • blue32years
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    Jxg said:

    Dunno if you've studied history in-depth, but a lot of things were conspiracies. The government has been doing it for hundreds of years, going all the way back to the framing of Catholics. They told the public that priests were selling fake "Holy goods" in order to sway the opinion on them so they could be targeted.

    Pearl Harbor was an attack that was permitted by the United States government to allow them to enter the war.

    I am unsure about JFK.

    Area 51 is real. The United States government admitted to its existence (but not its purpose). You cannot find it on Google Earth; the image of where it should be is blurred out.


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    Done history very in-depth , which is why I know the pearl harbour conspiracy is balls. Read respected historians and accounts from the time by people that were neither pro or anti FDR and they state he never knew. I'm yet to see any actual proof other that hearsay that he knew.

    It's made up


    I know there's been alot of conspiracies. The titanic one is an interesting one.

    With regards to JFK I'll be honest I believed it was a conspiracy initially but then saw a documentary over 4 hours that blew it out the water.
  • mkinla
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    blue32years said:

    Done history very in-depth , which is why I know the pearl harbour conspiracy is balls. Read respected historians and accounts from the time by people that were neither pro or anti FDR and they state he never knew. I'm yet to see any actual proof other that hearsay that he knew.

    It's made up


    I know there's been alot of conspiracies. The titanic one is an interesting one.

    With regards to JFK I'll be honest I believed it was a conspiracy initially but then saw a documentary over 4 hours that blew it out the water.


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    Who are these Historians you keep mentioning?  Put up, or shut up
  • sambo applecart
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    Deus Ex Machina said:

    Being hard is meaningless to me mate, i never give it thought tbh. There are very few things being hard is useful for, helping people in trouble, protecting yourself. I find a lot of people use it to intimidate and manipulate, both abhorrent.  


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    So its not meaningless then mate, it has its uses :)

    BTW, it doesn't matter to me either, i was just saying that i sense a bit of edginess in you that is all :)
  • Beano
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    blue32years said:

    Done history very in-depth , which is why I know the pearl harbour conspiracy is balls. Read respected historians and accounts from the time by people that were neither pro or anti FDR and they state he never knew. I'm yet to see any actual proof other that hearsay that he knew.

    It's made up


    I know there's been alot of conspiracies. The titanic one is an interesting one.

    With regards to JFK I'll be honest I believed it was a conspiracy initially but then saw a documentary over 4 hours that blew it out the water.


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    I wouldn't really allow myself to be swayed by one documentary to that extent to be honest. I've said this on here before but the RFK murder is actually much more interesting than the JFK one. But it doesn't get the same attention cos he wasn't president (yet). It also opens questions about the JFK murder.

    See the BBC documentary "RFK Must Die". It's on YouTube.
  • blue32years
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    mkinla said:

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    Put one in the other thread

    I'll reel some more off if you like buy I doubt you'll read them


    Where's your evidence other than YouTube yer lying sack of 5 h1t ?
  • blue32years
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    Beano said:

    I wouldn't really allow myself to be swayed by one documentary to that extent to be honest. I've said this on here before but the RFK murder is actually much more interesting than the JFK one. But it doesn't get the same attention cos he wasn't president (yet). It also opens questions about the JFK murder.

    See the BBC documentary "RFK Must Die". It's on YouTube.


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    Remember you mentioning that

    I agreed at the time. Definately something dodgy about the RFK assassination
  • Jxg
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    blue32years said:

    Done history very in-depth , which is why I know the pearl harbour conspiracy is balls. Read respected historians and accounts from the time by people that were neither pro or anti FDR and they state he never knew. I'm yet to see any actual proof other that hearsay that he knew.

    It's made up


    I know there's been alot of conspiracies. The titanic one is an interesting one.

    With regards to JFK I'll be honest I believed it was a conspiracy initially but then saw a documentary over 4 hours that blew it out the water.


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    Name some respected historians, then.

    Area 51 is real, so why shouldn't anything else be?
  • Deus Ex Machina
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    diggernaut said:

    since yer were a child? yer were thinkin o' merits o' democracy?

    an yer came up with.........everyone can't 'ave a say on everything...no answer t' tha

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    I was violently abused as a kid, i've never really been a child, please try and understand how and why i would have thought in this way, even at such an age. 

    As i said to Beano, it's not something to be explained on a forum, it's a book.

  • blue32years
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    Gordon W prange
    Have a look at west wind clear
    Larry jewell




    I'm not actually seeing any proof to suggest its fact it was a conspiracy. Just yes it was.

    Where's the evidence ?
  • sambo applecart
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    blue32years said:

    Gordon W prange
    Have a look at west wind clear
    Larry jewell




    I'm not actually seeing any proof to suggest its fact it was a conspiracy. Just yes it was.

    Where's the evidence ?


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    The whole world is a conspiracy mate, there is people watching us right now.......send me a text and say something like 'Obama gets it tomorrow & the U'S BIG too' and our houses will be raided before dawn.
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