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Everton's Future
  • mattyod
    Posts: 305
    If you were Moyes with the current team and you decided it was time to buld a team that will compete over the next 3 years what current players would you consider:

    1. Key Every week players:
    2. Deadwood and not part of plans after this summer:
    3. Youth players you would hope to become regulars:
    4. Current loan players you would like to make permenant:
    5. Sqaud Player that you feel would keep the bench strong.
  • jaybeck
    Posts: 606
    He's definately focussing on youth players he's introduced a lot of young players since hes been here. but if i was moyes i'd keep doing what he's doing trying to get the best out of his current squad and wait for the increasingly unlikely investor we've been in search for.
  • mattyod
    Posts: 305
    1. Key Every week players: Howard, Jags, Heitinga, Baines, Felliani, Rodwell, Gibson, Coleman
    2. Deadwood and not part of plans after this summer: Hibbert, Neville, Cahill, Saha, Billy, McFadden
    3. Youth players you would hope to become regulars: Gueye, Vellios, Barkley, Duffy, McAleny
    4. Current loan players you would like to make permenant: Drenthe and Donovan
    5. Sqaud Player that you feel would keep the bench strong. Osman, Anichebe, Distin (for one more season)

    To get in some money I would probably look to off load one of Felliani or Rodwell as they are 2 of our biggest assets and I don't think we can play them together or afford to have one warming the bench.
  • tickets11
    Posts: 1,002

    Moyes wont be here for the next 3 years.  He said a few years ago he has a 5 year plan this was back in 2008, coincidentally his contract also runs out in 2013.


    These last 3 years (this season included) have killed any chance moyes had of managing any bigger teams.  all of his previous years wont count for much, thats the thing about football, no one cares about how you were 4 or 5 years ago its about what your doing now.

    weve been slowly going backwards these lat few years, it was only 3 seasons ago when we were finishing 12 points ahead of spurs, now look at the difference between the 2 teams.

  • mattyod
    Posts: 305
    We can't afford to wait for the big investor we are all hoping for and the likelihood is that if BK does sell the squad will see little off it.

    We have got a good youth system and need to start looking to building within our means. The signing of I believe was what we need and hopefully we will see a fresh striker at the club. Whether it is Moyes or someone new we still need to build the squad.
  • tickets11
    Posts: 1,002
    mattyod said:

    We can't afford to wait for the big investor we are all hoping for and the likelihood is that if BK does sell the squad will see little off it.

    We have got a good youth system and need to start looking to building within our means. The signing of I believe was what we need and hopefully we will see a fresh striker at the club. Whether it is Moyes or someone new we still need to build the squad.


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    honestly I dont think Moyes will be thinking of it like that, If he is to leave when his contract is up next season, he will want the best possible squad.

    i think he may give distin and saha a 1 year deal rather then bring through the youth.

    the team after moyes leaves wont be his responsibility,


    i can see why moyes signed a contract extension back in 2008, as it was likely at some point we would get some sort of investment, and at the time the we were looking to build a new stadium in kirby on top of that he still had key players like lescott, arteta and pienaar.  but now I dont think theres anything to stay for.

  • Beano
    Posts: 3,267
    mattyod said:

    1. Key Every week players: Howard, Jags, Heitinga, Baines, Felliani, Rodwell, Gibson, Coleman
    2. Deadwood and not part of plans after this summer: Hibbert, Neville, Cahill, Saha, Billy, McFadden
    3. Youth players you would hope to become regulars: Gueye, Vellios, Barkley, Duffy, McAleny
    4. Current loan players you would like to make permenant: Drenthe and Donovan
    5. Sqaud Player that you feel would keep the bench strong. Osman, Anichebe, Distin (for one more season)

    To get in some money I would probably look to off load one of Felliani or Rodwell as they are 2 of our biggest assets and I don't think we can play them together or afford to have one warming the bench.



    That's a pretty reasonable answer (altho I have never been sure about Drenthe and after Saturday, I'm even less sure)

    Although that squad we'd be left with would need a huge injection of cash even AFTER signing Donovan and Drenthe if we were to sign them! And even if ALL of Duffy, Barkley, Gueyu, McAleny and Vellios were players that would make some impact on the 2012/13 season (and those are big If's)

    The reality is that Moyes probably has no choice but to keep the likes of Cahill, Hibbert etc

    Interesting that Jan Mucha has been completely forgotten by the way. Lets hope nothing ever happens to Howard
  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,188
    tickets11 said:

    mattyod said:

    We can't afford to wait for the big investor we are all hoping for and the likelihood is that if BK does sell the squad will see little off it.

    We have got a good youth system and need to start looking to building within our means. The signing of I believe was what we need and hopefully we will see a fresh striker at the club. Whether it is Moyes or someone new we still need to build the squad.


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    honestly I dont think Moyes will be thinking of it like that, If he is to leave when his contract is up next season, he will want the best possible squad.

    i think he may give distin and saha a 1 year deal rather then bring through the youth.

    the team after moyes leaves wont be his responsibility,


    i can see why moyes signed a contract extension back in 2008, as it was likely at some point we would get some sort of investment, and at the time the we were looking to build a new stadium in kirby on top of that he still had key players like lescott, arteta and pienaar.  but now I dont think theres anything to stay for.


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    I can give you one big fat reason why mate, its 3million quid a year, and before you say it, money talks in every way of life, do you think he is going to manage Celtic for 500k a year?? I would happily bet, that the only manager that is better paid in the United KIngdom is Sir Alex, and the power and pull of money, especially in this day and age with how football has become, counts for MORE than winning trophies etc, or at least on a par with. 
  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,188
    Beano said:

    mattyod said:

    1. Key Every week players: Howard, Jags, Heitinga, Baines, Felliani, Rodwell, Gibson, Coleman
    2. Deadwood and not part of plans after this summer: Hibbert, Neville, Cahill, Saha, Billy, McFadden
    3. Youth players you would hope to become regulars: Gueye, Vellios, Barkley, Duffy, McAleny
    4. Current loan players you would like to make permenant: Drenthe and Donovan
    5. Sqaud Player that you feel would keep the bench strong. Osman, Anichebe, Distin (for one more season)

    To get in some money I would probably look to off load one of Felliani or Rodwell as they are 2 of our biggest assets and I don't think we can play them together or afford to have one warming the bench.



    That's a pretty reasonable answer (altho I have never been sure about Drenthe and after Saturday, I'm even less sure)

    Although that squad we'd be left with would need a huge injection of cash even AFTER signing Donovan and Drenthe if we were to sign them! And even if ALL of Duffy, Barkley, Gueyu, McAleny and Vellios were players that would make some impact on the 2012/13 season (and those are big If's)

    The reality is that Moyes probably has no choice but to keep the likes of Cahill, Hibbert etc

    Interesting that Jan Mucha has been completely forgotten by the way. Lets hope nothing ever happens to Howard

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    tell me who has more assists than him in the squad this season beano??? 
  • tickets11
    Posts: 1,002
    sambo applecart said:

    tickets11 said:

    mattyod said:

    We can't afford to wait for the big investor we are all hoping for and the likelihood is that if BK does sell the squad will see little off it.

    We have got a good youth system and need to start looking to building within our means. The signing of I believe was what we need and hopefully we will see a fresh striker at the club. Whether it is Moyes or someone new we still need to build the squad.


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    honestly I dont think Moyes will be thinking of it like that, If he is to leave when his contract is up next season, he will want the best possible squad.

    i think he may give distin and saha a 1 year deal rather then bring through the youth.

    the team after moyes leaves wont be his responsibility,


    i can see why moyes signed a contract extension back in 2008, as it was likely at some point we would get some sort of investment, and at the time the we were looking to build a new stadium in kirby on top of that he still had key players like lescott, arteta and pienaar.  but now I dont think theres anything to stay for.


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    I can give you one big fat reason why mate, its 3million quid a year, and before you say it, money talks in every way of life, do you think he is going to manage Celtic for 500k a year?? I would happily bet, that the only manager that is better paid in the United KIngdom is Sir Alex, and the power and pull of money, especially in this day and age with how football has become, counts for MORE than winning trophies etc, or at least on a par with. 

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    doubt it, moyes has racked up enough money while he has been here, he must of earnt at least 20m since he has been here, plus money from his playing days. 

    you have to remember he is nearly 50 years old, and doesent seem like the kind of person who would pi33 away money.

    same as ferguson, he stays in football because he loves the game not because of the money.

    the likes of robbie keane, henry and donavon could all be sitting on beaches right now relaxing, but there back playing football, I doubt there coming back just for a few grand.



  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,188
    tickets11 said:

    sambo applecart said:

    tickets11 said:

    mattyod said:

    We can't afford to wait for the big investor we are all hoping for and the likelihood is that if BK does sell the squad will see little off it.

    We have got a good youth system and need to start looking to building within our means. The signing of I believe was what we need and hopefully we will see a fresh striker at the club. Whether it is Moyes or someone new we still need to build the squad.


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    honestly I dont think Moyes will be thinking of it like that, If he is to leave when his contract is up next season, he will want the best possible squad.

    i think he may give distin and saha a 1 year deal rather then bring through the youth.

    the team after moyes leaves wont be his responsibility,


    i can see why moyes signed a contract extension back in 2008, as it was likely at some point we would get some sort of investment, and at the time the we were looking to build a new stadium in kirby on top of that he still had key players like lescott, arteta and pienaar.  but now I dont think theres anything to stay for.


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    I can give you one big fat reason why mate, its 3million quid a year, and before you say it, money talks in every way of life, do you think he is going to manage Celtic for 500k a year?? I would happily bet, that the only manager that is better paid in the United KIngdom is Sir Alex, and the power and pull of money, especially in this day and age with how football has become, counts for MORE than winning trophies etc, or at least on a par with. 

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    doubt it, moyes has racked up enough money while he has been here, he must of earnt at least 20m since he has been here, plus money from his playing days. 

    you have to remember he is nearly 50 years old, and doesent seem like the kind of person who would pi33 away money.

    same as ferguson, he stays in football because he loves the game not because of the money.

    the likes of robbie keane, henry and donavon could all be sitting on beaches right now relaxing, but there back playing football, I doubt there coming back just for a few grand.




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    so in that theory then mate, Rooney in the next 3 years will have racked up enough money (AND ENOUGH TROPHIES), so he will be happy coming back to play for Everton on 50k a week for the last 3 or 4 years of his career??
  • tickets11
    Posts: 1,002

    rooney different, he is a player, whose career will be finished in his 30's hence he is after as much money as possible.

    he spends a lot of money, he owns a 5m house in the carribean, and a mansion here in england aswell so he needs to money as thats the sort of life he lives.

    also rooney is 25, moyes is nearly 50, I doubt you will see moyes going out with his mates splashing  tens of thousands of pounds in 1 night.


    I can almost guarantee you Moyes has invested his money wisley, wouldnt surprise me if he is still spending money from his playing days.

  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,188
    tickets11 said:

    rooney different, he is a player, whose career will be finished in his 30's hence he is after as much money as possible.

    he spends a lot of money, he owns a 5m house in the carribean, and a mansion here in england aswell so he needs to money as thats the sort of life he lives.

    also rooney is 25, moyes is nearly 50, I doubt you will see moyes going out with his mates splashing  tens of thousands of pounds in 1 night.


    I can almost guarantee you Moyes has invested his money wisley, wouldnt surprise me if he is still spending money from his playing days.


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    I dont think it is different, cos i have it on reasonably good authority that he wants to see the last few years of his career out here... ;)

    As for Moyes, ive no doubt he will leave in the next few years, but it wont be too anybody else apart from ManU, Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs or Man City, he will only consider going to Celtic at the back end of his managerial career, so that wont happen any time soon for me, and when he does eventually go, i will wish him all the best, cos he has done a very good job over the years for us, brought us stability after years scrapping relegation, he has jsut fallen unlucky for in that he is managing in the premier league years when it is all about big money ttransfers and wages, if he had been managing us in the 80's he would have won trophies thats for sure. 
  • tickets11
    Posts: 1,002

    none of those teams you have mentioned will want him, we have been in decline the last 3 years, as a manager its what you do now, not what you did half a decade ago.


    as a manager he still makes some major mistakes as doesent appear to have learnt from them despite being here 10 years

    I think he will take the celtic job, scotland job, or work abroad.  no way will any of the top teams in england take a risk on him, he is still unproven in many areas of his game.  theres no shame in that, martin o neil took on the celtic job and had success there, and he is rated as a great manager.


    and on rooney he will go where the money is, I hear clubs in china or russia are paying players 200-300k a week to play there,


    None of the top 5 teams will take on a manager who hasnt won anything

  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,188
    tickets11 said:

    none of those teams you have mentioned will want him, we have been in decline the last 3 years, as a manager its what you do now, not what you did half a decade ago.


    as a manager he still makes some major mistakes as doesent appear to have learnt from them despite being here 10 years

    I think he will take the celtic job, scotland job, or work abroad.  no way will any of the top teams in england take a risk on him, he is still unproven in many areas of his game.  theres no shame in that, martin o neil took on the celtic job and had success there, and he is rated as a great manager.


    and on rooney he will go where the money is, I hear clubs in china or russia are paying players 200-300k a week to play there,


    None of the top 5 teams will take on a manager who hasnt won anything


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    so he will still be here in 5 years for me mate :)....as for Rooney, i think your wrong, but only time will tell ;)
  • Beano
    Posts: 3,267
    sambo applecart said:

    Beano said:

    mattyod said:

    1. Key Every week players: Howard, Jags, Heitinga, Baines, Felliani, Rodwell, Gibson, Coleman
    2. Deadwood and not part of plans after this summer: Hibbert, Neville, Cahill, Saha, Billy, McFadden
    3. Youth players you would hope to become regulars: Gueye, Vellios, Barkley, Duffy, McAleny
    4. Current loan players you would like to make permenant: Drenthe and Donovan
    5. Sqaud Player that you feel would keep the bench strong. Osman, Anichebe, Distin (for one more season)

    To get in some money I would probably look to off load one of Felliani or Rodwell as they are 2 of our biggest assets and I don't think we can play them together or afford to have one warming the bench.



    That's a pretty reasonable answer (altho I have never been sure about Drenthe and after Saturday, I'm even less sure)

    Although that squad we'd be left with would need a huge injection of cash even AFTER signing Donovan and Drenthe if we were to sign them! And even if ALL of Duffy, Barkley, Gueyu, McAleny and Vellios were players that would make some impact on the 2012/13 season (and those are big If's)

    The reality is that Moyes probably has no choice but to keep the likes of Cahill, Hibbert etc

    Interesting that Jan Mucha has been completely forgotten by the way. Lets hope nothing ever happens to Howard

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    tell me who has more assists than him in the squad this season beano??? 

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    Nobody!
    So what?
    Cahill has has the second highest but most people would be happy to see him dropped!

    I can reverse the question and ask which of our own players caused us most problems with villa on Saturday! Drenthe!! Hense him being taken off.

    The fact that we've got virtually no other creative player makes Drenthe seem more worth while for next season than he otherwise would be! He's untidy and carelss on the ball and now into the second half of the season, we've only got a combined total of 7 full matches out of him when you add up all the minutes. He's always sick or injured! There just may be better out there in the Summer for the wages he's likely to want to stay here considering how hard up we are financially!

    You should never have a closed mind! :P

  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,188
    Beano said:

    sambo applecart said:

    Beano said:

    mattyod said:

    1. Key Every week players: Howard, Jags, Heitinga, Baines, Felliani, Rodwell, Gibson, Coleman
    2. Deadwood and not part of plans after this summer: Hibbert, Neville, Cahill, Saha, Billy, McFadden
    3. Youth players you would hope to become regulars: Gueye, Vellios, Barkley, Duffy, McAleny
    4. Current loan players you would like to make permenant: Drenthe and Donovan
    5. Sqaud Player that you feel would keep the bench strong. Osman, Anichebe, Distin (for one more season)

    To get in some money I would probably look to off load one of Felliani or Rodwell as they are 2 of our biggest assets and I don't think we can play them together or afford to have one warming the bench.



    That's a pretty reasonable answer (altho I have never been sure about Drenthe and after Saturday, I'm even less sure)

    Although that squad we'd be left with would need a huge injection of cash even AFTER signing Donovan and Drenthe if we were to sign them! And even if ALL of Duffy, Barkley, Gueyu, McAleny and Vellios were players that would make some impact on the 2012/13 season (and those are big If's)

    The reality is that Moyes probably has no choice but to keep the likes of Cahill, Hibbert etc

    Interesting that Jan Mucha has been completely forgotten by the way. Lets hope nothing ever happens to Howard

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    tell me who has more assists than him in the squad this season beano??? 

    -----------------


    Nobody!
    So what?
    Cahill has has the second highest but most people would be happy to see him dropped!

    I can reverse the question and ask which of our own players caused us most problems with villa on Saturday! Drenthe!! Hense him being taken off.

    The fact that we've got virtually no other creative player makes Drenthe seem more worth while for next season than he otherwise would be! He's untidy and carelss on the ball and now into the second half of the season, we've only got a combined total of 7 full matches out of him when you add up all the minutes. He's always sick or injured! There just may be better out there in the Summer for the wages he's likely to want to stay here considering how hard up we are financially!

    You should never have a closed mind! :P


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    i dont have a closed mind, you obviously do, cos with out him thats 7 less goals this season, he didnt have a good game on saturday, and your judging him on that, for you to say he's always injured or sick, means you have a closed mind cos your taking it as gospel thats what it actually is, when it could be something other than an injury or sickness, but al let you work that one out.

    And if theres somebody out there in the summer thats going to cost less than nothing, cos thats what he will be available for, then you go find them and bring them to Everton. 

    And as you've asked for it Mr Font of all Knowledge, turning round and asking the question 'so what'? means the topic of conversation has gotten away from you, cos you've stated something that has that many holes in there is nothing feasible to come back with!

    So in summary, before you start TELLING everybody that they are wrong, and because you dont agree with what they say then you are right, i would think a little before you jump on your high horse with your comebacks of 'so 'what'! 

    Apart from that, i dont mind reading your posts cos usually you have a reasonable opnion with regards football matters, but its the same as with Tickets, and the same as it is with me, none of us are right all the time! Thankyou for your time kind Sir and enjoy your evening 
    :X
  • Beano
    Posts: 3,267
    sambo applecart said:

    Beano said:

    sambo applecart said:

    Beano said:

    mattyod said:

    1. Key Every week players: Howard, Jags, Heitinga, Baines, Felliani, Rodwell, Gibson, Coleman
    2. Deadwood and not part of plans after this summer: Hibbert, Neville, Cahill, Saha, Billy, McFadden
    3. Youth players you would hope to become regulars: Gueye, Vellios, Barkley, Duffy, McAleny
    4. Current loan players you would like to make permenant: Drenthe and Donovan
    5. Sqaud Player that you feel would keep the bench strong. Osman, Anichebe, Distin (for one more season)

    To get in some money I would probably look to off load one of Felliani or Rodwell as they are 2 of our biggest assets and I don't think we can play them together or afford to have one warming the bench.



    That's a pretty reasonable answer (altho I have never been sure about Drenthe and after Saturday, I'm even less sure)

    Although that squad we'd be left with would need a huge injection of cash even AFTER signing Donovan and Drenthe if we were to sign them! And even if ALL of Duffy, Barkley, Gueyu, McAleny and Vellios were players that would make some impact on the 2012/13 season (and those are big If's)

    The reality is that Moyes probably has no choice but to keep the likes of Cahill, Hibbert etc

    Interesting that Jan Mucha has been completely forgotten by the way. Lets hope nothing ever happens to Howard

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    tell me who has more assists than him in the squad this season beano??? 

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    Nobody!
    So what?
    Cahill has has the second highest but most people would be happy to see him dropped!

    I can reverse the question and ask which of our own players caused us most problems with villa on Saturday! Drenthe!! Hense him being taken off.

    The fact that we've got virtually no other creative player makes Drenthe seem more worth while for next season than he otherwise would be! He's untidy and carelss on the ball and now into the second half of the season, we've only got a combined total of 7 full matches out of him when you add up all the minutes. He's always sick or injured! There just may be better out there in the Summer for the wages he's likely to want to stay here considering how hard up we are financially!

    You should never have a closed mind! :P


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    i dont have a closed mind, you obviously do, cos with out him thats 7 less goals this season, he didnt have a good game on saturday, and your judging him on that, for you to say he's always injured or sick, means you have a closed mind cos your taking it as gospel thats what it actually is, when it could be something other than an injury or sickness, but al let you work that one out.

    And if theres somebody out there in the summer thats going to cost less than nothing, cos thats what he will be available for, then you go find them and bring them to Everton. 

    And as you've asked for it Mr Font of all Knowledge, turning round and asking the question 'so what'? means the topic of conversation has gotten away from you, cos you've stated something that has that many holes in there is nothing feasible to come back with!

    So in summary, before you start TELLING everybody that they are wrong, and because you dont agree with what they say then you are right, i would think a little before you jump on your high horse with your comebacks of 'so 'what'! 

    Apart from that, i dont mind reading your posts cos usually you have a reasonable opnion with regards football matters, but its the same as with Tickets, and the same as it is with me, none of us are right all the time! Thankyou for your time kind Sir and enjoy your evening 
    :X

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    Ah wind your neck in. You're the one getting on your high horse over someone else's opinion.

    Don't take it so personal but my answer is still so what. Do you actually think I didn't know about his assists? Have I not watched every game and seen every goal probably the same as you? Didn't Bily score
    8 or 9 goals in his first season!

    And did I say definately don't sign him? Where? And where did I TELL anyone what to think?

    It doesn't matter whether he was sick, injured or Moyes just doesn't like him. Fact is he's only been on the pitch a third of the time and there's no reason to assume it would be different next season. Especially if he has a contract in the bag.

    By your logic I assume you wouldn't dare drop or get rid
    of Cahill either considering he's the second highest assistor? It has nothing to do with next season.

    And my opinion on him is not only on the basis of last Saturday. I have been saying he's untidy and careless in possession since the very first time I saw him.

    Someone who has come from wages like what Real Madrid play and who's likely to have attractive offers from elsewhere is by no means costing nothing.
  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,188
    Beano said:

    sambo applecart said:

    Beano said:

    sambo applecart said:

    Beano said:

    mattyod said:

    1. Key Every week players: Howard, Jags, Heitinga, Baines, Felliani, Rodwell, Gibson, Coleman
    2. Deadwood and not part of plans after this summer: Hibbert, Neville, Cahill, Saha, Billy, McFadden
    3. Youth players you would hope to become regulars: Gueye, Vellios, Barkley, Duffy, McAleny
    4. Current loan players you would like to make permenant: Drenthe and Donovan
    5. Sqaud Player that you feel would keep the bench strong. Osman, Anichebe, Distin (for one more season)

    To get in some money I would probably look to off load one of Felliani or Rodwell as they are 2 of our biggest assets and I don't think we can play them together or afford to have one warming the bench.



    That's a pretty reasonable answer (altho I have never been sure about Drenthe and after Saturday, I'm even less sure)

    Although that squad we'd be left with would need a huge injection of cash even AFTER signing Donovan and Drenthe if we were to sign them! And even if ALL of Duffy, Barkley, Gueyu, McAleny and Vellios were players that would make some impact on the 2012/13 season (and those are big If's)

    The reality is that Moyes probably has no choice but to keep the likes of Cahill, Hibbert etc

    Interesting that Jan Mucha has been completely forgotten by the way. Lets hope nothing ever happens to Howard

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    tell me who has more assists than him in the squad this season beano??? 

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    Nobody!
    So what?
    Cahill has has the second highest but most people would be happy to see him dropped!

    I can reverse the question and ask which of our own players caused us most problems with villa on Saturday! Drenthe!! Hense him being taken off.

    The fact that we've got virtually no other creative player makes Drenthe seem more worth while for next season than he otherwise would be! He's untidy and carelss on the ball and now into the second half of the season, we've only got a combined total of 7 full matches out of him when you add up all the minutes. He's always sick or injured! There just may be better out there in the Summer for the wages he's likely to want to stay here considering how hard up we are financially!

    You should never have a closed mind! :P


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    i dont have a closed mind, you obviously do, cos with out him thats 7 less goals this season, he didnt have a good game on saturday, and your judging him on that, for you to say he's always injured or sick, means you have a closed mind cos your taking it as gospel thats what it actually is, when it could be something other than an injury or sickness, but al let you work that one out.

    And if theres somebody out there in the summer thats going to cost less than nothing, cos thats what he will be available for, then you go find them and bring them to Everton. 

    And as you've asked for it Mr Font of all Knowledge, turning round and asking the question 'so what'? means the topic of conversation has gotten away from you, cos you've stated something that has that many holes in there is nothing feasible to come back with!

    So in summary, before you start TELLING everybody that they are wrong, and because you dont agree with what they say then you are right, i would think a little before you jump on your high horse with your comebacks of 'so 'what'! 

    Apart from that, i dont mind reading your posts cos usually you have a reasonable opnion with regards football matters, but its the same as with Tickets, and the same as it is with me, none of us are right all the time! Thankyou for your time kind Sir and enjoy your evening 
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    Ah wind your neck in. You're the one getting on your high horse over someone else's opinion.

    Don't take it so personal but my answer is still so what. Do you actually think I didn't know about his assists? Have I not watched every game and seen every goal probably the same as you? Didn't Bily score
    8 or 9 goals in his first season!

    And did I say definately don't sign him? Where? And where did I TELL anyone what to think?

    It doesn't matter whether he was sick, injured or Moyes just doesn't like him. Fact is he's only been on the pitch a third of the time and there's no reason to assume it would be different next season. Especially if he has a contract in the bag.

    By your logic I assume you wouldn't dare drop or get rid
    of Cahill either considering he's the second highest assistor? It has nothing to do with next season.

    And my opinion on him is not only on the basis of last Saturday. I have been saying he's untidy and careless in possession since the very first time I saw him.

    Someone who has come from wages like what Real Madrid play and who's likely to have attractive offers from elsewhere is by no means costing nothing.

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    but he aint costing a transfer fee, and thats a massive thing for us as a club, and he signed for Madrid when he was young, he was a prospect for them, so im guessing they will be similar to ManU in what they would pay, i dont envisage him being on more than 30k a week, so if could sign him for 40k a week and give the team a bit of flair i think it would be a good thing. He, for me, is whatwe havnt had for years, and thats flair, a player to get the crowd excited, somebody that can change a game, and that for me would be enough to sign him up.

    If you think he isnt going to play many games as he hasnt played everyone this season, we might aswell get rid of everyone that misses a few games! To sum it up mate, i want him, he gives us something none of the other team do and i think for a free transfer he would be a good signing for us! wooooooooooooooooooooooo! THERES ONLY ONE ROYSTEN DRENTHE THERES ONLY ONE ROYSTEN DRENTHE, WALKING A LONG, SINGING A SONG, WALKING IN DRENTHE'S WONDERLAND.....TAKE EM ON ROSYSTEN DRENTHE, TAKE EM ON ROYSTEN DRENTHE!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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