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Is Moyes a football genius?
  • Pearse
    Posts: 558
    I remember before holding midfielders and 4-5-1 formation became big in the Premier League, Moyes decided to buy Carsley to play that new role and only played one up front which for one season worked really well and got us to 4th. And then Chelsea got Makalele and played a similar formation which proved a success for them. And now watching Spain do so well without a striker just reminds me of us playing a lot of matches with Cahill in that Fabrages role. Ok, that didn't work as well but maybe Moyes has these revolutionary ideas but can't fulfill them as he is restricted with the personnel and funds at the club. I really don't want Moyes to leave us before he gets the proper investment he deserves so as to see what he can actually do!
  • 11blue
    Posts: 4,685
    Walter Smith bought Lee Carsley, so Walter is the football genius, not Moyes  :-D
  • Galway Blue Nose
    Posts: 461
    Pearse said:

    I remember before holding midfielders and 4-5-1 formation became big in the Premier League, Moyes decided to buy Carsley to play that new role and only played one up front which for one season worked really well and got us to 4th. And then Chelsea got Makalele and played a similar formation which proved a success for them. And now watching Spain do so well without a striker just reminds me of us playing a lot of matches with Cahill in that Fabrages role. Ok, that didn't work as well but maybe Moyes has these revolutionary ideas but can't fulfill them as he is restricted with the personnel and funds at the club. I really don't want Moyes to leave us before he gets the proper investment he deserves so as to see what he can actually do!


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    Moyse has not always spent big money wisely. Great manager at finding raw talent and developing it not so sure I would trust him with a transfer kitty of €30 million plus though.
  • OldGoldenVision
    Posts: 19,516
    ahem... thats it gbn... months without a word??? how r yer?
  • Galway Blue Nose
    Posts: 461
    OldGoldenVision said:

    ahem... thats it gbn... months without a word??? how r yer?


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    Mad with work at the min. Keep an eye on the place though and have to say I nearly broke my **** laughing with the Fizz and Tony wind up. Have you been to Kerry lately
  • OldGoldenVision
    Posts: 19,516
    lol... yeah was over there a couple a weeks ago... nice time... weather was sheet...
  • Galway Blue Nose
    Posts: 461
    Weather still crap. Volvo Ocean race in town for the next week so plenty of beers planned, could result in a few raves on here. :-D
  • OldGoldenVision
    Posts: 19,516
    superb!!! nice one kidda. ocean race tho whats that like?
  • Galway Blue Nose
    Posts: 461
    Yachts travel around the globe in a race. Finish line is in Galway this year.
  • OldGoldenVision
    Posts: 19,516
    got yer... so like yer say... p.iss up! enjoy!
  • Beano
    Posts: 3,303
    It didn't really take a genius to figure out that a midfield consisting of 4 out of Watson, Kilbane, Carsley, Gravesen, Li Tie and Gemmill would get over-run my most Premier League opponents!
  • 1ceablue
    Posts: 3,253
    He must be a genius, he's been here 10 years having earned about £30+M and we still haven't won anything........
  • david14
    Posts: 279
    i think you'll find that moyes used to play carsely on the right wing at first and walter smith actually signed him anyway not moyes.  and bolton, under sam alladyce,  were the first english team to used the 4 5 1 system years before moyes used it. 

    moyes was forced into the 4 5 1 system because he couldn't fit tim cahill into the team so he decided to copy bolton wanderers
  • OldGoldenVision
    Posts: 19,516
    Marcus Bent played up top by himself long before Moyes switched to Cahill up top... 
  • Daive521
    Posts: 2,329
    We played without a striker for quite some time? :-j
  • Pearse
    Posts: 558
    Fair points...
  • freddiestar1205466
    Posts: 12
    It could be argued that Howard Kendal first played one up front with Gary Linaker.....well sort of !!!..... Gary got top scorer Everton won nothing... we were better with Andy Gray.
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