IhateRS

Posts: 1,094

January 2012 I disagree with a few bits.
I have watched Everton for 50 years and I can honestly say that the
football we are currently being subjected to is the worst I have ever
seen us play

I reckon its about on par with the majority of the decade before Moyes arrived to be honest.

You have sold any flair players we’ve had and have claimed it has been
your decision to do so. Pienaar, Arteta, Yakubu (who apparently could
have gone to West Ham for a reported 6 million pounds and then was sold
for peanuts a few months later).

Arteta was very poor for us when he left and Moyes didn't sell him through choice, he threw in a transfer request, Pienaar had to go as he was just going to leave on a free and Yak was worse than Anichebe when he played. Poor examples.

A reported 14 million pound bid for Jagielka was rejected but you deemed 10 million to be enough for our best player.
Just a rumour, we were also offered 30mil for Rodwell, just because the internet says it, don't believe it to be true.. Also 14mil for Jags is about right and personally I would rather we kept him.

I'll be honest I gave up shortly after that but the bits in between were right, Beckford was a poor choice, extending Anichebe's contract was a poor choice, even though he is playing half decent, playing Cahill and Saha constantly when they are not scoring is a bad choice as well, despite Cahil's goal at the weekend.

tickets11

Posts: 1,002

January 2012

IhateRS said:

I disagree with a few bits.
I have watched Everton for 50 years and I can honestly say that the
football we are currently being subjected to is the worst I have ever
seen us play

I reckon its about on par with the majority of the decade before Moyes arrived to be honest.

You have sold any flair players we’ve had and have claimed it has been
your decision to do so. Pienaar, Arteta, Yakubu (who apparently could
have gone to West Ham for a reported 6 million pounds and then was sold
for peanuts a few months later).

Arteta was very poor for us when he left and Moyes didn't sell him through choice, he threw in a transfer request, Pienaar had to go as he was just going to leave on a free and Yak was worse than Anichebe when he played. Poor examples.

A reported 14 million pound bid for Jagielka was rejected but you deemed 10 million to be enough for our best player.
Just a rumour, we were also offered 30mil for Rodwell, just because the internet says it, don't believe it to be true.. Also 14mil for Jags is about right and personally I would rather we kept him.

I'll be honest I gave up shortly after that but the bits in between were right, Beckford was a poor choice, extending Anichebe's contract was a poor choice, even though he is playing half decent, playing Cahill and Saha constantly when they are not scoring is a bad choice as well, despite Cahil's goal at the weekend.

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arteta wasnt poor, he just wasnt carrying the team like he used to.  Its not his responsibility to go and win games single handedly.  Just because he wasnt at the same standard he was doesent make him poor.

his pass completion this season is only 2% below xavi and is the 6th best in europe.

10m, receiving 9m was a poor deal.  He threw in a transfer request yes, but we didnt have to accept it.  we already had enough money to cover the detbs from sales of pienaar, beckford and yak.

Part of the reason we are playing so poor is because arteta isnt there to get things moving in midfield.

Beano

Posts: 3,455

January 2012

tickets11 said:

IhateRS said:

I disagree with a few bits.
I have watched Everton for 50 years and I can honestly say that the
football we are currently being subjected to is the worst I have ever
seen us play

I reckon its about on par with the majority of the decade before Moyes arrived to be honest.

You have sold any flair players we’ve had and have claimed it has been
your decision to do so. Pienaar, Arteta, Yakubu (who apparently could
have gone to West Ham for a reported 6 million pounds and then was sold
for peanuts a few months later).

Arteta was very poor for us when he left and Moyes didn't sell him through choice, he threw in a transfer request, Pienaar had to go as he was just going to leave on a free and Yak was worse than Anichebe when he played. Poor examples.

A reported 14 million pound bid for Jagielka was rejected but you deemed 10 million to be enough for our best player.
Just a rumour, we were also offered 30mil for Rodwell, just because the internet says it, don't believe it to be true.. Also 14mil for Jags is about right and personally I would rather we kept him.

I'll be honest I gave up shortly after that but the bits in between were right, Beckford was a poor choice, extending Anichebe's contract was a poor choice, even though he is playing half decent, playing Cahill and Saha constantly when they are not scoring is a bad choice as well, despite Cahil's goal at the weekend.

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arteta wasnt poor, he just wasnt carrying the team like he used to.  Its not his responsibility to go and win games single handedly.  Just because he wasnt at the same standard he was doesent make him poor.

his pass completion this season is only 2% below xavi and is the 6th best in europe.

10m, receiving 9m was a poor deal.  He threw in a transfer request yes, but we didnt have to accept it.  we already had enough money to cover the detbs from sales of pienaar, beckford and yak.

Part of the reason we are playing so poor is because arteta isnt there to get things moving in midfield.

And when he didn't accept Lescott's transfer request, threw him into the team and lost 6-1, that was wrong too wasn't it!!