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Well everyone wanted 442
  • Willows82
    Posts: 148
    But what's the point when you've got 2 strikers that have only scored 1 goal between them all season?

    Here come the Vellios comments!
  • happyhound
    Posts: 156
    yes i wanted 4-4-2 but i didnt want those players to play it!

    Saha is a waste of space
    Straqularsi ran round and got stuck in but didnt look prem class
    Donovan should have had a pen
    cahill came on and as usual lately doesnt look like he could score in a brothel
    Nev hasnt got the legs for midfiled anymore
    sheitinga............name says it all


    so yes 4-4-2 but leave all of the above back at home!!!!!
  • Willows82
    Posts: 148
    Leave those out and we wouldn't have a team!

    And Donovan dived mate, to be honest!
  • happyhound
    Posts: 156
    he dived because he got pushed in the back-which is a pen
    we dont have a team? i would play this team that we dont have!
    howard hibbo (or nev as right back) jags distin baines drenthe osman fellaini coleman and donovan upfront with anichebe

    i would also give berkley more time than he has beeen getting which is 0 and i would sell cahill who cant play unless its in a 4-5-1 i would sell saha sell bily and sell rodwell and shiteinga and use that money to try to get a decent midfielder and a striker

    i realise not all those players were available tonight but we got rid of better players than we have in this squad (ie yakubu) every1 could see he needed a run of games and he was never given that but saha can play like a dog and be the 1st name on the teamsheet along with cahill!
  • lukep08
    Posts: 309
    blame the 4-4-2 get a clue you weirdo, playing 4-4-2 is what you need to do but not with two defenders centre mid a striker on the right wing and a centre mid on the left, moyes is a joke.
  • hollander
    Posts: 3
    go the match
  • jj1878
    Posts: 217
    Ive always wanted us to play 442, but im not sure weve got the players up front to do it or a strong enough 4 in midfield.  Our team is full of just below average players...name 1 game this season that we have convincingly won...for me that was the worst we have played all season, no ambition, no skill, no passion and we are so boring to watch....in the freezing cold its bad
  • lukep08
    Posts: 309
    Which one mate? theres loads around lol xxxxx
  • Willows82
    Posts: 148
    Before any more d1c4he4ds call me a weirdo - I wanted us to play 442 aswell, as mentioned above, we don't have the midfield for it, nor the strikers.

    If Donovan was pushed then i'll take it back but there was no contact with the legs as though he was tripped.

    To start Anichebe up front would be no different from starting Saha, apart from Saha has a record of getting goals and Anichebe has scored about as many as Baines in his Everton career!

    Moyes isn't a joke at all. Anybody in football will tell you that, saying that is like some warehouse skivvy saying the company owner is ****, because you don't go to training every day, you don't know the players and you think you can pick a starting 11 to beat anyody. We can all play computers, this is REAL LIFE!
  • happyhound
    Posts: 156
    yes it is real life so can u tell me when saha was last prolific as a striker? by my reckoning it was in his 1st season with united when he played in a 4-4-2.
    He isnt upto it anymore time for us and him to move on.
  • Mddlr
    Posts: 6
    lukep08 said:

    blame the 4-4-2 get a clue you weirdo, playing 4-4-2 is what you need to do but not with two defenders centre mid a striker on the right wing and a centre mid on the left, moyes is a joke.


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  • Mddlr
    Posts: 6
    Exactly.
  • Willows82
    Posts: 148
    Saha has been our best striker probably since before Yak got injured, around 2 years ago. 

    I agree that Nev and Heitinga in centre mid is wrong, see my other post about us having terrible players. Think what you want, you don't always know best.
  • OLD SWINGER
    Posts: 6
    Saha isnt doing it he has lost all his confidence. I have wanted us to play 4 4 2 for a long while but you have to position the players in the correct places. I love Neville but this year he has been dire he makes poor decisions every game & shouldn't be in the team. We need to play more with the ball passing between the players not one pass lets hit it long. To play 4 4 2 we need to be pressing higher up the pitch but we dont . Thats down to the tactics & the players not having the confidence to do it.They have the ability no question
  • Willows82
    Posts: 148
    You're right, Saha has no confidence whatsoever, you can tell that just by his twitter, and i don't even have twitter!
    He either needs a hat trick in his next game or to leave and find his feet somewhere else.

    He still is our best striker though, Vellios, Straq, whoever, none of them are as good as him, although they may be better to put in the team, they aren't better players.

    Without Drenthe we have no creativity, which you really need in 442, either that or Big Dunc and some nippy little striker next to him, we have nothing to support the 442 formation,

    Didn't we finish 4th playing 451? Bring back Marcus Bent!

    That's obviously a joke. We played 433 with Bent! :-)
  • 11blue
    Posts: 4,765
    We lost a game and we played 4 4 2, what about all of the times we have played poor and drawn or lost games while we have played 4 5 1? I still believe we should play 4 4 2 at home to every team, as we don't have a player who can lead the line on their own. Tonight the players let us and themselves down, not the formation.
  • Willows82
    Posts: 148
    Agreed.

    But we don't have 2 strikers that can play together either.

    We wanted this when we had Beattie and AJ together, Not Straq and Saha.

    451 suits our squad, and our manager right now. tonight proves that (Barring injuries of course)
  • 11blue
    Posts: 4,765
    To be honest, I don't understand how people are saying we must play 4 5 1 because it suits our squad even though we have drew or lost many games playing 4 5 1. I understand that we have a poor strike force but whenever Denis, Vellios or Saha have lead the line on their own they have struggled. I can think of many examples of when playing 4 4 2 has worked, and as I say, it was the players who let us and themselves down tonight, not the formation.
  • evo747
    Posts: 4
    We all want 442 but not on the windiest day of the year so far. Playing two up front just encouraged the midfield (or 6 man defence as I saw it) to play hoof ball - the last thing the conditions demanded.

    Bolton were better at getting the ball to ground and keeping it there. That's how they broke through our defence - not like us chasing Exocet missiles launched over the top......tonight Moyes is blaming the players for poor performance (which they were) but he was tactially inept too.
  • bogie619
    Posts: 20
    we have been playing 4-5-1 as we did not have the CM players to run the show then fans wanted 4-4-2 when we got the CM players to run the game do not think for one min that having 2 defenders in as CM players the cry for 4-4-2 will stop


    moyes might want to start thinking about round pegs in round holes take a look at the MF tonight not one of them plays that role as there best spot
  • Kim Jong-il
    Posts: 989
    Willows82 said:

    But what's the point when you've got 2 strikers that have only scored 1 goal between them all season?

    Here come the Vellios comments!


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