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  • Benjeey
    Posts: 320
    Please can someone tell me why people on here seem to rate him still? What has he proved? He has so little awareness and for me he just does not have a clue!! Hes had so many chances and only had a handfull of good performances. I wanted to give him a chance but i have run out of patience. Im not a fan
  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,743
    I was embaressed for him today.......i think that lad has serious confidence issues and if we could recoup 5 million for him in jan then i would be over the moon.
  • Benjeey
    Posts: 320
    I'd be surprised if we even got that tbh! Its a real shame because i really wanted him to do well and he has shown glimpses of real class but he is far too inconsistent. Hes just not a winger
  • jwollnick
    Posts: 172
    Hmm.. from what I saw he was really good the first 20 minutes, perhaps one of our best in my opinion. Surprised to see him substituted in the 2nd half aswell. Everyone here is slating him, while I saw improvement. Very odd.
  • Beano
    Posts: 3,455
    Benjeey said:

    Please can someone tell me why people on here seem to rate him still?



    I don't know where you're getting this from? Who rates him? I only ever see him getting a hard time here!

    Bily starts many of his games reasonably well. But the lads confidence is so fragile, as soon as one thing goes wrong for him, you can forget about him for the day!
  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,743
    Beano said:

    Benjeey said:

    Please can someone tell me why people on here seem to rate him still?



    I don't know where you're getting this from? Who rates him? I only ever see him getting a hard time here!

    Bily starts many of his games reasonably well. But the lads confidence is so fragile, as soon as one thing goes wrong for him, you can forget about him for the day!

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    pretty much sums it up beano, its a shame, but you cant constantly give some one confidence, there is only so much you can say or do......
  • Benjeey
    Posts: 320
    Beano said:

    Benjeey said:

    Please can someone tell me why people on here seem to rate him still?



    I don't know where you're getting this from? Who rates him? I only ever see him getting a hard time here!

    Bily starts many of his games reasonably well. But the lads confidence is so fragile, as soon as one thing goes wrong for him, you can forget about him for the day!

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    Read the quote above yours sonny jim
  • Benjeey
    Posts: 320
    Besides people have had nothing but praise for him in other threads picking little things he done well in todays game like a successfull pass. Hes a footballer he should be making successful passes
  • xreyuk123
    Posts: 793
    He's never got up to the pace of the English game, and he's too much of a **** to go into a tackle.
  • mattyod
    Posts: 305
    Should have subbed him earlier but for Gueye or Denis. Moyes tactics suprise me again. I think he is a hero for Everton but he is starting to lose my faith in him especially this season when time and time his substitutes are defensive when we are losing and why will he not give Barkley a chance to add something creative when the ariel route is not working.

    Yesterday was painful watching. Even the matches we have won this season have been poor to watch.
  • Markie D
    Posts: 58
    jwollnick said:

    Hmm.. from what I saw he was really good the first 20 minutes, perhaps one of our best in my opinion. Surprised to see him substituted in the 2nd half aswell. Everyone here is slating him, while I saw improvement. Very odd.


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    What you saw was 'he had alot of the ball in the 1st 20mins'. He miss passed, fell over, touch it and hoped someone got on the end of it, moved into positions so the ball couldn't be passed to him.

    He was very bad. I do not think he should play again. Needs to be sold.
  • tickets11
    Posts: 1,002
    mattyod said:

    Should have subbed him earlier but for Gueye or Denis. Moyes tactics suprise me again. I think he is a hero for Everton but he is starting to lose my faith in him especially this season when time and time his substitutes are defensive when we are losing and why will he not give Barkley a chance to add something creative when the ariel route is not working.

    Yesterday was painful watching. Even the matches we have won this season have been poor to watch.


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    THIS^^^


    the win against blackburn 1-0 - arteta in the 93rd min after blackburn missed 2 penalties

    wigan 3-1- vellios and drenthe score 2 goals after 84 mins.

    fulham 3-1-we score 2 goals in stoppage time after zamora missed that sitter in the 89min

    2-1 wolves, baines penalty 83rd min

    2-0 bolton after they got a man sent off and even then we played poor.


    the blackburn and fulham results for certain we deserved to lose and could easily have been sitting in the relegation zone.

    when was the last time we actually played well for 90mins, turned over a team and deserved to win.


  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,743
    tickets11 said:

    mattyod said:

    Should have subbed him earlier but for Gueye or Denis. Moyes tactics suprise me again. I think he is a hero for Everton but he is starting to lose my faith in him especially this season when time and time his substitutes are defensive when we are losing and why will he not give Barkley a chance to add something creative when the ariel route is not working.

    Yesterday was painful watching. Even the matches we have won this season have been poor to watch.


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    THIS^^^


    the win against blackburn 1-0 - arteta in the 93rd min after blackburn missed 2 penalties

    wigan 3-1- vellios and drenthe score 2 goals after 84 mins.

    fulham 3-1-we score 2 goals in stoppage time after zamora missed that sitter in the 89min

    2-1 wolves, baines penalty 83rd min

    2-0 bolton after they got a man sent off and even then we played poor.


    the blackburn and fulham results for certain we deserved to lose and could easily have been sitting in the relegation zone.

    when was the last time we actually played well for 90mins, turned over a team and deserved to win.



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    Us scoring late goals says to me that we are in it for the 90 minutes and we play right to the end which is a good thing imo mate.

    I dont think we are playing particularly well, but theres games you can look at and say we shouldnt have lost or drawn.

    We should have beat Villa at home.

    We should have had something out of the Manure game.

    We should have really beaten Chelsea in the league cup.

    We should have had at least a draw from the QPR game.

    We got beaten by a deflected goal against Stoke or they wouldnt have scored this side of christmas, so theres another draw.

    We lost to the RS cos the daft referee sent one of our men off after 20minutes and it shouldnt have been a red, Who knows how the game would have turned out there?

    We should have had a penalty at the cartoon army and deserved at least a point there.

    For every game you say we were lucky mate, theres also points to be made against games we should have got more out of it and were unlucky. imo.

    It swings in roundabouts at the end of the day.
  • tickets11
    Posts: 1,002

    when we are losing we attack in the last 10mins,  but this means hetinga, baines and fellaini all going forward.  the opposition can counter act this by putting 2 upfront.


    and most of those games you mention is because we couldnt create anything infront of goal.

    its no use moyes selling vaughn, yak and beckford and then coming out and saying i think we may struggle infront of goal.

    ontop of that moyes tactics and substitutions have been to blame.


    vellios and straq arent goo enough to start, anichebe we all know what he offers meaninig a 33 year old saha is the only real striker we have that is good enough to start.

    people asked for vellios to start the 2 games he has started he hasnt been good enough, clearly he isnt ready

  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,743
    tickets11 said:

    when we are losing we attack in the last 10mins,  but this means hetinga, baines and fellaini all going forward.  the opposition can counter act this by putting 2 upfront.


    and most of those games you mention is because we couldnt create anything infront of goal.

    its no use moyes selling vaughn, yak and beckford and then coming out and saying i think we may struggle infront of goal.

    ontop of that moyes tactics and substitutions have been to blame.


    vellios and straq arent goo enough to start, anichebe we all know what he offers meaninig a 33 year old saha is the only real striker we have that is good enough to start.

    people asked for vellios to start the 2 games he has started he hasnt been good enough, clearly he isnt ready


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    No this is true, but you had to laugh!

    And i agree, Vellios isnt ready and either needs using as a sub or having somebody play alongside him upfront or he will struggle. its ok coming on for 15-20 minutes and putting yourself about and grafting, its a different kettle of fish doing it for 90 mins.
  • Jayee019
    Posts: 902
    Hate to say it but he needs to go
  • Blue4Me
    Posts: 47
    Benjeey said:

    Please can someone tell me why people on here seem to rate him still? What has he proved? He has so little awareness and for me he just does not have a clue!! Hes had so many chances and only had a handfull of good performances. I wanted to give him a chance but i have run out of patience. Im not a fan


    -----------------They're BillyletHimoff fans!




  • Blue4Me
    Posts: 47
    sambo applecart said:

    I was embaressed for him today.......i think that lad has serious confidence issues and if we could recoup 5 million for him in jan then i would be over the moon.


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    I think that would be Billymoneyoff
  • lukep08
    Posts: 309
    last game we won easily that i can remember was wolves away last year, maybe blackburn at home but i was on holiday that game, just not good enough
  • Knoxy2001e
    Posts: 1,430
    I dont think that bilys performance was any worse than the rest of the team. we lacked inspiration and i dont think their goalie had to make one serious save in the whole game.
  • Ivdlit
    Posts: 2,162
    sambo applecart said:

    tickets11 said:

    mattyod said:

    Should have subbed him earlier but for Gueye or Denis. Moyes tactics suprise me again. I think he is a hero for Everton but he is starting to lose my faith in him especially this season when time and time his substitutes are defensive when we are losing and why will he not give Barkley a chance to add something creative when the ariel route is not working.

    Yesterday was painful watching. Even the matches we have won this season have been poor to watch.


    -----------------



    THIS^^^


    the win against blackburn 1-0 - arteta in the 93rd min after blackburn missed 2 penalties

    wigan 3-1- vellios and drenthe score 2 goals after 84 mins.

    fulham 3-1-we score 2 goals in stoppage time after zamora missed that sitter in the 89min

    2-1 wolves, baines penalty 83rd min

    2-0 bolton after they got a man sent off and even then we played poor.


    the blackburn and fulham results for certain we deserved to lose and could easily have been sitting in the relegation zone.

    when was the last time we actually played well for 90mins, turned over a team and deserved to win.



    -----------------



    Us scoring late goals says to me that we are in it for the 90 minutes and we play right to the end which is a good thing imo mate.

    I dont think we are playing particularly well, but theres games you can look at and say we shouldnt have lost or drawn.

    We should have beat Villa at home.

    We should have had something out of the Manure game.

    We should have really beaten Chelsea in the league cup.

    We should have had at least a draw from the QPR game.

    We got beaten by a deflected goal against Stoke or they wouldnt have scored this side of christmas, so theres another draw.

    We lost to the RS cos the daft referee sent one of our men off after 20minutes and it shouldnt have been a red, Who knows how the game would have turned out there?

    We should have had a penalty at the cartoon army and deserved at least a point there.

    For every game you say we were lucky mate, theres also points to be made against games we should have got more out of it and were unlucky. imo.

    It swings in roundabouts at the end of the day.

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    you said, thank you so much, Sambo! For contributing to the hope.

    Knoxy2001e said:

    I dont think that bilys performance was any worse than the rest of the team. we lacked inspiration and i dont think their goalie had to make one serious save in the whole game.


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    Thank you too, mate, you said it too.
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