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Rodwell is not the problem
  • mattyod
    Posts: 305
    Everytime we play 2 DMs (Neville, Heitinga, Felliani or Rodwell) we lose our ability to play football. It would be interesting to see the stats on how many games we have lost with 2 DMs on. The minute the team sheet was announced it was obvious that we were going to struggle. Although we won against Spurs the minute Rodwell came on we lost all ability to go forward.

    I don't blame Rodwell because I think he is a good player (Felliani is better) but when he plays he has to share the role and therefore only does half the job. When Felliani is left to break up the play he is awesome but when he also has to work as a playmaker and get further forward gaps appear. If you want to rest players then rest Felliani and give Rodwell a game but make sure you have someone on the pitch who can pass a football. If you drop Ossie then give Barkley a go.

    We always end up with this big gap between central midfield and our striker especially wheb we include Victor or Tim as they are not good passers of the ball and therefore become redundant on the pitch. This is why Saha wasnt producing nor Yakubu, Beckford and the rest.

    Losing was hard but if the FA cup is the focus then fine but none of the players on the pitch (except Vic who I do not see as anything other than a sub when we are down) could have done a job for us but when you have no midfielder in the middle who can create something you will always end up on the back foot.


  • koolhandluke8
    Posts: 3,024
    I understand rodwell is just returning from injury..but imo he was poor when he came on on saturday and totally out of his depth last night...his "effort" at the ned summed up his game..weak,feeble and way off the mark !!
  • weverett
    Posts: 137
    mattyod said:

    Everytime we play 2 DMs (Neville, Heitinga, Felliani or Rodwell) we lose our ability to play football. 


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    This is not true.  Our best play has been with felliani and gibson in the center.  The problem tonight was both fella and rodwell seemed lost when they needed to advance the ball.  Even in a DM role you need to be able to move the game forward and they simply couldnt do it.

    Edit: This may be a result of pienaar, coleman, and vic having horrible games.  hard to push forward when there isnt anyone worth passing to.
  • Beano
    Posts: 3,297
    I'd like to think Rodwell has the actual ability - rather, I'm losing confidence is his ability to styay fit long enough to show it? He had a run there for a couple of months from about September to November where he played every minute of every game (bar after the red card in the derby) and was beginning to come good and even got in the England team (altho that's not saying much) and then he goes and gets injured again. Made a couple of short comebacks which proved to be false starts. And here he is making another comeback yet again! Its been the pattern for too long now! Frustrating as hell!!


  • murray1878
    Posts: 2,879
    Rodwell is way over rated........What has he actually done? **** all, he gives the ball away far too much and has not got a creative bone in his body. He can not shoot either. He is ok in the air and does the odd tackle but thats it. We have been all waiting on this big take off from him, new superstar etc but I see none of the qualities of a superstar. I admit yes he has been out for a while and has not had any luck with injuries, so it only natural it will take him time to get up to speed, but my point is he has never done anything for us. Maybe he would be a better centre half?????

    When people were quoting 20million for him etc I was praying he would go. I dont believe we need him at the club and would take 5 million for him
  • 11blue
    Posts: 4,681
    Rodwell is a decent player but someone like City, United or Chelsea offered £20M I would take the money and run.
  • Beano
    Posts: 3,297
    11blue said:

    Rodwell is a decent player but someone like City, United or Chelsea offered £20M I would take the money and run.


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    Dream on!
  • 11blue
    Posts: 4,681
    Dream on!

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    Exactly!
  • milky71
    Posts: 8,784
    Give the boy a break he has hardly played and needs a full injury free season to get his confidence.

    Next season will be a monster one for him.
  • diggernaut
    Posts: 1,214
    milky71 said:

    Give the boy a break he has hardly played and needs a full injury free season to get his confidence.

    Next season will be a monster one for him.


    ---------'e needs a SEASON to ge' 'is confidence? ffs ever 'ear o' sports psychologists? they work yer know..




  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,216
    milky71 said:

    Give the boy a break he has hardly played and needs a full injury free season to get his confidence.

    Next season will be a monster one for him.


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    Agreed Milky, like any sport, when you are out for a while injured, it takes time to get your form back, example being TIger Woods, its taken him a long time and he still isnt where he wants to be. Your touch just doesnt come back, it takes time.
  • diggernaut
    Posts: 1,214

    Agreed Milky, like any sport, when you are out for a while injured, it takes time to get your form back, example being TIger Woods, its taken him a long time and he still isnt where he wants to be. Your touch just doesnt come back, it takes time.


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    TW had a very serious injury after 15 yrs at the top..

    You seriously suggesting Rodwell,who has never had a sustained run and has never achieved anything is a comparable example?
  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,216

    TW had a very serious injury after 15 yrs at the top..


    You seriously suggesting Rodwell,who has never had a sustained run and has never achieved anything is a comparable example?

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    No mate, i just couldnt think of another example thats all. My point is, that whatever sport it is, injuries take a while to get over and to re-find your form. Rodders didnt play brilliant last night, and im not saying he is a world beater, but, he was playing solidly sept-nov before he got injured, he comes back from injury the last week or so and people just pile on a band wagon saying he isnt very good, useless etc. The lads back from injury, fingers crossed he stays fit now, and if he does, judge him in a few months time, not game to game. 
  • Allseeingeye
    Posts: 258
    RODWELL IS **** - END OF DEBATE.
  • diggernaut
    Posts: 1,214

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    I haven' judged anyone  mate ..jus' questioned someones assertion tha' a 23 yr old who 'as never been a regular needs a season to ge' 'is confidence back! also tha' a comparison with TW is no' jus' no' valid bu' plain fckn ridiculous.
  • Allseeingeye
    Posts: 258
    RODWELL IS S H IT END OF DEBATE.
  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,216

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    Yeah but Digger, he was a regular before he got injured, and imo, was starting to play well, finally finding his feet until his setback. I'm not disagreeing that using TW wasn't probably the best example, however, whatever sport you play, injUries take their toll, and it takes time to get your form/touch back. My point with regards him having a full season was more pointing out that people should judge him when he has had a 6 month or so run in the team not cos he had a bad game last night, and yes, i know you havnt judged him, im making that point to others who want to judge every player match by match, when its what happens over the course of a season which counts. 
  • diggernaut
    Posts: 1,214

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    Can' argue with tha' sambo...it's waffle bu' wha' the 'ell.
  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,216

    Can' argue with tha' sambo...it's waffle bu' wha' the 'ell.


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    hahaha, like the way you have got me to completely explain myself then agree.

    I feel like ive been 'psycholedged' ;)
  • Warrington Dan
    Posts: 8,859
    Rodwell is a decent player although he had a shitten yesterday. He's not world class by any means but he's a good player to have in the squad
  • HOWIE8
    Posts: 7,570
    What is it that makes anyone want to defend Rodwell, im not going to say stupid crass things about him, but can you honestly name a game when you can say, yes thats why they say he is worth £20 mil, coz i cant. I cant even say he is worth £2 mil really, he doesnt affect a game in any way, he even says himself he shouldnt be about potential now, he should be taking games by the scruff of the neck. Now before you all point to his injuries, well think about it he just hasnt got it to play the Prem, thats why he gets so many injuries, so to those saying he needs an injury free season, it just wont happen......

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