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Why... just why?
  • Warrington Dan
    Posts: 8,848
    How does Saha start every week? I'll even give credit to Sheitinga today I thought the lad had a good game as did Duffy. Neville was beyond sh|te today as well.

    There was a moment in the game that summed both Neville and Saha up. Saha's was when he tried to kick the ball back to Howard and kicked it into the dugout and Neville's was right after they scored and he tried to get down the wing a cross a ball in but fell flat on his @rse. 
  • guitargod17
    Posts: 99
    need to move coleman back to RB, Barkley out right, drenthe out left and anyone except for saha up top
  • HOWIE8
    Posts: 7,430
    We didnt lose, Duffy was excellent, Cahill scored, the RS got stuffed by Bolton and yet i still feel despondent.........
  • Warrington Dan
    Posts: 8,848
    guitargod17 said:

    need to move coleman back to RB, Barkley out right, drenthe out left and anyone except for saha up top


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    I've questioned Coleman's defending at times but I'm certain it can't be worse then Neville's. On multiple occasions today Neville struggled with a simple 5 yard pass. He's just not good enough any more. 
  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,105
    I'll tell you why Dan, and this will be controversial, however, as bad as Saha is, a bad Saha, is better than any other striker we have. I know it seems im talking cack, but its true mate, the other strikers are nothing but championship players at best imo, as much as i would like them to be more, they wont be, you can see it in them already. 
  • Beano
    Posts: 3,247
    sambo applecart said:

    I'll tell you why Dan, and this will be controversial, however, as bad as Saha is, a bad Saha, is better than any other striker we have. I know it seems im talking cack, but its true mate, the other strikers are nothing but championship players at best imo, as much as i would like them to be more, they wont be, you can see it in them already. 


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    I don't think it's as contraversial as you think. Some will disagree, but I don't.

    Saha is now a championship striker at best also. But he's still the only option. Vellios will hopefully become more, but he's not there yet. Same with McAleny.

    I really think one player will make a massive difference to us - If we can get a PL experienced striker from somewhere for next to nothing!
  • Warrington Dan
    Posts: 8,848
    Beano said:

    sambo applecart said:

    I'll tell you why Dan, and this will be controversial, however, as bad as Saha is, a bad Saha, is better than any other striker we have. I know it seems im talking cack, but its true mate, the other strikers are nothing but championship players at best imo, as much as i would like them to be more, they wont be, you can see it in them already. 


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    I don't think it's as contraversial as you think. Some will disagree, but I don't.

    Saha is now a championship striker at best also. But he's still the only option. Vellios will hopefully become more, but he's not there yet. Same with McAleny.

    I really think one player will make a massive difference to us - If we can get a PL experienced striker from somewhere for next to nothing!

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    I disagree with both of ya. I think if Vellios can actually get a run of games and build his confidence he could become a good goal poacher. I know you're just going to criticise the lad because he's started twice and didn't played well when he's started but you've got to remember that's only 2 games. Either way Saha hasn't scored since the 26th of October against Chelsea in the Carling cup and he's been 1st choice ever since. I think it's time for change! 
  • Probus
    Posts: 414
    Beano said:

    sambo applecart said:

    I'll tell you why Dan, and this will be controversial, however, as bad as Saha is, a bad Saha, is better than any other striker we have. I know it seems im talking cack, but its true mate, the other strikers are nothing but championship players at best imo, as much as i would like them to be more, they wont be, you can see it in them already. 


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    I don't think it's as contraversial as you think. Some will disagree, but I don't.

    Saha is now a championship striker at best also. But he's still the only option. Vellios will hopefully become more, but he's not there yet. Same with McAleny.

    I really think one player will make a massive difference to us - If we can get a PL experienced striker from somewhere for next to nothing!

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    So why not let Vellios get a run and more experience. He is then our future striker. Saha's contract expires after this season and he is on his way out.
  • Beano
    Posts: 3,247
    Probus said:

    Beano said:

    sambo applecart said:

    I'll tell you why Dan, and this will be controversial, however, as bad as Saha is, a bad Saha, is better than any other striker we have. I know it seems im talking cack, but its true mate, the other strikers are nothing but championship players at best imo, as much as i would like them to be more, they wont be, you can see it in them already. 


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    I don't think it's as contraversial as you think. Some will disagree, but I don't.

    Saha is now a championship striker at best also. But he's still the only option. Vellios will hopefully become more, but he's not there yet. Same with McAleny.

    I really think one player will make a massive difference to us - If we can get a PL experienced striker from somewhere for next to nothing!

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    So why not let Vellios get a run and more experience. He is then our future striker. Saha's contract expires after this season and he is on his way out.

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    Moyes' comments about dropping Vellios after his start against Norwich suggested to me that his performance in that game had severely knocked him. Continuing to play someone who is in that frame of mind isn't giving him experience, it's destroying him!
  • Warrington Dan
    Posts: 8,848
    Beano said:

    Probus said:

    Beano said:

    sambo applecart said:

    I'll tell you why Dan, and this will be controversial, however, as bad as Saha is, a bad Saha, is better than any other striker we have. I know it seems im talking cack, but its true mate, the other strikers are nothing but championship players at best imo, as much as i would like them to be more, they wont be, you can see it in them already. 


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    I don't think it's as contraversial as you think. Some will disagree, but I don't.

    Saha is now a championship striker at best also. But he's still the only option. Vellios will hopefully become more, but he's not there yet. Same with McAleny.

    I really think one player will make a massive difference to us - If we can get a PL experienced striker from somewhere for next to nothing!

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    So why not let Vellios get a run and more experience. He is then our future striker. Saha's contract expires after this season and he is on his way out.

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    Moyes' comments about dropping Vellios after his start against Norwich suggested to me that his performance in that game had severely knocked him. Continuing to play someone who is in that frame of mind isn't giving him experience, it's destroying him!

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    Why is Saha playing then?
  • Beano
    Posts: 3,247
    Warrington Dan said:

    Beano said:

    Probus said:

    Beano said:

    sambo applecart said:

    I'll tell you why Dan, and this will be controversial, however, as bad as Saha is, a bad Saha, is better than any other striker we have. I know it seems im talking cack, but its true mate, the other strikers are nothing but championship players at best imo, as much as i would like them to be more, they wont be, you can see it in them already. 


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    I don't think it's as contraversial as you think. Some will disagree, but I don't.

    Saha is now a championship striker at best also. But he's still the only option. Vellios will hopefully become more, but he's not there yet. Same with McAleny.

    I really think one player will make a massive difference to us - If we can get a PL experienced striker from somewhere for next to nothing!

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    So why not let Vellios get a run and more experience. He is then our future striker. Saha's contract expires after this season and he is on his way out.

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    Moyes' comments about dropping Vellios after his start against Norwich suggested to me that his performance in that game had severely knocked him. Continuing to play someone who is in that frame of mind isn't giving him experience, it's destroying him!

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    Why is Saha playing then?

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    Saha has no future to destroy.
    His career is finished!
  • 11blue
    Posts: 4,668
    sambo applecart said:

    I'll tell you why Dan, and this will be controversial, however, as bad as Saha is, a bad Saha, is better than any other striker we have. I know it seems im talking cack, but its true mate, the other strikers are nothing but championship players at best imo, as much as i would like them to be more, they wont be, you can see it in them already. 



    I see what our are saying Sambo, I agree that we have very poor strikers, but I am convinced that ANYONE of our strikers could do better than Saha. Saha looks finished and his confidence looks really low, and he doesn't even look like scoring.
  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,105
    11blue said:

    sambo applecart said:

    I'll tell you why Dan, and this will be controversial, however, as bad as Saha is, a bad Saha, is better than any other striker we have. I know it seems im talking cack, but its true mate, the other strikers are nothing but championship players at best imo, as much as i would like them to be more, they wont be, you can see it in them already. 



    I see what our are saying Sambo, I agree that we have very poor strikers, but I am convinced that ANYONE of our strikers could do better than Saha. Saha looks finished and his confidence looks really low, and he doesn't even look like scoring.

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    Vellios doesnt run into the channels, he hasnt a footballing brain to make space, neither has Anichebe, that leaves us with, er, Straq, who holds the ball up ok, and gets up for flick ons but shows little of anything else. On top of that, NOBODY ELSE looks like scoring either. We need something and we need something before the end of the month, cos none of the said people OR Mcfadden are the answer.
  • zagan
    Posts: 4,695
    sambo applecart said:

    I'll tell you why Dan, and this will be controversial, however, as bad as Saha is, a bad Saha, is better than any other striker we have. I know it seems im talking cack, but its true mate, the other strikers are nothing but championship players at best imo, as much as i would like them to be more, they wont be, you can see it in them already. 


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    It don't seem like your talking cack........you are talking cack mate! lol

    Sahahahaha offers NOTHING, not a fooking thing! 
    Couldn't score in a brothel full of blind women!
    Couldn't hit a barn door if driving towards it in a tractor!
    Can't hold the ball up! 
    First touch is awful!
    His "attempted" runs are woeful!
    And can't even take a player on!

    The bloke may as well NOT be on the pitch and we play with 10men.....he's invisible! 


    Fact is, if we played another striker instead of him, I'm 99.9999999% sure they would have 100% more impact on the game than that absolute waste of space.....


  • Warrington Dan
    Posts: 8,848
    I can't remember the last time I saw Saha get the ball and NOT completely f*ck up his first touch. He offers less then nothing 
  • Moke
    Posts: 68
    And so say all of us
  • mikraz
    Posts: 2,154
    I'm with Dan and zagan on this one, Louis is finished and offers nothing, we might as well start with a headless chicken it would still have more direction and purpose than saha.
  • scottinfrance139347
    Posts: 2,310
    more of moyes tactics, i just hope this isnt mid table obscurity from now on
  • cjohno
    Posts: 5,105
    scottinfrance139347 said:

    more of moyes tactics, i just hope this isnt mid table obscurity from now on


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    i would be happy with midtable obscurity at the moment mate.
  • miditheblue
    Posts: 4
    Fear not people. We may have Edson Buddle in soon.
  • scottinfrance139347
    Posts: 2,310
    cjohno said:

    scottinfrance139347 said:

    more of moyes tactics, i just hope this isnt mid table obscurity from now on


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    i would be happy with midtable obscurity at the moment mate.

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    i`d be happy with relagation, the manager is takin the pss and the players dont give a sht
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