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Arteta........
  • Tommy20
    Posts: 44
    Had a few txt's off mates who haven't seen the game, cheering Arteta's name because he scored a last minute penalty.

    Since he has signed his 75k a week he has done nothing. How is he still taking corners and free kicks, he never clears the wall, just smashes it into the first man.

    Last week is the perfect example, Baines hits the crossbar, with a stunning free kick, Arteta comes on, and takes one a couple of meters back from Baines earlier one, and he blasts it into the wall. Baines would have buried it.

    Today I forgot he was on the pitch until he stood up for the penalty.

    He isnt the only one at the minute who needs to stand up and raise their game, every one of them today was shocking.

    We won today, but I feel worse than I did after last weekends defeat to QPR.
  • milky71
    Posts: 8,736
    Think Arteta dictates too much and Moyes can't control him.

    Last season Moyes came out and said Arteta was off set piece duty

    Next game Arteta pushes Baines aside and takes another poor freekick
  • Tommy20
    Posts: 44
    Baines is so much better with dead ball situations though. Getting so annoyed with people saying we should keep onto our better players, and including Arteta in this.

    He was brilliant when we signed him, with an average squad around him, he looked quality, but as the squad has improved he has been left looking distinctly average at best.

    There is a reason he hasn't been capped by Spain
  • Heyesie
    Posts: 61
    Tommy20 said:

    Baines is so much better with dead ball situations though. Getting so annoyed with people saying we should keep onto our better players, and including Arteta in this.


    He was brilliant when we signed him, with an average squad around him, he looked quality, but as the squad has improved he has been left looking distinctly average at best.

    There is a reason he hasn't been capped by Spain
    Yes,, He's a Basque.;)



  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,142
    sell sell sell
  • DRINGO
    Posts: 636
    Tommy20 said:

    Had a few txt's off mates who haven't seen the game, cheering Arteta's name because he scored a last minute penalty.


    Since he has signed his 75k a week he has done nothing. How is he still taking corners and free kicks, he never clears the wall, just smashes it into the first man.

    Last week is the perfect example, Baines hits the crossbar, with a stunning free kick, Arteta comes on, and takes one a couple of meters back from Baines earlier one, and he blasts it into the wall. Baines would have buried it.

    Today I forgot he was on the pitch until he stood up for the penalty.

    He isnt the only one at the minute who needs to stand up and raise their game, every one of them today was shocking.

    We won today, but I feel worse than I did after last weekends defeat to QPR.

    COULD BE WORST ! COULD HAVE HOILET AND FORMICA TAKING OUR PENS ! ;-)



  • Tommy20
    Posts: 44
    DRINGO said:

    Tommy20 said:

    Had a few txt's off mates who haven't seen the game, cheering Arteta's name because he scored a last minute penalty.


    Since he has signed his 75k a week he has done nothing. How is he still taking corners and free kicks, he never clears the wall, just smashes it into the first man.

    Last week is the perfect example, Baines hits the crossbar, with a stunning free kick, Arteta comes on, and takes one a couple of meters back from Baines earlier one, and he blasts it into the wall. Baines would have buried it.

    Today I forgot he was on the pitch until he stood up for the penalty.

    He isnt the only one at the minute who needs to stand up and raise their game, every one of them today was shocking.

    We won today, but I feel worse than I did after last weekends defeat to QPR.

    COULD BE WORST ! COULD HAVE HOILET AND FORMICA TAKING OUR PENS ! ;-)





    True but I was expecting Arteta to blast it straight at Robinson, about waist height... Same technique as all of his free kicks and corners.
  • lukep08
    Posts: 309
    Arteta wernt the only poor one yesterday it was only howard who can come out of that game with there hea dheld high, other 10 were a disgrace (again) jagielka is a mess he needs to be sold, 3 games at fault for both goals give away a pen yesterday and was just awfull all game
  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,142
    lukep08 said:

    Arteta wernt the only poor one yesterday it was only howard who can come out of that game with there hea dheld high, other 10 were a disgrace (again) jagielka is a mess he needs to be sold, 3 games at fault for both goals give away a pen yesterday and was just awfull all game



    his minds elsewhere for me luke.......




  • lukep08
    Posts: 309
    sambo applecart said:

    lukep08 said:

    Arteta wernt the only poor one yesterday it was only howard who can come out of that game with there hea dheld high, other 10 were a disgrace (again) jagielka is a mess he needs to be sold, 3 games at fault for both goals give away a pen yesterday and was just awfull all game



    his minds elsewhere for me luke.......



    i know yer, which is why we need to sell, heitinga is just as good when hes played at the back, just sell jags n try and geta striker



  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,142
    lukep08 said:

    sambo applecart said:

    lukep08 said:

    Arteta wernt the only poor one yesterday it was only howard who can come out of that game with there hea dheld high, other 10 were a disgrace (again) jagielka is a mess he needs to be sold, 3 games at fault for both goals give away a pen yesterday and was just awfull all game



    his minds elsewhere for me luke.......



    i know yer, which is why we need to sell, heitinga is just as good when hes played at the back, just sell jags n try and geta striker



    that seems to make sense to me, but for some reason we seem to intent on keeping hold of players jsut for the sake of it, when maybe the time has come to let a couple go, dirves me crackers more than anything else tbh






  • 11blue
    Posts: 4,669
    He scored the winner, but he had a poor game, and with the money he gets I would expect better.
  • Corro
    Posts: 44
    I'm grateful for the fantastic football and loyalty MA has brought to Everton. Unfortunately he isn't the player he once was - Baines has true class with free kicks and DM must make sure he is the one to take them. Everyone groaned out loud when MA walked up to take the pen - what does that tell you.

    I'm happy for MA to go to Arsenal - but only of we get top money......Wegner thinks he hold's all the aces and get everyone cheap - 8-2 Arsen 8-2 ....put up or shut up.
  • lukep08
    Posts: 309
    Corro said:

    I'm grateful for the fantastic football and loyalty MA has brought to Everton. Unfortunately he isn't the player he once was - Baines has true class with free kicks and DM must make sure he is the one to take them. Everyone groaned out loud when MA walked up to take the pen - what does that tell you.

    I'm happy for MA to go to Arsenal - but only of we get top money......Wegner thinks he hold's all the aces and get everyone cheap - 8-2 Arsen 8-2 ....put up or shut up.



    To be fair his pen was excellent......
  • 11blue
    Posts: 4,669
    His pen was good but I think I would rather have Baines on Pens 
  • lukep08
    Posts: 309
    11blue said:

    His pen was good but I think I would rather have Baines on Pens 



    i actually wopuldnt to be fair, artetas technique on pens is excellent, baines mostly just hits it hard ( doesnt always work)
  • ianefc1212620
    Posts: 60
    lukep08 said:

    Arteta wernt the only poor one yesterday it was only howard who can come out of that game with there hea dheld high, other 10 were a disgrace (again) jagielka is a mess he needs to be sold, 3 games at fault for both goals give away a pen yesterday and was just awfull all game



    did u go the game yesterday? Jags won almost everything in the air!
  • milky71
    Posts: 8,736
    Shame the ball was on floor when he gave away the pen then.

    His head isn't right and has had 3 shocking games at fault for 2 goals and gave a pen away in the other.

    He was also poor in pre-season

    Didn't think he could get any worse than he was last season but i was wrong
  • lukep08
    Posts: 309
    ianefc1212620 said:

    lukep08 said:

    Arteta wernt the only poor one yesterday it was only howard who can come out of that game with there hea dheld high, other 10 were a disgrace (again) jagielka is a mess he needs to be sold, 3 games at fault for both goals give away a pen yesterday and was just awfull all game



    did u go the game yesterday? Jags won almost everything in the air!


    Yer i did, he was awfull ( again) mistake after mistake.
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