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Posts: 5,105August 2011 first time ever i want him to go, he proved today with that team selection hes deluded or just a total ****, and i would go for the 2nd selection hes took the **** out of us today, bye moyes bye you made a **** out of us today
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Posts: 2,513August 2011 I'd give him until the middle of October and then assess it..... I haven't seen the game, nor do I want to, but all I know is losing to a team that got beat by BOLTON on their OWN turf isn't acceptable, so had a bit of doubt for the first time myself this weekend, BUT I don't think we should be writing him off just yet..... Give it six games I reckon and THEN judge.
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Posts: 5,105August 2011AndyForsyth said:
I'd give him until the middle of October and then assess it..... I haven't seen the game, nor do I want to, but all I know is losing to a team that got beat by BOLTON on their OWN turf isn't acceptable, so had a bit of doubt for the first time myself this weekend, BUT I don't think we should be writing him off just yet..... Give it six games I reckon and THEN judge.
the last 2 years hes had more than 6 games from the start of the season and hes survived as manager, he would of been sacked by any other club with his starts in the first 3/4 months of the season, never seen a more unprepared unproffessional team at the start of a season, and thats all down to moyes.
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Posts: 2,513August 2011 But we all know it's unlikely that he will be sacked straight away, so I think this is his last chance now to get us up and running at the start of the season. We can't afford to let what happened yesterday happen again. Six games and if we haven't won at least four of those, and I'm talking in terms of league games, then maybe look at the situation. I think we SHOULD win four of those, the last of the six are Chelsea and RS so a tougher couple of games but I can't see why we couldn't at least draw against them.....
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Posts: 5,105August 2011AndyForsyth said:
But we all know it's unlikely that he will be sacked straight away, so I think this is his last chance now to get us up and running at the start of the season. We can't afford to let what happened yesterday happen again. Six games and if we haven't won at least four of those, and I'm talking in terms of league games, then maybe look at the situation. I think we SHOULD win four of those, the last of the six are Chelsea and RS so a tougher couple of games but I can't see why we couldn't at least draw against them.....
we should win 4 of those games!!! we had the worst team ive seen in the prem ever at home and we lost how the hell we gonna beat these other teams, we said all this the start of the last 2 seasons and nothings changed
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Posts: 2,513August 2011 Blackburn, Wigan, Villa and City. Why shouldn't we beat those sides? We always seem to do well against City, Villa's a slightly harder game but it's at home where we should beat them, Wigan we can beat, Blackburn are on the struggle..... That's what I'm basing it on, and as I did emphasise, we SHOULD win them.
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Posts: 1,230August 2011 dm can only do so much without funds you say sack him and just who do u think is going to replace him we have one of the best in dm if you want to blame anyone then look no further than the board.
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Posts: 5,105August 2011bluetouch said:
dm can only do so much without funds you say sack him and just who do u think is going to replace him we have one of the best in dm if you want to blame anyone then look no further than the board.
with the players hes got available(only coleman and gueye injured) he cant beat one of the poorest teams in the prem at home and you blame the board for the team being so under prepared and unproffesional? lol , sorry doesnt matter that hes signed no players QPR had same team that they had in the championship, they even had 3 players playing with a virus which sideline 4 of there players and we still couldnt beat them, they havent spent anything either. oh sorry 1 mill they spent lol.
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Posts: 1,002August 2011
the problem was mentoined on MOTD yesterday.
we have been overachieving for so long now people have got used to it and now expect it every season.
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Posts: 5,105August 2011 whether weve been over achieving for years, thats still no excuse for putting out a team that was so under prepared and unproffessional, can take losing if we at least give it a go, we never had a plan A never mind a plan B. just no excuse for that yesterday none whatsoever, never seen so many players looking clueless and confused on a football pitch in my life
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Posts: 258August 2011 Moyes tactics were shocking yesterday - whats he on £3million a year and he puts a team out like that. So dont have any sympaty for him - Im sure he will be fine.
Why was Fellani and Arteta on the bench better to start them than bring them on and they then break down if not fully fit.
Why was Rodwell on the right when alls he does is go to his right - why did Cahill end up playing in front of the back four.
A simple question imagine Fellani playing against Osman in midfield - Osman wouldnt get a touch - Yet hes picked over Fellani in centre midfield.
Instead of crying on MOTD that he doesnt have wingers or forwards instead explain why he had 2 of the "Untouchables" sitting on the bench.
Moyes out - for me - hes put us in a relegation battle already - yesterday was unforgivable. What must Arteta and Fellina think!
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Posts: 137August 2011tickets11 said:
the problem was mentoined on MOTD yesterday.
we have been overachieving for so long now people have got used to it and now expect it every season.
I don't believe that for a minute. We have a good enough squad, only last pre season we we're being hyped up to finish in a champions league place. (and not just by the fans). A long shot maybe, but those predictions were based on the current crop of players (Ross not included).
The powers that be at our club have let things go stale. No new faces in hardly motivates the lads. There is no fear of being dropped. Complacency has set in. If it stays this way we are in trouble. We are in serious danger of Under achieving....Tactics and formations are also stale.....BK & DM need to take a good hard look at the way they're running this club... -
Posts: 235August 2011 If Moyes went now what do ppl really think will happen to us, we have NO money for any other manager to do anything and if Moyes went then I bet a pound to a pinch of $hit we can wave goodbye to half the team
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Posts: 60August 2011Allseeingeye said:
Moyes tactics were shocking yesterday - whats he on £3million a year and he puts a team out like that. So dont have any sympaty for him - Im sure he will be fine.
Why was Fellani and Arteta on the bench better to start them than bring them on and they then break down if not fully fit.
Why was Rodwell on the right when alls he does is go to his right - why did Cahill end up playing in front of the back four.
A simple question imagine Fellani playing against Osman in midfield - Osman wouldnt get a touch - Yet hes picked over Fellani in centre midfield.
Instead of crying on MOTD that he doesnt have wingers or forwards instead explain why he had 2 of the "Untouchables" sitting on the bench.
Moyes out - for me - hes put us in a relegation battle already - yesterday was unforgivable. What must Arteta and Fellina think!
Paul M
What a load of rubbish, we have played 1 game in the season and your saying he has put us in a relegation battle.. get a grip -
Posts: 8,706August 2011ScouseBlues said:
If Moyes went now what do ppl really think will happen to us, we have NO money for any other manager to do anything and if Moyes went then I bet a pound to a pinch of $hit we can wave goodbye to half the team
I'd be happy with this
New manager sell Felli,Jags to raise 30mill for new players.
The new manager maybe able to get the best out of players who are now playing in a comfort zone.
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Posts: 43August 2011 i think Moyes should have sold felli, jags Billy and heiti as soon as the transfer window opened. Flogged them, got the cash and started to rebuild a little.
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Posts: 8,706August 2011lisa2blonde said:
i think Moyes should have sold felli, jags Billy and heiti as soon as the transfer window opened. Flogged them, got the cash and started to rebuild a little.
Jags should have gone last season.
But i can't agree on selling Heitinga
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Posts: 133August 2011lisa2blonde said:
i think Moyes should have sold felli, jags Billy and heiti as soon as the transfer window opened. Flogged them, got the cash and started to rebuild a little.
where were the bids for these 3 players that would recoup the outlay or even make a profit ?
cant even sell yak or yobo for low fees because the transfer market is very poor due to teams not having money to spend (excluding the rich teams who wouldnt want them players anyway) , easy to say sell but we need buyers.
but if we did sell how much would be reinvested in players compared to pay off debt , maybe a 3rd which wouldnt be enough to replace with better players IMO.
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Posts: 299August 2011
You got to put yesterdays game in context.
Everton first game of the season was cancelled. Thats got to disrupt everything within the camp. We just have to see how Spurs get on, although they did play Europe. Having no new signing DM mixed it up yesterday and didn't chance some players not fully fit in a game everyone expected us to win. He got it wrong, badly wrong but its 1 game and people are calling for his head?
QPR got hopped at home on their 1st game back in the PL, they were never going to get beat like that again the next day.
They got a new owner this week, who has money and backs the manager. That's going to lift the whole club.
Its a poor start to the season. Shock, horror.
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