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Posts: 2,959February 2012
Really impressed....moves seamlessly away from the off field antis of our best players.....and away from the old Lampard Gerrard question too.
Good choice... just hope that Terry, Gerrard and Lampard can all be quietly ushered out of the door now over the coming years and we can forget all about them.
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Posts: 606February 2012 lm hopinh for they retire internationally then they'll begin to retire fully
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Posts: 1,537February 2012 I'm glad someone else has been named captain, but why Parker? He isn't anything special.
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Posts: 3,003February 2012 only problem for me is he's rightly getting rid of the "old gaurd" but if looking long term he/they surley cant be looking at parker for skipper !!
I heard rumurs gerrard is thinking of packing in international footy to concentrate on club football !! -
Posts: 2,959February 2012
Know what you are saying there khl re parker.....but think this is a good move. In choosing Parker he's moved away from the old guard, drawn a line under it, and picked someone who can not be considered as a long term option.
He's basically ensured that the new manager can pick his captain to take the club forward without offering it to someone only for them to have it taken off them again like with Rio should the new manager want someone else from the new crop of players.
I didn't have Pearce down as a political mastermind But this move is a beauty in my book.
Plus, it just serves to remind everyone that its the team's performance that counts, and parker has been part of some very promising team performances for england, rather than shoe horning all your stars into one team. Which seems to have been the preoccupation of far too many mangers to date.
It used to be the Lampard Gerrard debate, and then there was Barry...sod all that, Parker is captain.
I like.
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Posts: 1,002February 2012
How can parker be captain when he isnt even captain of spurs. the guy was playing championship football at the start of the season and should be made to earn his stripes at his club like he is doing at spurs, behind dawson and king who are captains
should of been gerrard, barry or if he was fit rooney, how can someone with just 10 caps now be captain of england,
england captaincy should be earnt, not just given to the inform player, I see now why stuart pearce has never made it as a premier league manager and wont be considered as a permanent england manager.
Lets hope we get harry redknapp in soon.
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Posts: 2,959February 2012
In all fairness and seriousness. The proof of anything being a good and/or solid idea on the BR is to have tickets openly state that its a bad idea.
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Posts: 3,253February 2012 I think it's a good choice as we all know it's an interim appointment. I think that the job will ultimately be given to Rooney so it makes sense not to give it to Hart, Milner etc at the moment as you would then have to take it off them again and it may upset them. Gerrard is finished and for me shouldn't even be on the bench...
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Posts: 2,959February 20121ceablue said:
I think it's a good choice as we all know it's an interim appointment. I think that the job will ultimately be given to Rooney so it makes sense not to give it to Hart, Milner etc at the moment as you would then have to take it off them again and it may upset them. Gerrard is finished and for me shouldn't even be on the bench...
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Posts: 1,002February 2012
rooney will never be the regular captain, he loses it too often gets sent off and swearing into the camera. plus he doesent know how to handle the media like gerrard, ferdinand terry did.
i can see rooney cracking under the pressure if he was ever made captain, he just hasnt matured enough as a person to be captain. How many stupid things has rooney already done in his career on and off the field, on top of that you know there will be more to come.
think it will be joe hart as the next long term captain,
as for the euros gerrard is the only candidate left, after terry was stripped of it and ferdinand said no, once he has 100 caps for england I reckon gerrard will call it a day.
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Posts: 3,253February 2012 So it's confirmed then, Rooney will be captain.
I love the way tickets suggests it's should be Rooney or Gerrard, then rubbishes Rooney and introduces Hart, but we all know he really wants Gerrard, even though he's finished....... Brilliant...... -
Posts: 2,959February 20121ceablue said:
So it's confirmed then, Rooney will be captain.
I love the way tickets suggests it's should be Rooney or Gerrard, then rubbishes Rooney and introduces Hart, but we all know he really wants Gerrard, even though he's finished....... Brilliant......-----------------
Thats the way it works with Tickets.
I just hope that the FA stick with Pearce for the euro's. And then, Gerrard, Lampard and Terry can dissapear under the black cloud Terry's court case will no doubt create....and a new manager can come in without all that baggage, bad blood, race issues and ego's gone mad.
In fairness, it would be great experience for Pearce, and its what the England Team and its fans need. It hasn't worked out, purge the system of the posion, clear the decks, and move forward afresh.
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Posts: 3,003February 2012ToffeeCup said:
Know what you are saying there khl re parker.....but think this is a good move. In choosing Parker he's moved away from the old guard, drawn a line under it, and picked someone who can not be considered as a long term option.
He's basically ensured that the new manager can pick his captain to take the club forward without offering it to someone only for them to have it taken off them again like with Rio should the new manager want someone else from the new crop of players.
I didn't have Pearce down as a political mastermind But this move is a beauty in my book.
Plus, it just serves to remind everyone that its the team's performance that counts, and parker has been part of some very promising team performances for england, rather than shoe horning all your stars into one team. Which seems to have been the preoccupation of far too many mangers to date.
It used to be the Lampard Gerrard debate, and then there was Barry...sod all that, Parker is captain.
I like.
the whispers around the FA are that this is the opportunity for a clean sweep of ALL the old stalwarts out of the system..
it remains tobe seen if they have the bottle to have "out with the old in with the new"...I personally think they'll bottle it to a point and rely on the old gaurd for the euro's particularly if they get hammered in friendlies between now and june !!! -
Posts: 3,253February 2012ToffeeCup said:1ceablue said:
So it's confirmed then, Rooney will be captain.
I love the way tickets suggests it's should be Rooney or Gerrard, then rubbishes Rooney and introduces Hart, but we all know he really wants Gerrard, even though he's finished....... Brilliant......-----------------
Thats the way it works with Tickets.
I just hope that the FA stick with Pearce for the euro's. And then, Gerrard, Lampard and Terry can dissapear under the black cloud Terry's court case will no doubt create....and a new manager can come in without all that baggage, bad blood, race issues and ego's gone mad.
In fairness, it would be great experience for Pearce, and its what the England Team and its fans need. It hasn't worked out, purge the system of the posion, clear the decks, and move forward afresh.-----------------
This is exactly what has just happened with the England RU team. Get rid of the old guard, in with some really good young players and start afresh. It's time for "the golden generation" to p.iss off with their gold..... -
Posts: 2,959February 2012koolhandluke8 said:ToffeeCup said:
Know what you are saying there khl re parker.....but think this is a good move. In choosing Parker he's moved away from the old guard, drawn a line under it, and picked someone who can not be considered as a long term option.
He's basically ensured that the new manager can pick his captain to take the club forward without offering it to someone only for them to have it taken off them again like with Rio should the new manager want someone else from the new crop of players.
I didn't have Pearce down as a political mastermind But this move is a beauty in my book.
Plus, it just serves to remind everyone that its the team's performance that counts, and parker has been part of some very promising team performances for england, rather than shoe horning all your stars into one team. Which seems to have been the preoccupation of far too many mangers to date.
It used to be the Lampard Gerrard debate, and then there was Barry...sod all that, Parker is captain.
I like.
the whispers around the FA are that this is the opportunity for a clean sweep of ALL the old stalwarts out of the system..
it remains tobe seen if they have the bottle to have "out with the old in with the new"...I personally think they'll bottle it to a point and rely on the old gaurd for the euro's particularly if they get hammered in friendlies between now and june !!!-----------------
I'm hoping this is the case. Stick with Pearce, let him do as he pleases. Terry case to come, Gerrard and Lampard will be finished by the world cup. Select an England manager at the right time, in the off season and with good time ahead of the next big competition.
Which ever club loses out to the England Team deserves a proper hand over and the chance to bring someone in for the start of a new season. And I am no fan of spurs... although their football is growing on me!
Not sure the FA have the nerve for that though, as you point out.
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Posts: 3,003February 2012ToffeeCup said:koolhandluke8 said:ToffeeCup said:
Know what you are saying there khl re parker.....but think this is a good move. In choosing Parker he's moved away from the old guard, drawn a line under it, and picked someone who can not be considered as a long term option.
He's basically ensured that the new manager can pick his captain to take the club forward without offering it to someone only for them to have it taken off them again like with Rio should the new manager want someone else from the new crop of players.
I didn't have Pearce down as a political mastermind But this move is a beauty in my book.
Plus, it just serves to remind everyone that its the team's performance that counts, and parker has been part of some very promising team performances for england, rather than shoe horning all your stars into one team. Which seems to have been the preoccupation of far too many mangers to date.
It used to be the Lampard Gerrard debate, and then there was Barry...sod all that, Parker is captain.
I like.
the whispers around the FA are that this is the opportunity for a clean sweep of ALL the old stalwarts out of the system..
it remains tobe seen if they have the bottle to have "out with the old in with the new"...I personally think they'll bottle it to a point and rely on the old gaurd for the euro's particularly if they get hammered in friendlies between now and june !!!-----------------
I'm hoping this is the case. Stick with Pearce, let him do as he pleases. Terry case to come, Gerrard and Lampard will be finished by the world cup. Select an England manager at the right time, in the off season and with good time ahead of the next big competition.
Which ever club loses out to the England Team deserves a proper hand over and the chance to bring someone in for the start of a new season. And I am no fan of spurs... although their football is growing on me!
Not sure the FA have the nerve for that though, as you point out.
tbh in my professional opinion Pearce is no where near good enough ! and shouldn't take us into the euro's..this is the FA's easy solution and gives them some breathing space... IF and i say IF they get beat tonight pearce will get slaughtered..the selection will get slaughtered and the FA will walk away with an indignant "we couldn't lose " attitude in that it'll be a case of "damned if we do... damned if we dont"....
for me they should go for an experienced coach to take the reins NOW whilst waiting for the manager to be appointed...the manager gets a "promise" NOW that the jobs is his at the end of the season BUT works with the coach from a distance (ie sqaud selection/tactics etc) until the end of the prem season... he then takes over the reigns of the national team for the finals and the coach becomes the managers assistant.....this way he has helped the squad develop...from now until the finals and is fully aware of whats been happenning within the sqaud ! -
Posts: 902February 2012 I agree with a new fresh idea but it will never happen untill the golden generation call it a day.
I feel the younger players should be given a better chance as with cricket a team is built and wins and does well but then you look and several players are coming to the end of there career and they all leave in a very short period of time. Panic sets in and people are then rushed in and never aspire to there potential. Youth needs to be brought in slowly. Just like at club level. Friendlies should be used to not just galvanise the team and players but to bring the players through that are on the edge so when it come to the big games they already have experiance. -
Posts: 3,003February 2012 unfortunately our national sqaud is as much selected by the press than the manager !! and wont allow this to happen as it should particularly if the results dont go engerlunds way !!
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Posts: 24,200February 20121ceablue said:
So it's confirmed then, Rooney will be captain.
I love the way tickets suggests it's should be Rooney or Gerrard, then rubbishes Rooney and introduces Hart, but we all know he really wants Gerrard, even though he's finished....... Brilliant......-----------------
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Posts: 24,200February 2012koolhandluke8 said:
unfortunately our national sqaud is as much selected by the press than the manager !! and wont allow this to happen as it should particularly if the results dont go engerlunds way !!
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Posts: 2,959February 2012koolhandluke8 said:
unfortunately our national sqaud is as much selected by the press than the manager !! and wont allow this to happen as it should particularly if the results dont go engerlunds way !!
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True....much as they blame it on the language...in all fairness, the press hated Capello because he didn't give a toss about them and took litle notice of this either.
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