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  • bluewookie
    Posts: 137
    Poor display.  Are we really this bad?
  • BLUESKYWALKER
    Posts: 128
    YES!!
  • ScouseBlues
    Posts: 235

    :(
  • Pearse
    Posts: 554
    Its suicidal stuff following us sometimes. Kenwright is killing my passion for the club I love-d. Team needs a freshen up but sure "the banks won't allow it." If you can't afford to run a football club then don't own one. I've been on Kenwright's back for years and its time we "dethrone" the dictator now.
  • bluedestiny
    Posts: 229


    ** Edit, Agree somewhat. However, today was Moyese fault. On paper we are clearly superior to QPR.

  • lisa2blonde
    Posts: 43
    agree
  • milky71
    Posts: 8,705
    Why is this Bills fault.

    we had over 100million punds worth of players on the pitch and couldn't beat a championship team
  • bluewookie
    Posts: 137
    I think Moyes was his usual self today.  Negative and tactically naive.  Players didn't look up for it.  Does anyone think they are just complacent knowing there is nobody to replace them?
  • BLUESKYWALKER
    Posts: 128
    Have to agree with Milky71 on this one. Today was NOT Kenwrights fault. We had more than enough to beat a team like QPR. Passion, tactics and a desire to win was non existant apart from in Barkley. Moyes has to take a real long hard look at himself and the way he wants us to play. Because being defensive and playing a 451 AT HOME just wont cut it anymore!! I love Moyes and he has done wonders for our club. BUT, he has to change it as he has played the same styke and same formationa for too many years now and other teams know how to play against it. So Mr Moyes though I hate to say it, Change it, mix it up, be more attack minded, stop the 451, stop making substitutes too late in the game and generally stop your $hitty tactics that dont work, if you cant do that, RESIGN!! I want Moyes to stay I really do, but our best manager in years "COULD" be the reason we get beat a lot this season. Food for thought. I love Everton, they are in my heart, BUT, Everton Football Club comes first, before ANY player before ANY manager! COYB!!
  • BLUESKYWALKER
    Posts: 128

     

  • lisa2blonde
    Posts: 43
    milky71 said:

    Why is this Bills fault.

    we had over 100million punds worth of players on the pitch and couldn't beat a championship team



    Just blame someone...lol! 
    OK - it's bill's fault because for 10 years he has been saying - "I want a buyer!" IT's moyes fault because he has no vision now - it's desperation and he only knows 1 formation... the same one he uses on his computer... championship manager.
  • 11blue
    Posts: 4,667
    Pearse said:

    Its suicidal stuff following us sometimes. Kenwright is killing my passion for the club I love-d. Team needs a freshen up but sure "the banks won't allow it." If you can't afford to run a football club then don't own one. I've been on Kenwright's back for years and its time we "dethrone" the dictator now.



    What do you want him to do then??? Resign and have nobody run the club??? He is looking for investment but if nobody wants to buy the club what can he do??
  • Frontman
    Posts: 8
    Moyes has done wonders but one thing that happens every season is moyes is too defensive and we drop sh~t points at home. Today is a new low, no excuses whatsoever, not lack of money or bill's fault. moyes and the players are out of order today. end of.
  • Pearse
    Posts: 554
    11blue said:

    Pearse said:

    Its suicidal stuff following us sometimes. Kenwright is killing my passion for the club I love-d. Team needs a freshen up but sure "the banks won't allow it." If you can't afford to run a football club then don't own one. I've been on Kenwright's back for years and its time we "dethrone" the dictator now.



    What do you want him to do then??? Resign and have nobody run the club??? He is looking for investment but if nobody wants to buy the club what can he do??


    He's not doing a good enough job though looking for investment if he hasn't found any in years. Plus, people say the team we had out today are good enough individuals to beat QPR. True, but its not about the individuals, is it? Its about the team, which is in all honesty, as stale as the custard cream I found down the side of the couch the other day. Proof of this is that the only player that performed well and seemed up for the challenge today was Barkley, a new face to the first team. Hence, new players will liven up the squad. So I say let the likes of Fellaini, Rodwell and whoever else is worth a decent fee off and get a new look to the squad. But its probably to late to do that this season so we'll have to do with relegation worries to start the season followed by a mid-table comfortable finish. How predictable, boring and totally frustrating! I do agree though, that Moyes has to cop on with his tactics - they are also "stale" at this stage!
  • lorrhapimp
    Posts: 299
    I'm afraid......I'm very afraid!
  • Walkoff
    Posts: 34



    ** Edit, Agree somewhat. However, today was Moyese fault. On paper we are clearly superior to QPR.



    I don't know about that. The players simply played bad. Bad first touches. Bad crosses, bad passes. It seemed that most passes did not have enough pace. Most crosses came up short. It's like it was the first time that they've ever played with each other.

    I think Moyes was his usual self today.  Negative and tactically naive.  Players didn't look up for it.  Does anyone think they are just complacent knowing there is nobody to replace them?



    Bingo. The players did NOT look up to it and the veterans looked complacent. Fellaini looked like he didn't want to be bothered. Saha looked confused. Cahill's name was not mentioned after his first half miss. Maybe a loss at home to a newly promoted team is what they needed.
  • bluedestiny
    Posts: 229
    Walkoff said:



    ** Edit, Agree somewhat. However, today was Moyese fault. On paper we are clearly superior to QPR.



    I don't know about that. The players simply played bad. Bad first touches. Bad crosses, bad passes. It seemed that most passes did not have enough pace. Most crosses came up short. It's like it was the first time that they've ever played with each other.

    I think Moyes was his usual self today.  Negative and tactically naive.  Players didn't look up for it.  Does anyone think they are just complacent knowing there is nobody to replace them?



    Bingo. The players did NOT look up to it and the veterans looked complacent. Fellaini looked like he didn't want to be bothered. Saha looked confused. Cahill's name was not mentioned after his first half miss. Maybe a loss at home to a newly promoted team is what they needed.





    I do think that motivation is partly to blame. Maybe if the midfields
    knew that they had a good forward to feed the ball to, they would make a
    greater effort. I know its not a great attitude to have, but it makes
    sense - knowing that your effort is going to be rewarded with a great
    goal sounds like great motivation to me! :)
  • carpfanatic
    Posts: 23
    Getting paid 20 to 30 grand would be enough motivation for me. $-)
  • milky71
    Posts: 8,705

    Getting paid 20 to 30 grand would be enough motivation for me. $-)



    Something fishy about this post *-:)

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