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Posts: 426February 19 Howard - Just did as he usually does, a few hesitent decisions that could have cost us dearly
Baines - Same old consistancy from Leighton. Had a good game defending but didn't attack as well as he did with Pienaar
Heintinga - Absolutely solid at the back. good to see him showing his class
Distin - Without question a first choice centre back, great player
Hibbert - I can't explain how much I dislike Hibbert. He's always 5 yards off his man and is always backing off not making a challenge. He always passes back when attacking and is confronted by a defender completely cutting off any attacking momentum we have at that point.
Neville - He played ok but he's past his and I would rather see a young lad to play ahead of him
Gibson - Im 50/50 whether I like him or not, but for 500 grand I don't expect a world beater so hopefully he'll get match fit and his football brain kicks in
Fellaini - Really has been on top form recently and hoping he continues to keep at such a standard
Drenthe - Had a good game but will probably struggle to get on the team with Pienaar on the left and Seamus coming back from injury. People may say play Drenthe ahead of Seamus but I don't know
Gueye - I thought he played well yesterday, probably his best performance in a blue shirt. He made a great ball to begin our first goal
Stracqualursi - I'm absolutely loving Stracq at the moment. he has been a top class player with the attitude he's shown and is throughly deserving his goals at the minute. Great poachers instinct for the goal too -
Posts: 3,621February 19 Why do you dislike Hibbert? Fair enough, some people rate certain players higher than others but I don't dislike any player that players for our team.
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Posts: 833February 19 I'd assume he means as a player, I certainly don't like Phil Neville playing in midfield.
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Posts: 85February 19 Hi Jaybeck. My solution to the uncertainty you have is to put Drenthe in Gibson's place, to accomodate Coleman. I like Drenthe.
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Posts: 3,621February 19 I think that people give Hibbert an unnecessary hard time and I don't know why. In my opinion, Hibbert has to be a contender for player of the season for his performances at right back, as well as an excellent performance at centre back against City. I cannot remember him having a bad game all season to be honest, and he completely deserves his place in the team.
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Posts: 2,945February 20 drenthe will start with piennar , cant play coleman ahead of drenthe ffs hes not fit to lace his boots.
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Posts: 298February 20 Just hope Neville does not get another start in the middle of the park. If we are short then stick Gueye or Drenthe in the Cahill role and leave felliani to do his job as DM. Even give another striker a chance but Neville offers nothing there
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Posts: 41February 20I think that people give Hibbert an unnecessary hard time and I don't know why. In my opinion, Hibbert has to be a contender for player of the season for his performances at right back, as well as an excellent performance at centre back against City. I cannot remember him having a bad game all season to be honest, and he completely deserves his place in the team.
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Can't agree with this at all.He has had a few really solid games at the back. Most noticeably against Man City when he was out of position. But he offers nothing at all going forward and he really needs to being a right back...certainly not player of the season -
Posts: 79February 20Li tie said:I think that people give Hibbert an unnecessary hard time and I don't know why. In my opinion, Hibbert has to be a contender for player of the season for his performances at right back, as well as an excellent performance at centre back against City. I cannot remember him having a bad game all season to be honest, and he completely deserves his place in the team.
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Can't agree with this at all.He has had a few really solid games at the back. Most noticeably against Man City when he was out of position. But he offers nothing at all going forward and he really needs to being a right back...certainly not player of the season-----------------
its his birthday give him a break -
Posts: 426February 20 Been seeing links around the internet saying Moyes might not even offer Drenthe a contract at the end of this season as he finds him great going forward but offers nothing when defending.
When I see Drenthe with the ball on the edge of our box I get nervous because he consistently tries to dribble his way out of trouble. People have suggested playing him behind the striker but we as a team could really use his pace on the wing to attack fullbacks who always have pace. Over the years our wingers have been to slow and we finally have one with speed. I'd like to see him start and as this season he's started two games were we have scored with within 2 minutes, him being the scorer of both.
Yesterday was probably the most consistent he's played for us and I think the arrival of Pienaar is affecting his playing style for the better. Drenthe and Pienaar on both things sounds great on paper, I hope to one day see it. -
Posts: 852February 20jaybeck said:
Howard - Just did as he usually does, a few hesitent decisions that could have cost us dearly
save of the season contender from him in the second half........saved us from an uncomfortable end to the game....
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Posts: 41February 20Li tie said:I think that people give Hibbert an unnecessary hard time and I don't know why. In my opinion, Hibbert has to be a contender for player of the season for his performances at right back, as well as an excellent performance at centre back against City. I cannot remember him having a bad game all season to be honest, and he completely deserves his place in the team.
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Can't agree with this at all.He has had a few really solid games at the back. Most noticeably against Man City when he was out of position. But he offers nothing at all going forward and he really needs to being a right back...certainly not player of the season-----------------
its his birthday give him a break-----------------
I'll be giving you a Chinese burn sonny jim -
Posts: 79February 20Li tie said:Li tie said:I think that people give Hibbert an unnecessary hard time and I don't know why. In my opinion, Hibbert has to be a contender for player of the season for his performances at right back, as well as an excellent performance at centre back against City. I cannot remember him having a bad game all season to be honest, and he completely deserves his place in the team.
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Can't agree with this at all.He has had a few really solid games at the back. Most noticeably against Man City when he was out of position. But he offers nothing at all going forward and he really needs to being a right back...certainly not player of the season-----------------
its his birthday give him a break-----------------
I'll be giving you a Chinese burn sonny jim-----------------
ha ha nice one is that a hot curry -
Posts: 3,621February 20Li tie said:I think that people give Hibbert an unnecessary hard time and I don't know why. In my opinion, Hibbert has to be a contender for player of the season for his performances at right back, as well as an excellent performance at centre back against City. I cannot remember him having a bad game all season to be honest, and he completely deserves his place in the team.
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Can't agree with this at all.He has had a few really solid games at the back. Most noticeably against Man City when he was out of position. But he offers nothing at all going forward and he really needs to being a right back...certainly not player of the season-----------------
Well Li Tie didn't offer much going forward either :p -
Posts: 3,279February 20 Hibbo- Right Back
Main job of a right back is to defend, he is the best tackling and defending right back weve had at the club since, erm erm erm Gary Stevens. His performance at Centre Back against City, who had Dzeko, Aguero, Silva et al, has to be one of the best defending jobs done this season.
Right Wing back- not Hibbo's position, but it has to be said, as has been said on another thread every time he overlapped Drenthe he was ignored, when he wasnt he got in some decent crosses, just check the highlights.
Sometimes when we dont like a player as much as you do(jaybeck), we can be oblivious to anything good a player does, as i admit i was with Saha, i never took to him even when everyone was saying he was class........... -
Posts: 3,621February 20HOWIE8 said:
Hibbo- Right Back
Main job of a right back is to defend, he is the best tackling and defending right back weve had at the club since, erm erm erm Gary Stevens. His performance at Centre Back against City, who had Dzeko, Aguero, Silva et al, has to be one of the best defending jobs done this season.
Right Wing back- not Hibbo's position, but it has to be said, as has been said on another thread every time he overlapped Drenthe he was ignored, when he wasnt he got in some decent crosses, just check the highlights.
Sometimes when we dont like a player as much as you do(jaybeck), we can be oblivious to anything good a player does, as i admit i was with Saha, i never took to him even when everyone was saying he was class...........-----------------
I agree about Saha to be honest. Everyone used to say that on his say he was "world class" but they only time I saw a "world class" performance from his was against Blackpool last season. So obviously, he was only on his day once during his time at Everton! -
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Posts: 426February 20HOWIE8 said:
Hibbo- Right Back
Main job of a right back is to defend, he is the best tackling and defending right back weve had at the club since, erm erm erm Gary Stevens. His performance at Centre Back against City, who had Dzeko, Aguero, Silva et al, has to be one of the best defending jobs done this season.
Right Wing back- not Hibbo's position, but it has to be said, as has been said on another thread every time he overlapped Drenthe he was ignored, when he wasnt he got in some decent crosses, just check the highlights.
Sometimes when we dont like a player as much as you do(jaybeck), we can be oblivious to anything good a player does, as i admit i was with Saha, i never took to him even when everyone was saying he was class...........-----------------
Just watch the 20 Min highlights and notice everytime Blackpool attacked Hibbert is out of posistion and relying on Heintinga or Gibbo to get into his posistion. The most notable incident is after Fellaini's shot was blocked off the line, Hibbert was nowhere near the attack and was nowhere near his posistion when defending making Gibbo drop into his posistion.
I'm telling you Hibbert is one of the worst RB's to have ever played at Everton he is absolutely useless -
Posts: 3,621February 20HOWIE8 said:
Hibbo- Right Back
Main job of a right back is to defend, he is the best tackling and defending right back weve had at the club since, erm erm erm Gary Stevens. His performance at Centre Back against City, who had Dzeko, Aguero, Silva et al, has to be one of the best defending jobs done this season.
Right Wing back- not Hibbo's position, but it has to be said, as has been said on another thread every time he overlapped Drenthe he was ignored, when he wasnt he got in some decent crosses, just check the highlights.
Sometimes when we dont like a player as much as you do(jaybeck), we can be oblivious to anything good a player does, as i admit i was with Saha, i never took to him even when everyone was saying he was class...........-----------------
Just watch the 20 Min highlights and notice everytime Blackpool attacked Hibbert is out of posistion and relying on Heintinga or Gibbo to get into his posistion. The most notable incident is after Fellaini's shot was blocked off the line, Hibbert was nowhere near the attack and was nowhere near his posistion when defending making Gibbo drop into his posistion.
I'm telling you Hibbert is one of the worst RB's to have ever played at Everton he is absolutely useless-----------------
He's not absolutely useless at all, as Howie said, he is the best tackler we have had at EFC for years. He is one of those players who can't do a thing right with some fans, and I don't understand why. He is a strong contender for player of the season in my opinion. -
Posts: 3,279February 20 How about going to the game( 90 mins not 20 mins) and see how often he gets Everton out the cart with last ditched blocks, tackles, and he is rarely skinned by a winger, in Ryan Giggs words the hardest defender he faces, Tony Hibbert. There again as i said its opinions, we sometimes see what we want to see, i just dont see what you do, and vise versa......
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Posts: 426February 20HOWIE8 said:
How about going to the game( 90 mins not 20 mins) and see how often he gets Everton out the cart with last ditched blocks, tackles, and he is rarely skinned by a winger, in Ryan Giggs words the hardest defender he faces, Tony Hibbert. There again as i said its opinions, we sometimes see what we want to see, i just dont see what you do, and vise versa......
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Romelu Lukak shoved him aside like a toothpick at the the Chelsea game, yes he's like 6 foot 5 and 15 stone but he beat Hibbert without any real effort.
I've only ever seen Hibbert make 5 tackles because by the time he gets close to a defender the balls already in the box. Funny how Baines is considered 1 of the best Left Backs in the world because he gets forward well and defends well, Baines also links play to create Danger. Hibbert is the exact opposite, doesn't attak with real prominence, regularly caught out of posistion and his man marking is appauling. No wonder Hibberts second choice RB behind Neville. Unfortunately for us we only have 2 RB's in Neville and Hibbert
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