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Who has done more damage to the club
  • BlueJayDee
    Posts: 530
    Bill Kenwright

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    Blue Union

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  • mikraz
    Posts: 2,154
    its not the bu's fault we have no assets.
  • lukep08
    Posts: 309
    Am i seeing this correctly? the blue union? HAHAHAHAH how in this earth have they even SLIGHTLY done damage to the club. absolute monghole of a thread.
  • tickets11
    Posts: 1,002

    If the BU wernt around, everyone would just take it.

    Bk could sell rodwell for 20m and then not reinvest anything back into the team and no one would question him.


    no money in 2 years and look at the state of the team ffs.

    weve been in decline since the fa cup final, losing lescott pienaar and arteta in back to back seasons, and now relying on loan signings to see us through as there no money to buy players.  next to leave is likely to be rodwell


    weve sold/mortgaged everything we have for short term gain but long term loss, take finch farm for example.

    and people continue to back him just becuase " he is an evertonian" ffs look at this from a neutral perspective and look at the state the club is in at the moment.


    didnt kenright do an interview where he said he was unsure whether goodison would retain its safety certificate by 2013.

    isnt moyes contract up next season aswell, lets see how the next manager  copes with kenright,

  • lukep08
    Posts: 309
    tickets11 said:

    If the BU wernt around, everyone would just take it.

    Bk could sell rodwell for 20m and then not reinvest anything back into the team and no one would question him.


    no money in 2 years and look at the state of the team ffs.

    weve been in decline since the fa cup final, losing lescott pienaar and arteta in back to back seasons, and now relying on loan signings to see us through as there no money to buy players.  next to leave is likely to be rodwell


    weve sold/mortgaged everything we have for short term gain but long term loss, take finch farm for example.

    and people continue to back him just becuase " he is an evertonian" ffs look at this from a neutral perspective and look at the state the club is in at the moment.


    didnt kenright do an interview where he said he was unsure whether goodison would retain its safety certificate by 2013.

    isnt moyes contract up next season aswell, lets see how the next manager  copes with kenright,


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    exactly!!!! kenwright is a mess, sick of all this talk about him being a blue "if he could sell he would" bull hes holding out he doesnt wanna leave , KENWRIGHT OUT
  • Knoxy2001e
    Posts: 1,423

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    the BU have screwed us good and proper by
    releasing the details of a confidential meeting with BK to the press and
    telling everyone just how difficult our financial position is. 



    now the whole world knows that we have problems
    with our bankers, it upsets players, arteta has left, maybe others will want to
    leave. it will now be harder to attract new players, because our financial
    difficulties have been broadcast.



    only complete ignoramuses would betray a
    confidence like that. they are not supporters, they have betrayed our
    club and done it immense harm.



    "Bk could sell rodwell for 20m and then not
    reinvest anything back into the team and no one would question him."



     



    1st, I doubt if anyone would pay 20mill for
    rodwell. if you can find an idiot who will i have no doubt moysey will agree.



    2nd, BUT NOW [thanx to BU] i wouldnt be surprised if the banks would
    want that money to pay down our [now well publicised] debt.



     



    "its not the bu's fault we have no
    assets."



     

    its their fault that they betrayed our confidence to the press and the rest of the football community!



     if its bk's fault
    he's not a billionaire, using your 'logic' it must be your fault that you are not and can't
    bail us out. 

    and we do have assets. but compared to the cost of running a
    football club in the 21st century they are negligible.

  • Warrington Dan
    Posts: 8,848
    The medical team for keeping Saha fit all season. 
  • BlueBoy93
    Posts: 98

    The medical team for keeping Saha fit all season. 


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    you can't forget the coaching staff that taught tony how to cross :|
  • Russell82
    Posts: 723
    Peter Johnson ruined our club.

    How great would the Kings Dock be now?
  • ToffeeCup
    Posts: 2,951

    Bill Kenwright hasn't got the financial might to give the fans what they want but the fans would do well to remember that there wasn't a queue of people looking to step into his shoes to save the club from Johnson.

    The BU are an irrelevant bunch of muppets.

    Stupid question.
  • Russell82
    Posts: 723
    ToffeeCup said:


    Bill Kenwright hasn't got the financial might to give the fans what they want but the fans would do well to remember that there wasn't a queue of people looking to step into his shoes to save the club from Johnson.

    The BU are an irrelevant bunch of muppets.

    Stupid question.


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    This!!

    Nice that they were more interest in selling the tape to the media rather then the clubs best interests.


    Kenwright doesn't do himself any favours though - There is only so many times you can tell the same lie.
  • MavisCruet
    Posts: 1,794

    Peter Johnson.

    when the premier league kicked off and the money started rolling in, we went from top six to relegation fodder.

    Kenwright steadied the ship and invested heavily in wages and transfer fees in comparison to previous years (Walter Smith I think actually turned a small profit on player transfers).  This investment compared to our meagre income pushed us to qualify for the Champions League.  A very unlucky draw against Villareal, who made it to the semis and probably would  have made the final bar dodgy refereering, cost us dearly, both in finance and prestige.  Our European performances generally suffered from unlucky draws and underperformance.  Qualifying however, and retaining a manager whose star was in the ascendent cost us a lot in wages to keep together the team.  That has stretched finances to breaking point.

    As a result, we have to reduce the wage bill, and rebuild.  The time under kenwright has heightened your expectation, just think back to Mike Milligan rifling one in against Wimbledon to keep us up on goal difference.

    The Bunion are an irrelevance and deluded.

  • MavisCruet
    Posts: 1,794

    Oh and to add to this, whilst our non playing investments are poor, and we do not generate enough money, partly this is because we're consistently cheaper than a large number of clubs, Liverpool included.  BK always has the option of hiking ticket prices to allow for more money...

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14367608.stm

  • 1ceablue
    Posts: 3,253
    The RS at Heysel and Agent Johnson
  • Snowcone
    Posts: 6,666
    1ceablue said:

    The RS at Heysel and Agent Johnson


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    Correct answer.
  • Ivdlit
    Posts: 1,980
    "Who has done more damage to the club"

    Mass consciousness of those related to Everton.

    IVDLIT = Evertonian for optimism. Nil Satis Nisi Optimism. ;) Evertonians rise up.
  • tickets11
    Posts: 1,002

    people need to stop using heysel as an excuse, we knew before the season started there wouldnt be any european football if we finished first, so why complain about it after,

    and the ban affect every team, other teams recovered why didnt we

  • tickets11
    Posts: 1,002

    Peter Johnson.

    when the premier league kicked off and the money started rolling in, we went from top six to relegation fodder.

    Kenwright steadied the ship and invested heavily in wages and transfer fees in comparison to previous years (Walter Smith I think actually turned a small profit on player transfers).  This investment compared to our meagre income pushed us to qualify for the Champions League.  A very unlucky draw against Villareal, who made it to the semis and probably would  have made the final bar dodgy refereering, cost us dearly, both in finance and prestige.  Our European performances generally suffered from unlucky draws and underperformance.  Qualifying however, and retaining a manager whose star was in the ascendent cost us a lot in wages to keep together the team.  That has stretched finances to breaking point.

    As a result, we have to reduce the wage bill, and rebuild.  The time under kenwright has heightened your expectation, just think back to Mike Milligan rifling one in against Wimbledon to keep us up on goal difference.

    The Bunion are an irrelevance and deluded.


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    we are paying CL wages to our players and its crippling us, its as simple as that.  this is why we have such a small squad.

    we cant afford to have fellaini on 70k a week.

    we are on longer a top5 team and no longer getting europe on a consistent basis, yet the players wages seem to be increasing.


    when the next manager comes in what the **** is he meant to do players who are too old to get any decent money for.

  • Knoxy2001e
    Posts: 1,423
    "we are paying CL wages to our players and its crippling us, its as simple as that."

    our wage bill is  slightly below the average for an epl side. but wages are a disgrace and i would like to see something done to curb them.

  • Proffessor Toff
    Posts: 95
    just as bad as one another blue union = negativity & whining
    Blue Bill = not willing to put money in to freshen the side

    All = = A pretty bleak existence for all us fans i just cant understand whats stopping a good owner appearing i am very patient but am feeling as are many other fans we need to back the manager but not with bill at the reigns sorry you are'nt doing anything about our demise a great club falling to the depths of beggars chasing round for a meal even a rubbish manu castoff does'nt want to come
  • kingmoyes
    Posts: 1,841
    lukep08 said:

    Am i seeing this correctly? the blue union? HAHAHAHAH how in this earth have they even SLIGHTLY done damage to the club. absolute monghole of a thread.


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    HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH

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