scottdblue said:

billy, cahill, arteta felly, bains, saha and beckford all get 50k a week

sambo applecart said:

I couldnt agree more milky, there is players we could have sold this summer that wouldnt have affected the squad too much, i think if Jags and Arteta had gone along with the yak and yobo(wages off the wage bill and any money from these sales to the bank), perhaps for a combined fee of 23-24 million, i think we could have signed Dann for 9 million, Zogbia for 10 million and still given 4 million to the bank and NOT looked any weaker, i really cant grasp why even DM or BK cant see that?? Ive no idea how to run a football club or manage a football team so i maybe arnt the best person to be giving opinion but from my eyes thats what i see.

I think with Jags they have tried to hold out for far too much when everybody can see 15-16 million is enough, and if we could get 8 for arteta it would be more than enough considering the wages he is on.

I get the feeling that Barkley is going to be there get out clause. This is their plan imo, play him as much as possible this season, and hope for manu chelski shitteh or whoever else to bid big money for him next summer thus solving most of our problems in 1 foul swoop, i might be wrong but i can see it.

It just seems this summer, both BK and DM have been scared to sell anyone, i dont know why this is, fear of the fans kicking off cos the money would go straight to the bank?? Or a big chunk of any big sale going to the bank perhaps??

To stop this happening again i would suggest that the board give us a wage structure, and the likes of Arteta off the wage bill and dont pay such ridiculous wages in fututre cos its of my opinion that we just cant afford them, its that simple, i can see it and you guys can see it, if we had a wage cap of around 55k a week, would we be in such a mess? I personally dont think we would be. Arteta on nearly 4miilion a year and we bring in about 80million a year?? Thats nearly  5% of our income on 1 player, you tell me what other business would do that?? And i dotn just mean in football, just in the world as general?? We are not a badly run club in my eyes, it just seems to be a learning curve, somethings we are getting right, some things we are getting wrong, and i think a sale of 1 or 2 players will address that and help us get back on a level playing field.

scottdblue said:

billy, cahill, arteta felly, bains, saha and beckford all get 50k a week

sambo applecart said:

SELL SELL SELL!

deso1957bc said:

The debt is not "getting paid back"....it's growing...year after year after year after year after year....do you understand?

And the club has no assets..none..zilch....

And the banks are saying we won't extend your overdraft because it is our money at risk.

And meanwhile none,I repeat,none,of the directors have put one penny in to this club apart from their initial investment to buy their shares.

And this has been public knowledge for years.....ffs



Well lets bite the bullet then deso mate, if we cant afford to keep the top earners at the club, lets get rid of them, if we can get rid of the yak, yobo and arteta, thats going to save us 7.5 million a year, so we could easily pay soembody 40k a week and still save 5.5million a year in wages, yak and yobo dont play so we dont need to replace them imo and we would have to obviously get cover in for arteta hence the 40k a week. That should just about balance the books every year should it not?? I've harped on for long enough about this, but it seems to me, we cant afford to pay our players the money we do, so we need to put a wage or salary cap on it, i dont know the exact incomings and out goings of the club, but if we get for example....

45million from tv money
7million prize money from the premier league


thats 52 million??   So lets say 17 players each earning 50k a week & the manager earning 50k a week, giving you a string squad of players, and leaving 5.2 million to spend on the youngsters wages and fringe players. These are averages, of course somebody could earn 50k a week, somebody else might be on 35k etc etc.

We have say 22,000 season ticket holders at an average of 400 quid each, thats another 8.8million. On top of about another 4million a year in match day tickets.

Ive no idea how much we bring in a year in sponsorship, it must be towards 3 or 4million in total??

I know im breaking this down in simplistic terms, but my point is, if we kept to a wage structure, and when players want more than we can offer, we bite the bullet and sell, and bring in a replacement.

We are not hard enough from a business persepective imo. Whether its for fear of upsetting the fans or what it is i dont know, but times come when its time to move players on, whilst they still have resale value, but for whatever reason we dont and we are not a rich enough club to keeping hanging on to them and then them becoming worht next to nothing. Tickets harps on about this alot of the time and he is right, a time comes when a players can and should be sold and we need to stop being so proud imo and let some go when the time is right and for me this summer was that time, start thinking a little for the next 3 or 4 years rather than just hoping we get through the next season.

Everyone can think im talking cack, but it makes sense to me. Not everything can be good all the time, we have had a lot wrose times at the club thats for sure, so spending a year sorting the club out a bit isnt too much a downer from my perspective.