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Blue Union Meeting
  • gwladysstreet
    Posts: 125
    ToffeeCup said:

    ToffeeCup said:

    milky71 said:

    Toffeecup i respect your opinons more than most and wouldlike to know your views on the alleged secret taping of the meeting




    Would be pointless to speculate.

    You can understand, given the suspicion around the club and its situation currently, that all four of them would have been happy to have the conversation taped for practical reasons. After all it went on for three and a half hours.

    You can also envisage Kenwright not agreeing to it being taped and it just being an honest conversation between Evertonians.

    You would also not put it past some half witted walter mitty type taking in hidden recording equipment in the hope of catching Kenwright red handed admitting that he'd turned down the richest man on planet earth on the grounds that he wasn't going to be kept on as club ambassador.


    Without knowing if it was or wasn't taped....or if Kenwright did or didn't agree to it. There isn't really anything worth commenting on. Although, to be honest, maybe I don't know the latest details about it.

    What is know about it?



    So it was the latter:

    You would also not put it past some half witted walter mitty type taking in hidden
    recording equipment in the hope of catching Kenwright red handed admitting
    that he'd turned down the richest man on planet earth on the grounds that he
    wasn't going to be kept on as club ambassador.


    Bill didn't agree to it and the agreement was that the three would take notes.

    So just to recap.

    These three guys got a meeting with Evertons chairman who they accuse of not being honest with the fans. They lie to him about how the interview will be conducted, smuggle hidden recording into Bill Kenwrights office....and then accused Kenwright and the board, having had plenty of time to check their work and research the points that they will make to the waiting fans, of treating the fans with contempt by assuming they are unable to read the clubs accounts or the balance sheet going by the way they were spoken to in the meeting itself.

    Whilst making it clear that they have apparently no understanding of the meaning of even basic financial terms such as the different between an 'investment' and a 'loan'.

    That is just all manner of cringe worthy. And I hope the fans can see these pillocks for what they are.

    They took unpaid leave, and travelled at their own expense down to Kenwrights office you know!

    Jesus wept! Thats one seriously short staffed Mc Donalds they left behind.




    I think they were travelling down for teh Spurs game...
  • blue4eva77
    Posts: 276
    The problem we as a club now face is that every tom, d1ck and harry knows our situation. It may of been speculated before but now its right there for all to see. We now face a massive problem.....

    Its all very well saying we can sell this player and that player to fund the debt but clubs are not going to give you 25M for a Fellaini when they know a club is desperate for change. Im worried that bids of 8 or 9 million are going to be accepted for our top top players before long. Can a club such as ours, in the situation we are now in, keep rejecting bids and refusing players to leave.

    Its only a matter of time.

    A similar situation happened at Valencia not too long ago. They were selling their best players for pittance to balance the books
  • Michael Barrymore
    Posts: 762
    Beano said:

    Beano said:



    See you're just pulling figures from nowhere until you show me the official payments received/spent from an independent party like a bank and not random sites that speculate on a price (just like youre doing with a few of your price tags there) then you can get on your high horse





    1) There are no figures in that list that are pulled out of nowhere (which is why I left the Saha and Nash figures out as I would have been pulling them from nowhere)

    2) Not one of those amounts are way wide of the mark.

    3) Banks do not publish details of their customers' transactions - if they published mine, I'd sue!

    4) Everton on the other hand do publish official AUDITED numbers. They're called accounts and are available on the site

    5) Until you can show me a source that proves my figures significantly wrong, it is you who cant get on any high horse.

    6) You still haven't explained how the AJ money went to the banks when we spent £15 Million on Fellaini (an OFFICIAL figure which was also reported by the Standard Liege at the time) only 2 weeks after we sold him!



    Until you show me your source that prove yours and the clubs throwabout figures are significantly right I'll get of my high horse

    You sit there with your calculator and be patronised by Bill and pals


    Still not answering the question huh?
    I'm suprised (well, not really)

    Funny how Everton and the other party involved in these transactions (eg Standard Liege) all tend to come up with the same "throwabout" figure innit?


    Ahh the old standard liege counter for the 8th time

    Of course they aren't gonna say otherwise it looks like to their supporters it was a better deal than it was

    Are you that naive ? Of course you are youre a pro blue bill pudding lover
  • tickets11
    Posts: 1,002

    The problem we as a club now face is that every tom, d1ck and harry knows our situation. It may of been speculated before but now its right there for all to see. We now face a massive problem.....

    Its all very well saying we can sell this player and that player to fund the debt but clubs are not going to give you 25M for a Fellaini when they know a club is desperate for change. Im worried that bids of 8 or 9 million are going to be accepted for our top top players before long. Can a club such as ours, in the situation we are now in, keep rejecting bids and refusing players to leave.

    Its only a matter of time.

    A similar situation happened at Valencia not too long ago. They were selling their best players for pittance to balance the books



    2 years until moyes contract is up.

    i said before moyes now has 2 years left and thats what he has to aim for, i think he will stick with the same squad he has now more or less.

    the problem then is ofcourse is that in 2 years time players like jags, arteta, cahill, osman, hibbert, will all be int their 30s and yak, yobo nev distin will either retire/leave on a free/ or in yobos case for around 2m. and fellainis contract is up then aswell so could see him leave on a free.

    and then the new manager arrives so now i becomes his problem.
  • RobbieO
    Posts: 44
    I think it's good that he has the club at heart but when they are talking about selling the club I think the problem is we have too many investors and think they don't all want to sell. Bill isn't taking any money but I bet the others are. Pepole these days don't want to invest and have a potion of the club they want it all and I think tha's the problem. They didn't say "Bill you are trying to sell but are you just selling your share or all the investors shares?"

    I think Bill has done well but we cannot afford to run at £5m loss a year and they have seen this coming hence the reason we have been getting youngsters in, building from the base up, buy them cheap, use them or try to sell them at a profit.
  • deso1957bc
    Posts: 545
    Well the wagons have been circled and manager and players have dutifully trotted out the same old cliches...true supporter..always a blue etc etc.

    But nothing can hide the fact that this has been a public relations disaster for Bill and Everton FC.

    There may well be adverse reaction(not public) from other board members as a result.

    In any case this event has almost certainly hastened Bill's departure..
  • milky71
    Posts: 8,784
    I still love him

    He'sa true blue like.

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