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Posts: 21January 2012 The Blue Union have told the world just how bad things are financially at Everton? The Blue Union are putting off buyers for EFC? Seriously?
Firstly during the non-taped meeting (and I challenge anyone to categorically prove me wrong - ie produce a copy!!) BK stated he had to write to the banks so they wouldn't kill us off, hardly TBU's fault then. Oh and sorry to burst anyones bubble but banks don't keep that information secret u know - they share it with credit reference agencies worldwide!!
Secondly, The Blue Union aren't putting off potential buyers at all. I think u'll find that our actual net worth and what the Board want for us are 2 margins that are vastly different in anyones world. Need proof?
Here's a copy of Everton's net worth, compelled using EFC reports filed in Companies House:
http://companycheck.co.uk/company/00036624
And here is what the Board are trying to get for us
Hardly takes a genius to work out where the problem lies - which by the way is the £100m profit the Board want to make on their shares!!
No one denies BK is a Blue but that doesn't mean he is the right person to run us (especially when trading on his Evertonian roots just to make a huge profit from us!!)
It's Time For Change
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Posts: 98January 2012 moyes has his flaws, so does every other manager, hes had buys, but look at his important buys, the ones that have matterd to us, jagielka what about £4mil? lescott about £5mil? baines £4mil? cahill £1.25mil? arteta £2mil? pienaar £2mil? he paid £15mil fa fellainin an proved worthwhile, hes developed coleman well, who most everton fans will miss while hes injured, hes had to survive with loans for seasons, hes developed rodwell brilliant, heand the scouts have brought some great talents to the club, and no am gwladys all the way you soft c***, am blue hearted all the way, little d***heads fighting with their own fans this season its f***ing embarrassing and its all because of the fans who just look for anyone to blame, and I haven't said once the club isn't overvalued, we are overvalued, but you think we will be better off without moyes? when we had catterick and kendall it was different, this is 2012, and we have buttons, we're in debt, we need a new ground, and it will be a while before we get a reliable investment, and if fans can't accept that then god bless the club, all we can do is hope this season goes better than we think it will, and yeah am young, but I know my football and I know and love our everton.
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Posts: 98January 2012 and I haven't said that we don't need a new board, but the fans are just pushing bk and if it continues he will flap it and sell to any old c*** which we don't want, everton is no washed out club that goes down the drain,thats not us.
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Posts: 2,154January 2012 One thing that annoys me is that I don't see round having the same impact as Alan Irvine used to, when do you ever see him suggesting anything to moyes, where as Irvine it seemed to me did make suggestions.
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Posts: 181January 2012Beano said:ulsterman said:BlueBoy93 said:Snowcone said:BlueBoy93 said:
because the way some of our fans are treating the situation is gonna put off potential buyers, put off our future players and we will just go to f*** if it carries on, people calling moyesy all the time when hes worked with buttons, and took us to europe from walters relegation side, no faith what so ever.
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You tell them lad, Catterick and Kendalll had nothing on Moyes, apart from league titles and Fa Cups and a ECCW. Ten years of defensive boring football and no closer to winning anything than we were before he got here.----- what and your expecting cups spending f*** all a season?
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He has had money before hes broke our transfer record 3 times and had a squad that qualified for champions league and europe so he hasnt gone every season without spending maybe there is a reason the board arent giving him money look at his expensive signings he has made that does nothing or he lets go for free, bilya 10mil ruined him, yakubu 11mil hadnt clue who to manage a goalscoring striker sold sold him for 1.5mil and watches him bang in 14 this season so far, isnt always about money it comes to man management and thats something moyes cannot do. you telling me as well that playing a striker that has scored the same amount of goals this season as our goalkeeper and plays him every week while our top scoring striker hardly makes the bench, moyes problem is hes no balls to drop anyone and is known to have his favourites so these players dont have to perform because they know their playing next week whatever the outcome
FFS....broke the transfer record 3 times....by using the same money! The teams who have finished above us every season for the last 5 years have had several players far more expensive than AJ, Yak or Fellaini in the teams every season. We've never had more than 2 in any team. The AJ money was used again to buy Fellaini when AJ was sold. The Yak was bought by selling several players too!
Yeah apparently these "favorites" include Neville and Saha who have each only started half our games this season (hardly "every week" is it?) - and this so called top scorer was completely **** in the two starts he's been given - yes - worse than Saha! If you play that kid like that every week when he's clearly completely lost, you'll destroy the lad! And then you'll be having a go about that! Sam with Barkley who needs to grow mentally as much as anything else and who has already been given more chances and experience than the likes of Gerrard and lampard were at his age!
And you needn't go on about 4-5-1 either! We don't play a 4-5-1 formation. Watch the fookin game!
There's a difference between not having the balls to drop someone and not being able to drop someone because there's no better options available all things considered.
People talking about Duncan Ferguson being next manager. I'd love to know the reasoning of wanting him above Scott Gemmill, Carl tyler, Kevin Campbell etc etc. They're as qualified as him and have the same chance of success!
Football supporters can be right 4ookin t_its!
I think a lot of people have forgotten the difference in Everton now as compared to the 10+ years before Moyes came bar the 1995/96 season under Royle. And I don't think they'll remember it either - until he's gone. That's when he'll be appreciated again - when we're hovering between 15th-18th all season long....Again!-----------------
No disrespect, have you actually watched us this season, I have and have done so since the 80's, this is some of the worst fottball I have seen. We are possibley the most boring team in the prem to watch, no ambition, no idea. I have in the past thought Moyes is our only option, I would now like to see him go and lets see what someon else can do
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Posts: 3,247January 2012jj1878 said:Beano said:ulsterman said:BlueBoy93 said:Snowcone said:BlueBoy93 said:
because the way some of our fans are treating the situation is gonna put off potential buyers, put off our future players and we will just go to f*** if it carries on, people calling moyesy all the time when hes worked with buttons, and took us to europe from walters relegation side, no faith what so ever.
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You tell them lad, Catterick and Kendalll had nothing on Moyes, apart from league titles and Fa Cups and a ECCW. Ten years of defensive boring football and no closer to winning anything than we were before he got here.----- what and your expecting cups spending f*** all a season?
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He has had money before hes broke our transfer record 3 times and had a squad that qualified for champions league and europe so he hasnt gone every season without spending maybe there is a reason the board arent giving him money look at his expensive signings he has made that does nothing or he lets go for free, bilya 10mil ruined him, yakubu 11mil hadnt clue who to manage a goalscoring striker sold sold him for 1.5mil and watches him bang in 14 this season so far, isnt always about money it comes to man management and thats something moyes cannot do. you telling me as well that playing a striker that has scored the same amount of goals this season as our goalkeeper and plays him every week while our top scoring striker hardly makes the bench, moyes problem is hes no balls to drop anyone and is known to have his favourites so these players dont have to perform because they know their playing next week whatever the outcome
FFS....broke the transfer record 3 times....by using the same money! The teams who have finished above us every season for the last 5 years have had several players far more expensive than AJ, Yak or Fellaini in the teams every season. We've never had more than 2 in any team. The AJ money was used again to buy Fellaini when AJ was sold. The Yak was bought by selling several players too!
Yeah apparently these "favorites" include Neville and Saha who have each only started half our games this season (hardly "every week" is it?) - and this so called top scorer was completely **** in the two starts he's been given - yes - worse than Saha! If you play that kid like that every week when he's clearly completely lost, you'll destroy the lad! And then you'll be having a go about that! Sam with Barkley who needs to grow mentally as much as anything else and who has already been given more chances and experience than the likes of Gerrard and lampard were at his age!
And you needn't go on about 4-5-1 either! We don't play a 4-5-1 formation. Watch the fookin game!
There's a difference between not having the balls to drop someone and not being able to drop someone because there's no better options available all things considered.
People talking about Duncan Ferguson being next manager. I'd love to know the reasoning of wanting him above Scott Gemmill, Carl tyler, Kevin Campbell etc etc. They're as qualified as him and have the same chance of success!
Football supporters can be right 4ookin t_its!
I think a lot of people have forgotten the difference in Everton now as compared to the 10+ years before Moyes came bar the 1995/96 season under Royle. And I don't think they'll remember it either - until he's gone. That's when he'll be appreciated again - when we're hovering between 15th-18th all season long....Again!-----------------
No disrespect, have you actually watched us this season, I have and have done so since the 80's, this is some of the worst fottball I have seen. We are possibley the most boring team in the prem to watch, no ambition, no idea. I have in the past thought Moyes is our only option, I would now like to see him go and lets see what someon else can do
Yes I missed the Sunderland game but I think I have seen all the others! We are getting plenty of players in and around the box whenever we can - but the service is absolute cack!
We were ALWAYS dreary and uncreatve when we were without Pienaar and Arteta due to injuries and suspension. Why should it be different now that they're gone for good?
Do you think Moyes didn't want the £13 Million he got for them to replace them with someone?
Is it his fault that he didn't get it?
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Posts: 7,420January 2012 Would like to see the dream team take over Moysey, would bring consistency to the club............Ron Atkinson and Ian Dowie..
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Posts: 98January 2012 well saha is why we're boring, he plays deep, osman is trying to win headers while saha is scratching his ar** in midfield, we playh good balls in, we just a good striker, yeah we're defensive at the moment but we can only play 451 with that squad, I respect opinions and plus we're all everton fans, I mean doesn't vellios deserve to play even though he played bad the two times hes started, give him more games, I understand the frustation fo some of moyes's decision but trust if we kept him he will keep us from danger, I mean our wage budget must be terrible if he brought mcfadden back, why else would he of got him? if he can build a team with the sh** hes had to deal with then imagine him with £40mil after an investment... if we got one...
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