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IF we have 2.5 million for DG........
  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,216
    Surely to god we have 2.5million for Nedem Onouha??


    Cant we just cut our losses on Bilyalazyditnov and recoup 5million and sign Jordan Rhodes??


    Its not rocket science surely?

    We only need 3 or 4 players for god's sake, Feel like twisting my ball bag round sometimes with this club until it snaps off its that frickin annoying and frustrating.


    Its like the worst pantomine ever, and nobody even gets to shout he's behind you or wagon wheels get thrown into the crowd or anything :(
  • eire blue
    Posts: 105
    I have been to a few Rep of Ireland Game in which Gibson has played and i stress now how bad he is. If he cannot get a starting place in the national team ahead of Glenn Whealan, Keith Andrews (who no one wants) Keith Fahy (championship player) then how is he good enough for us. He is no better than what we have in reserve. I know we are shopping in pound land and he may be within our budget, but Moyes will go way down in my estimation if we sign him

    If we do have 2.5m to spend we should have given it to Pienaar and asked him to stay as he was quality. Gibson simply is not.
  • cjohno
    Posts: 5,166
    we will sell billy and all we will get is the usual loan deal and the rest of the money will dissapear into someones pockets, were mushrooms kept in the dark and fed shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiite
  • Beano
    Posts: 3,283
    eire blue said:

    I have been to a few Rep of Ireland Game in which Gibson has played and i stress now how bad he is. If he cannot get a starting place in the national team ahead of Glenn Whealan, Keith Andrews (who no one wants) Keith Fahy (championship player) then how is he good enough for us. He is no better than what we have in reserve. I know we are shopping in pound land and he may be within our budget, but Moyes will go way down in my estimation if we sign him

    If we do have 2.5m to spend we should have given it to Pienaar and asked him to stay as he was quality. Gibson simply is not.



    Your comparison is not as simple as you make it out to be.

    Trappatoni wants 2 defensive midfielders - Gibson isn't - Whelan and Andrews are!

    He also wants players who are playing regularly for their clubs - Gibson isn't - Whelan and Andrews are!

    It is the latter issue that is keeping him out of the team most and Trapp has said he rates Gibson really highly but that he simply won't pick a player who never plays for their first team and has urged him to leave Man Utd this January so that he can bring him to the Euro's.

    I'm not saying Gibson is great. I simply don't know. And until he gets a run of games at first team level, nobody really does know! But we need creative quality and given our financial situation, buying people like Gibson who have never had a chance is our ONLY chance!
  • Beano
    Posts: 3,283
    sambo applecart said:

    Surely to god we have 2.5million for Nedem Onouha??



    Cant we just cut our losses on Bilyalazyditnov and recoup 5million and sign Jordan Rhodes??


    Its not rocket science surely?

    We only need 3 or 4 players for god's sake, Feel like twisting my ball bag round sometimes with this club until it snaps off its that frickin annoying and frustrating.


    Its like the worst pantomine ever, and nobody even gets to shout he's behind you or wagon wheels get thrown into the crowd or anything :(


    I'd say if someone offered us £5 Million for Bily, it would be accepted!

    But what can you do if the bid doesn't exist?
  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,216
    Beano said:

    sambo applecart said:

    Surely to god we have 2.5million for Nedem Onouha??



    Cant we just cut our losses on Bilyalazyditnov and recoup 5million and sign Jordan Rhodes??


    Its not rocket science surely?

    We only need 3 or 4 players for god's sake, Feel like twisting my ball bag round sometimes with this club until it snaps off its that frickin annoying and frustrating.


    Its like the worst pantomine ever, and nobody even gets to shout he's behind you or wagon wheels get thrown into the crowd or anything :(


    I'd say if someone offered us £5 Million for Bily, it would be accepted!

    But what can you do if the bid doesn't exist?

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    Not alot fella.


    1 million would be enough for Gibson and we need defensive cover so we should bid 2million for Onouha cos i reckon he would sooner come here than go to QPR 
  • cjohno
    Posts: 5,166
    gibsons a free agent in the summer im pretty sure he will hang on to make as much money as he can, why join a club who have no money?
  • Blitzer2010
    Posts: 97
    we do not need gibson id rather play hibbo in cm! IF we are going to go 4 a cm please make it a decent one?
  • Beano
    Posts: 3,283
    sambo applecart said:

    Beano said:

    sambo applecart said:

    Surely to god we have 2.5million for Nedem Onouha??



    Cant we just cut our losses on Bilyalazyditnov and recoup 5million and sign Jordan Rhodes??


    Its not rocket science surely?

    We only need 3 or 4 players for god's sake, Feel like twisting my ball bag round sometimes with this club until it snaps off its that frickin annoying and frustrating.


    Its like the worst pantomine ever, and nobody even gets to shout he's behind you or wagon wheels get thrown into the crowd or anything :(


    I'd say if someone offered us £5 Million for Bily, it would be accepted!

    But what can you do if the bid doesn't exist?

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    Not alot fella.


    1 million would be enough for Gibson and we need defensive cover so we should bid 2million for Onouha cos i reckon he would sooner come here than go to QPR 


    With Gibson, if he couldn't agree personal terms with Sunderland in the Summer, who were throwing dosh around like confetti, then I don't see how we'd offer him much more. Less if anything!

    I wouldn't mind signing Onuoha either!
    The advantage QPR have over us there is that mark hughes knows him so well
    £2.5 Million is a really good price for him if it's accurate!
  • cjohno
    Posts: 5,166
    Blitzer2010 said:

    we do not need gibson id rather play hibbo in cm! IF we are going to go 4 a cm please make it a decent one?


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    he cant be any worse than neville in the centre, and we cant afford a decent one, just give some youngsters a game

  • Blitzer2010
    Posts: 97
    we only have 1 cm young un havnt we lol
  • eire blue
    Posts: 105
    Beano said:

    eire blue said:




    Your comparison is not as simple as you make it out to be.

    Trappatoni wants 2 defensive midfielders - Gibson isn't - Whelan and Andrews are!

    He also wants players who are playing regularly for their clubs - Gibson isn't - Whelan and Andrews are!

    It is the latter issue that is keeping him out of the team most and Trapp has said he rates Gibson really highly but that he simply won't pick a player who never plays for their first team and has urged him to leave Man Utd this January so that he can bring him to the Euro's.

    I'm not saying Gibson is great. I simply don't know. And until he gets a run of games at first team level, nobody really does know! But we need creative quality and given our financial situation, buying people like Gibson who have never had a chance is our ONLY chance!

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    I appreciate what you are saying Beano and maybe i did not make my point in the correct manner.  Gibson has played 17 time for the REP and its my opinion that he never really stood out as being of any real class certainly no better that what we have at the club.  He was on loan at Royal Antwerp and Wolves and from what i hear did not set the world alight.  It is a true reflection of the market of player that we can afford but he will not move us forward.  I know we need substantial investment to do this but it does not mean i have to be happy with Gibson joining us.
  • Blitzer2010
    Posts: 97
    eire blue said:

    Beano said:

    eire blue said:




    Your comparison is not as simple as you make it out to be.

    Trappatoni wants 2 defensive midfielders - Gibson isn't - Whelan and Andrews are!

    He also wants players who are playing regularly for their clubs - Gibson isn't - Whelan and Andrews are!

    It is the latter issue that is keeping him out of the team most and Trapp has said he rates Gibson really highly but that he simply won't pick a player who never plays for their first team and has urged him to leave Man Utd this January so that he can bring him to the Euro's.

    I'm not saying Gibson is great. I simply don't know. And until he gets a run of games at first team level, nobody really does know! But we need creative quality and given our financial situation, buying people like Gibson who have never had a chance is our ONLY chance!

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    I appreciate what you are saying Beano and maybe i did not make my point in the correct manner.  Gibson has played 17 time for the REP and its my opinion that he never really stood out as being of any real class certainly no better that what we have at the club.  He was on loan at Royal Antwerp and Wolves and from what i hear did not set the world alight.  It is a true reflection of the market of player that we can afford but he will not move us forward.  I know we need substantial investment to do this but it does not mean i have to be happy with Gibson joining us.


    yeah totally agree do people think he will be the solution to out midfield problems? coz seriously i think it would jus make things worse
  • xreyuk123
    Posts: 785
    I'd easily prefer Onuoha.
  • tickets11
    Posts: 1,002

    Ask united fans what they think of gibson, its not about getting a run in the team, Gibson got up to a point but then never progressed, people thought a few 30 yard strikes was a sign of more things to come, but they were wrong, other aspects in his game are poor, hence why he cant get in the team.


    we need a striker ffs.  Villa have just signed robbie keane, i would of taken him on a 2 month loan deal, he is better then what we have here at the moment.

  • Beano
    Posts: 3,283
    People have to get this into their heads. WE ARE back to the days of signing Kilbane's, McFadden's, Pistone's and Bent's. And that's if we're lucky!! It's the way things are gonna be until investment arrives (never).

    No use in complaining that they're not good enough every time it happens! OF cource the manager would rather be bidding for Tevez than Gison, but Gibson is all he can do!
  • Beano
    Posts: 3,283
    tickets11 said:

    Ask united fans what they think of gibson



    N'ah. I've seen as much of him as they have. Probably more than most of them considering I go to most Ireland home games! Considering he's only started 5 games for Ireland in total (and only 2 or 3 at home), that's not a whole lot either!
  • Whiskeyandspeed84
    Posts: 754
    Beano said:

    People have to get this into their heads. WE ARE back to the days of signing Kilbane's, McFadden's, Pistone's and Bent's. And that's if we're lucky!! It's the way things are gonna be until investment arrives (never).

    No use in complaining that they're not good enough every time it happens! OF cource the manager would rather be bidding for Tevez than Gison, but Gibson is all he can do!




    Sad but true...i remember being a kid and being happy and excited that we signed anyone at all, usually players id never heard of before that i hoped were going to be fantastic hidden gems. Sadly those players were Ibrahim Bakayoko and Mikel Madar.
  • NSNO
    Posts: 3,112
    Beano said:

    People have to get this into their heads. WE ARE back to the days of signing Kilbane's, McFadden's, Pistone's and Bent's.



    sadly this is the case........although what disappoints me is, 6-7 years ago Moyes was finding players like Cahill & Arteta for 2 - 2.5m......surely there are a few gems out there for similar money today that can do a better job than Gibson.....its getting very frustrating!
  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,216
    NSNO said:

    Beano said:

    People have to get this into their heads. WE ARE back to the days of signing Kilbane's, McFadden's, Pistone's and Bent's.



    sadly this is the case........although what disappoints me is, 6-7 years ago Moyes was finding players like Cahill & Arteta for 2 - 2.5m......surely there are a few gems out there for similar money today that can do a better job than Gibson.....its getting very frustrating!

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    i concur mate, gotta be better out there hasnt there
  • Beano
    Posts: 3,283
    NSNO said:

    Beano said:

    People have to get this into their heads. WE ARE back to the days of signing Kilbane's, McFadden's, Pistone's and Bent's.



    sadly this is the case........although what disappoints me is, 6-7 years ago Moyes was finding players like Cahill & Arteta for 2 - 2.5m......surely there are a few gems out there for similar money today that can do a better job than Gibson.....its getting very frustrating!


    I think it's much harder to get them now! A Cahill today is more expensive than Cahill in 2004 and there are more clubs swarming around them!
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