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To all these gobsh!tes saying Moyes out!
  • Benjeey
    Posts: 320
    Is that what you really want? Just think of the repercussions that would have on this football club. Compensation to pay DM off, money to pay off the contract of another manager from another football club. It all costs money, money that we havnt got! If bill wanted to get rid of Moyes he'd have a very hard time trying to do so. We would be financially broke. So to all these Anti-Moyes, not paying for tickets, so called fans, ride it out and stop moaning because nothing is going to change until we get a bit of money. So we lost tonight but im pretty damn sure that if we won, Moyes would go back to being the greatest thing ever to happen to this football club, which in my opInion, he still is!

    Get a backbone and SUPPORT the team you love instead if hindering it. I've been a STH since I was 5 and i still will be when I am 86 even if we are a non league team!

    You love this club! Start showing it
  • ulsterman
    Posts: 202
    i do love this club and love this club to bits but im sorry if you think im going to sit here and praise moyes for this seasons performance im not a true fan, and to be told the reason we got beat was the wind just shows he is running out of ideas to blame.

    i will always love this club but for you to tell anyone that they dont love the club because we dont agree with wats gone on and showing our frustration is unfair, wat happens if we say nothing sit here  and accept it where would we be.

    you might not understand the reality but you sound like youd be ok with everton relegated but let me tell u my friend if everton were relegated we would not have a club to love
  • Benjeey
    Posts: 320
    Not once did I say you don't love the club, I said start showing the love! Since when do you think not turning up to games is helping? If anything THAT will get us relegated. Of course I'm not okay with us being relegated, I was using it as a sigh to show my passion surely you could see that? What will moaning achieve eh? Tell me because I really am baffled. Support and encouragement will boost morale more than hindering the team will! I love this club too much to see it climb into the darkest Abyss so all I'm saying is, just get behind them! Keep the faith and it will come good
  • mikraz
    Posts: 2,182
    Ulsterman is right to have his opinion, but I guarantee we are all thick enough to love this club wherever it was. We just want better than the current hopelessness.
  • Willows82
    Posts: 148
    The only people would would want Moyes out of our club are people that know nothing about football.

    They say he's had money and wasted it - Bily, Heitinga etc. Other than that when has he ever had money? He doesn't have experience at spending large amounts, but look at what he's brought us with nowt, 2.5mill for Cahill, Pienaar, Arteta, Jagielka, Howard. Pretty much the spine of our team there for under £20million.

    Safest job in football until something better is offered to him. We should be begging him to stay!
  • Benjeey
    Posts: 320
    mikraz said:

    Ulsterman is right to have his opinion, but I guarantee we are all thick enough to love this club wherever it was. We just want better than the current hopelessness.


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    But the point I'm trying to make is that we won't get better with fans walking out on the team. We will with support
  • Willows82
    Posts: 148
    We'd end up with Mark Hughes or Steve McLaren if some people on here had their way!
  • Benjeey
    Posts: 320
    I truly believe that we would have been relegated if Moyes had not come to this club! People need to remember
  • ulsterman
    Posts: 202
    Benjeey said:

    mikraz said:

    Ulsterman is right to have his opinion, but I guarantee we are all thick enough to love this club wherever it was. We just want better than the current hopelessness.


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    But the point I'm trying to make is that we won't get better with fans walking out on the team. We will with support

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    im not saying to not turn up i know thats not going to help nor am i saying to go overboard like blackburn fans but to be fair how can we try and give the lads a morale boost when we get nothing back, their morale should be high for the amount they get paid and i dont want to hear some of them only get paid 25k a week try living on the fans wages and all of us paying saving sacrificing something just to get hold of a ticket to pay their wages, people is going to have enough and spend their money elsewhere like im going to not that im not going back i will just taking a break and using the money i would have used on everton to take me and the kids away on our first family holiday as our holidays was always in liverpool to see everton
  • mikraz
    Posts: 2,182
    Most people couldn't tell you who they would rather have in charge, and in reality we usually couldn't afford the manager top of wish list never mind fund any rebuilding they would want to do. We all know who needs to go and its not the ginger scot.
  • kingmoyes
    Posts: 1,841
    Benjeey said:

    I truly believe that we would have been relegated if Moyes had not come to this club! People need to remember


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    We do remember what he has done, but does he remember what this club is about?

    Its about showing heart and fight, if the players don't show it who is to blame?
  • Willows82
    Posts: 148
    kingmoyes said:

    Benjeey said:

    I truly believe that we would have been relegated if Moyes had not come to this club! People need to remember


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    We do remember what he has done, but does he remember what this club is about?

    Its about showing heart and fight, if the players don't show it who is to blame?

    -----------------The players, to be fair like.




  • rank1airwave
    Posts: 513
    Yeah it was a s h ite result but id rather have Moyes than Hughes or McLaren thats for sure! Theres no excuse especialy not the wind (as it helped us with Howards goal). Injuries went against us and Neville and Heitinga got out of position with the goals. Starquilarsi up front did a nice touch to put Donovan through but did he even have a shot?
  • ulsterman
    Posts: 202
    Willows82 said:

    kingmoyes said:

    Benjeey said:

    I truly believe that we would have been relegated if Moyes had not come to this club! People need to remember


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    We do remember what he has done, but does he remember what this club is about?

    Its about showing heart and fight, if the players don't show it who is to blame?

    -----------------The players, to be fair like.





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    yes the players are to blame but so is moyes he picked the team he gives them the team talk and is too scared to come out and openly blame the players he would rather blame the wind
  • mikraz
    Posts: 2,182
    Benjeey I agree and will probably never stop going no matter how hopeless it seems but I can certainly see why some people have to prioritise where they spend there hard earned, especially when bill the lord and bob earl are so careful about where they spend theirs.
  • Benjeey
    Posts: 320
    But he did blame the players. He said "you can't expect to win with a performance like that" He takes his fair share of responsibility to be fair. As for who's to blame I think it is the players, I agree with you ulsterman about the players having morale with high wages (or should do) but I don't think that is Moyes fault + as I've said, fans play a BIG role in confidence
  • Benjeey
    Posts: 320
    mikraz said:

    Benjeey I agree and will probably never stop going no matter how hopeless it seems but I can certainly see why some people have to prioritise where they spend there hard earned, especially when bill the lord and bob earl are so careful about where they spend theirs.


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    So why is Moyes to blame when bill gives him no money? Thats the poInt I'm making
  • ulsterman
    Posts: 202
    fans do play a huge role and the last  matches i was at norwich swansea sunderland the fans were quiet including myself but the players werent giving anything back or doing anything to make us good mad the way we normally do, the only thing everton is good at at the min is making other teams look good
  • mikraz
    Posts: 2,182
    Moyes is the public face of the club so will always be the first one to get it, its not right or fair but neither are people always.
  • Benjeey
    Posts: 320
    I've got a season ticket and I notice the silence. I sit there on a Saturday thinking about how it used to be and how it is now! It's a lot easier for the fans to chant than it is for the players to perform
  • Benjeey
    Posts: 320
    mikraz said:

    Moyes is the public face of the club so will always be the first one to get it, its not right or fair but neither are people always.


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    Exactly! Loads of factors contribute to bad performances and as you rightly said, it always gets piled on moyes
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