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Just baffles me...
  • OldGoldenVision
    Posts: 20,151
    You have drenthe who is a very attack minded player and you knock the spirit out of him by criticising his defensive play.

    Yoy have stracq who banged em in for fun in argentina and bring him to an admittedly harder league; then dont give him a run of games.

    You have tolos who is fresh and keen to impress. he scores more than saha and cahill combined; then drop him from the bench.

    You have barkley, a young kid with immense talent who shows flashes of brilliance and a couple of mistakes then drop him to the youth team.

    You have anichebe who is worse than awful; out injured for months; and yet he gets back to half fitness and walks straight into the team.

    You have saha who couldnt give a toss; and tells moyes when he wants to play; and he walks into the team.

    Those are not a lack of funds. those are poor decisions by the manager. yet week on week the manager trots out the same old team and the same old excuses; and the media continue to lap up davey moyes and the wonderful job he does on a limitef budget.

  • lukep08
    Posts: 309
    People waking up, the only thing that ive got sick of hearing more than "play billy in ths cahill role thats his best position" is "moyes has done well with no money". the man is a joke.
  • 11blue
    Posts: 4,765
    OldGoldenVision said:

    You have drenthe who is a very attack minded player and you knock the spirit out of him by criticising his defensive play.

    Yoy have stracq who banged em in for fun in argentina and bring him to an admittedly harder league; then dont give him a run of games.

    You have tolos who is fresh and keen to impress. he scores more than saha and cahill combined; then drop him from the bench.

    You have barkley, a young kid with immense talent who shows flashes of brilliance and a couple of mistakes then drop him to the youth team.

    You have anichebe who is worse than awful; out injured for months; and yet he gets back to half fitness and walks straight into the team.

    You have saha who couldnt give a toss; and tells moyes when he wants to play; and he walks into the team.

    Those are not a lack of funds. those are poor decisions by the manager. yet week on week the manager trots out the same old team and the same old excuses; and the media continue to lap up davey moyes and the wonderful job he does on a limitef budget.


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    Apart from this, its great to be a Blue!
  • Jay McD
    Posts: 1,206
    Said similar in a recent post and you really could add a lot to that list Goldie. Sorry moyes times up had enough.

    Please give me a reason to believe again
  • OldGoldenVision
    Posts: 20,151
    Problem is, a couple of wins and then people forget the negative team selections/tactics...
  • 11blue
    Posts: 4,765
    Its funny to think that 2 or 3 years ago he was a strong contender for the Manchester United job!
  • OldGoldenVision
    Posts: 20,151
    Just got back from footy where i had a moan about dm. theyre all villa/baggies/wolves and still think hes a shoe in for fergies job... oh how i did laugh
  • OldGoldenVision
    Posts: 20,151
    And remeber, it was dms choice to sell arteta. i didnt think we'd miss him. i was wrong.
  • 11blue
    Posts: 4,765
    OldGoldenVision said:

    Just got back from footy where i had a moan about dm. theyre all villa/baggies/wolves and still think hes a shoe in for fergies job... oh how i did laugh


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    Nobody else realises that he is currently frustrating many Evertonians with his team selections and tactics. Its probably because he always gets so hyped up in the media, but I could understand the hype better 2 or 3 years ago.
  • 11blue
    Posts: 4,765
    OldGoldenVision said:

    And remeber, it was dms choice to sell arteta. i didnt think we'd miss him. i was wrong.


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    Either did I, but maybe I was wrong, I just don't know and nobody knows. But I am happy to see Mikel doing well for Arsenal, as he has deserved to play to a big team given his loyalty and commitment to us over the years. 
  • Jay McD
    Posts: 1,206
    I'd love moyes to do great fantastic job if he moves on as I'm very grateful of his contribution and still hope he turns things round. I just don't see any sign of it, in fact it's depressing
  • 11blue
    Posts: 4,765
    He used to be one of the best managers in the league, he even won LMA Manager of the year about 4 times, but I can't see him winning that this year.
  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,753
    OldGoldenVision said:

    You have drenthe who is a very attack minded player and you knock the spirit out of him by criticising his defensive play.

    Yoy have stracq who banged em in for fun in argentina and bring him to an admittedly harder league; then dont give him a run of games.

    You have tolos who is fresh and keen to impress. he scores more than saha and cahill combined; then drop him from the bench.

    You have barkley, a young kid with immense talent who shows flashes of brilliance and a couple of mistakes then drop him to the youth team.

    You have anichebe who is worse than awful; out injured for months; and yet he gets back to half fitness and walks straight into the team.

    You have saha who couldnt give a toss; and tells moyes when he wants to play; and he walks into the team.

    Those are not a lack of funds. those are poor decisions by the manager. yet week on week the manager trots out the same old team and the same old excuses; and the media continue to lap up davey moyes and the wonderful job he does on a limitef budget.


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    I like the fact you've thought about this all weekend before posting! ;)
  • OldGoldenVision
    Posts: 20,151
    Well, you know what kidda, time to reflect and i feel more resolve now than yesterday that moyes has lost it.
  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,753
    OldGoldenVision said:

    Well, you know what kidda, time to reflect and i feel more resolve now than yesterday that moyes has lost it.


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    Im thinking he has lost the dressing room. The players just dont seem to be playing for him at the moment, and/or are sick of of playing the way they are.
  • OldGoldenVision
    Posts: 20,151
    I think there was a good team spirit when arteta was here but the likes of felli dont really look bothered.. that lad should be dragging us up
  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,753
    OldGoldenVision said:

    I think there was a good team spirit when arteta was here but the likes of felli dont really look bothered.. that lad should be dragging us up


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    yeah instead of dragging it down!
  • koolhandluke8
    Posts: 3,036
    OldGoldenVision said:

    I think there was a good team spirit when arteta was here but the likes of felli dont really look bothered.. that lad should be dragging us up



    dont know how you can say this OGV...you obviously weren't at the match on saturday where you would have seen him have a go at saha, neville,donavon and anichebe...
  • evertonemo73
    Posts: 0
    koolhandluke8 said:

    OldGoldenVision said:

    I think there was a good team spirit when arteta was here but the likes of felli dont really look bothered.. that lad should be dragging us up



    dont know how you can say this OGV...you obviously weren't at the match on saturday where you would have seen him have a go at saha, neville,donavon and anichebe...



    i was and i never thought i'd say this but if DM only wants to play a team thats there to contain other teams we should be beating then i think he's not the right man for the job anymore. the amount of players he has on the sidelines as OGV stated that for some reason he wont play is ridiculous.
    for starters he needs to get over what Cahill has done in the past and pick him on merit alone, he does not deserve his place anymore as he brings hardly anything to the team. drenthe and barkley look BANG UP for playing yet dont seem to fit into his plans. thank god he got rid of the YAK as his goal scoring days were behind him, how embarrassing.
    you need to sort out this mess DM before players likeBaines and Jags start to look elsewhere for a team thats going to give them a better and more prosperous future.
  • koolhandluke8
    Posts: 3,036
    evertonemo73 said:

    koolhandluke8 said:

    OldGoldenVision said:

    I think there was a good team spirit when arteta was here but the likes of felli dont really look bothered.. that lad should be dragging us up



    dont know how you can say this OGV...you obviously weren't at the match on saturday where you would have seen him have a go at saha, neville,donavon and anichebe...



    i was and i never thought i'd say this but if DM only wants to play a team thats there to contain other teams we should be beating then i think he's not the right man for the job anymore. the amount of players he has on the sidelines as OGV stated that for some reason he wont play is ridiculous.
    for starters he needs to get over what Cahill has done in the past and pick him on merit alone, he does not deserve his place anymore as he brings hardly anything to the team. drenthe and barkley look BANG UP for playing yet dont seem to fit into his plans. thank god he got rid of the YAK as his goal scoring days were behind him, how embarrassing.
    you need to sort out this mess DM before players likeBaines and Jags start to look elsewhere for a team thats going to give them a better and more prosperous future.



    dont disagree with what you're saying mate..but somewhat misses the point i was referring to which was OGV's point about fellaini "not being bothered" !!
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