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Royal Ascot
  • AndyForsyth
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    Starts next week, and I am well and truly looking forward to it. Anyone started looking at the cards/form?? Anything caught your eye??
  • sambo applecart
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    yeah, i think if it keeps raining like this and the ground is tacky, i'd be happy to take black caviar on at the prices. wortha punt that she wont like it. 
  • AndyForsyth
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    I think the Diamond Jubilee stakes is probably the one race I'd be happy to not have a bet on and just watch that classy mare slam the field!  However, I've already had a bet on it haha, I did Black Caviar and Frankel in a double. Still a rubbish price but ho hum. I think with those two, I'm guaranteed at least two winners at the meeting, which I'd be happy with.
  • sambo applecart
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    AndyForsyth said:

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    i think your right mate :)


    Just from a work perspective that i take that view.


    For the good of racing, i hope they both win, and win will :)
  • blue32years
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    You think them 2 will ever go up against eachother ?
  • sambo applecart
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    blue32years said:

    You think them 2 will ever go up against eachother ?


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    No mate. 

    They are both campaigned at different distances, Frankel will i think eventually be winning over 1m 2f where as Black Caviar is a sprinter.

    On the numbers though, Black Caviar has a bit to find with Frankel if that puts it in perspective.
  • AndyForsyth
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    I'd love to see them go at it, but like Sambo says, campaigned at different distances which makes it tough. Frankel's a 1-miler, I think BC is a 5-6f runner.... I would have thought though that 7f would be a good compromise but the trainers/owners know best.
  • sambo applecart
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    AndyForsyth said:

    I'd love to see them go at it, but like Sambo says, campaigned at different distances which makes it tough. Frankel's a 1-miler, I think BC is a 5-6f runner.... I would have thought though that 7f would be a good compromise but the trainers/owners know best.


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    good shout that mate!
  • blue32years
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    Nothing to do with neither will chance it on the basis of reputation , fees etc ?
    Like boxers who avoid eachother



    Or is that my cynical side ?
  • sambo applecart
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    blue32years said:

    Nothing to do with neither will chance it on the basis of reputation , fees etc ?
    Like boxers who avoid eachother



    Or is that my cynical side ?


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    dont think it would matter so much tbh mate cos Black Caviar is a mare and Frankel a horse. (Colt)


    Broodmares are not worth anywhere near as much as stallions as they can only have maybe 10 off spring (give or take) where as a stallion could maybe cover 20,30,40 or maybe more mares in a season. At upwards to as much as 100k. So from the reputation side of things, if they were both colts then yes your cynical side would be right, as they arn't, not sure it matters really :)
  • AndyForsyth
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    It all kicks off tomorrow..... Anyone seen anything of interest??? Sambo, looking in your direction sonny!
  • sambo applecart
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    yes mate, i hope all the horse come back safely and none of us lose any money :)
  • jimspud
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    AndyForsyth said:

    I'd love to see them go at it, but like Sambo says, campaigned at different distances which makes it tough. Frankel's a 1-miler, I think BC is a 5-6f runner.... I would have thought though that 7f would be a good compromise but the trainers/owners know best.


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    Black Caviar can run a strong mile.Any distance up to a mile she would kick Frankels brains in.
  • scottinfrance139347
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    u'd think black caviar had been timed against english horses but just watch your bets, pundits on skysports news will talk about any fkin thing
  • sambo applecart
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    jimspud said:

    Black Caviar can run a strong mile.Any distance up to a mile she would kick Frankels brains in.


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    The official ratings dont say that mate.......
  • AndyForsyth
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    sambo applecart said:

    yes mate, i hope all the horse come back safely and none of us lose any money :)


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    FFS.......


    TIPS MAN! TIPS!
  • sambo applecart
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    AndyForsyth said:

    FFS.......



    TIPS MAN! TIPS!

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    Dawn Approach in the 4.25 tomoz mate, i think its a lovely horse. 
  • AndyForsyth
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    Haha, good man.... I did think about that one, especially because the jockey/trainer combination seem to have quite a few winners in Ireland..... I'm thinking I'm gonna throw a quid on it, but I fancied Sir Prancealot too.
  • sambo applecart
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    AndyForsyth said:

    Haha, good man.... I did think about that one, especially because the jockey/trainer combination seem to have quite a few winners in Ireland..... I'm thinking I'm gonna throw a quid on it, but I fancied Sir Prancealot too.


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    dutch them then mate :)
  • blue32years
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    Jolly roger at Newton Abbott looks a good un today
  • AndyForsyth
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    sambo applecart said:

    dutch them then mate :)


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    Running the risk of sounding a bit dim here...... What does 'dutch them' mean??
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