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Only just seen Wigan's goal.
  • sambo applecart
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    Fluck me. We've had some right stinkers go against us this season. We should still be putting Wigan away granted. But crying out loud, the amounts of deflected goals that have done us this season, we wont get that many again in a season for a long time imo.
  • OldGoldenVision
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    can yer believe that people criticised Howard! 
  • sambo applecart
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    Its just a stinker mate, i cant really criticize, was just one of those freak things. i could say he was flat footed, but he couldnt really help being cos the ball was never going to head back on him until it spun like that, just completely caught everyone out.
  • OldGoldenVision
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    When I was watchin' the game I thought the pitch looked a bit sheet... Moyes actually commented on it later... Yer'd love a bounce like that in cricket!
  • sambo applecart
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    OldGoldenVision said:

    When I was watchin' the game I thought the pitch looked a bit sheet... Moyes actually commented on it later... Yer'd love a bounce like that in cricket!


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    the pitch was minging, thank fluck we dont have an Everton Evangelists rugby league team tearing it up every other week over winter.
  • OldGoldenVision
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    i dunno like, on occasion this season I 'ave wondered what am watchin...
  • sambo applecart
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    OldGoldenVision said:

    i dunno like, on occasion this season I 'ave wondered what am watchin...


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    i sometimes wonder what some people are watching mate cos 90% of the time we knock the ball around lovely and keep hold of it. we jsut dont do enough with it when we have it, thats all. 
  • OldGoldenVision
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    We do appear to have a touch a the batty's at times though... sideways and backwards... its like they're afraid to hit it forward... I was thinkin a Jags with that comment btw.. lol
  • sambo applecart
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    OldGoldenVision said:

    We do appear to have a touch a the batty's at times though... sideways and backwards... its like they're afraid to hit it forward... I was thinkin a Jags with that comment btw.. lol


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    if only jagss was like johnny!! lol
  • cjohno
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    OldGoldenVision said:

    can yer believe that people criticised Howard! 


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    watching it again howard should really do better than that, altho it took a bad bounce it went through his arms, he was to busy looking who he was going to throw the ball out to instead of keeping his eye on the ball.

  • tickets11
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    it was howards fault, how can he not save that.

    if that happened to any other team we would all be saying how **** the keeper is.

    He saw that it got deflected and it wasnt even coming at him with pace, It went through his hands ffs.


  • blue32years
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    I blame Gavrilo princip
  • OldGoldenVision
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    Did you not see the spin?
  • tickets11
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    yes I saw it question is why didnt howard.

    You can see the direction of the ball it was spinning.


    How can he save shots with swerve and dip on at 80mph but not collect a ball with a bit of spin that bobbles into the net.

  • OldGoldenVision
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    I'll be honest, i dont remember the last time i saw a football turn like that off the turf...
  • sambo applecart
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    i used to play in goal, to a reasonably high standard, and trust me, the way the ball span off the turf and wrong footed him, it was nigh in impossible for him to physically move his arms to grab the ball, it was that close to him, and the speed it happened, your brain does not have the reaction time to readjust either. And that is a fact, seeing something, and your brain reacting in time are 2 different things.
  • Toffee pie man 2
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    the pitch was minging, thank fluck we dont have an Everton Evangelists rugby league team tearing it up every other week over winter.

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    you cant put the blame on the rugby, wigan warriors haven't played on it since september and the new season only starts for them today. They train at orrell rugby union as Dave Whealen won't let them train on it so as no to ruin the surface!

    Imo ripping up and relaying the pitch once a year is the reason that its such an horrible playing surface they never give it time to bed in
  • sambo applecart
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    Toffee pie man 2 said:

    the pitch was minging, thank fluck we dont have an Everton Evangelists rugby league team tearing it up every other week over winter.


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    you cant put the blame on the rugby, wigan warriors haven't played on it since september and the new season only starts for them today. They train at orrell rugby union as Dave Whealen won't let them train on it so as no to ruin the surface!

    Imo ripping up and relaying the pitch once a year is the reason that its such an horrible playing surface they never give it time to bed in

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    sorry mate, i may be misunderstood, or worded what i said wrong, i wasnt meaning to blame the rugby, i was jsut trying to highlight the state of the pitch, rugby was the example cos i obviously didnt know they had turfed it up and relaid it for this year :)
  • Toffee pie man 2
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    not gettin at you pal, you just hear so many having a go at that pitch and blaming it on the rugby, just thought i would set the record straight. I don't think it does help playing 2 sports on it but I don't think that, that is the sole reason. They normally re-lay the surface around end of march early april but usually by the time the rugby finishes end of sep-early oct the pitch is normally still in good condition, thats why i feel it the constant relaying of it that is the main factor. Hull City and Hull F.C also groundshare and you don't see them have the same problems with their surface same with Reading and some rugby union side I forget which one. Anyway onwards and upwards we hopefully won't have to worry about that surface next year [-O<
  • sambo applecart
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    Toffee pie man 2 said:

    not gettin at you pal, you just hear so many having a go at that pitch and blaming it on the rugby, just thought i would set the record straight. I don't think it does help playing 2 sports on it but I don't think that, that is the sole reason. They normally re-lay the surface around end of march early april but usually by the time the rugby finishes end of sep-early oct the pitch is normally still in good condition, thats why i feel it the constant relaying of it that is the main factor. Hull City and Hull F.C also groundshare and you don't see them have the same problems with their surface same with Reading and some rugby union side I forget which one. Anyway onwards and upwards we hopefully won't have to worry about that surface next year [-O<


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    hhahahaha, fingers crossed mate! and i know you weren't getting at me, i was kind of trying to say that as yuo explained what it could be i understood better! lol
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