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Moyes aware of weakness...
  • OldGoldenVision
    Posts: 19,472
    He's admitted we need a striker - but not really discussed the ones we have. He's pretty much said he expects 15-20 a season from his striker. I think he will go for a striker in January and I wouldnt be surprised if he splashes out all of the 50p that that fan threw at Suarez during the derby!

    I'm sure the club said he could have spent the Arteta money so if we have that and sell Bily we should do okay.
  • 11blue
    Posts: 4,669
    I don't understand why he goes on about how we are lacking goals yet he leaves our top scorer (Vellios) on the bench every week!
  • kingmoyes
    Posts: 1,841
    If Vellios scored a hat trick next week he still wudnt start.......

    Moyes loves goals from defenders
    4-6-0
  • 11blue
    Posts: 4,669
    kingmoyes said:

    If Vellios scored a hat trick next week he still wudnt start.......


    Moyes loves goals from defenders
    4-6-0

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    4-6-0 is far too positive for Moyes, he will play 8-2-0 next week.
  • xreyuk123
    Posts: 785
    No striker will get that many goals in a season playing our formation. I don't understand how an experience manager can be so stupid?
  • 11blue
    Posts: 4,669
    xreyuk123 said:

    No striker will get that many goals in a season playing our formation. I don't understand how an experience manager can be so stupid?


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    Exactly, it seems everyone can see this but the man himself!
  • Warrington Dan
    Posts: 8,858
    If he was really aware of the weaknesses he'd stop trying to play Victor Anichebe
  • 11blue
    Posts: 4,669
    Warrington Dan said:

    If he was really aware of the weaknesses he'd stop trying to play Victor Anichebe


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    That's what I am saying really. He is winning games which is the most important thing, but he hasn't changed his tactics.
  • Warrington Dan
    Posts: 8,858
    11blue said:

    Warrington Dan said:

    If he was really aware of the weaknesses he'd stop trying to play Victor Anichebe


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    That's what I am saying really. He is winning games which is the most important thing, but he hasn't changed his tactics.

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    He's just playing sh|t teams 
  • OldGoldenVision
    Posts: 19,472
    he has changed his tactics. Two games playing 4-4-2. Why the **** doesnt anyone else see this. Saha and Cahill have played up front. Not five across the middle.. GRRRR!!!!!!       
  • 11blue
    Posts: 4,669
    Warrington Dan said:

    11blue said:

    Warrington Dan said:

    If he was really aware of the weaknesses he'd stop trying to play Victor Anichebe


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    That's what I am saying really. He is winning games which is the most important thing, but he hasn't changed his tactics.

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    He's just playing sh|t teams 

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    True, but I don't know how he cannot see what everyone else can see. He is on something like £70k a week now, I wonder what he was on at Preston or even when he first came here. He couldn't have been on more than £20K a week surely?
  • 11blue
    Posts: 4,669
    OldGoldenVision said:

    he has changed his tactics. Two games playing 4-4-2. Why the **** doesnt anyone else see this. Saha and Cahill have played up front. Not five across the middle.. GRRRR!!!!!!       


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    Cahill is a midfielder though, and he hasn't scored for a year!!!


  • OldGoldenVision
    Posts: 19,472
    He is being used as a forward.
  • moysyboy1943
    Posts: 130
    OldGoldenVision said:

    He is being used as a forward.


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    why.....why cahill when we have forwards sittin on the bench!!!!!!!!!!
  • OldGoldenVision
    Posts: 19,472
    I agree with this mate! I dont know why.  I would love to see him start with Vellios and Straq or Saha or even one of the youngsters.
  • Warrington Dan
    Posts: 8,858
    moysyboy1943 said:

    OldGoldenVision said:

    He is being used as a forward.


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    why.....why cahill when we have forwards sittin on the bench!!!!!!!!!!

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    Because he is a fantastic link between the midfield and attack. Didn't you see his Xavi passes against Bolton? Pure sexy football!!! David Silva eat ya heart out!!! TIM CAHILL 17 LEGEND

    Out jump this 
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  • weverett
    Posts: 137
    Moyes' love for cahill forces him into this weak lineup and is losing matches.  One awesome pass v bolton does not make up for what has been a horribly underperforming year.
  • 11blue
    Posts: 4,669
    Warrington Dan said:

    moysyboy1943 said:

    OldGoldenVision said:

    He is being used as a forward.


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    why.....why cahill when we have forwards sittin on the bench!!!!!!!!!!

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    Because he is a fantastic link between the midfield and attack. Didn't you see his Xavi passes against Bolton? Pure sexy football!!! David Silva eat ya heart out!!! TIM CAHILL 17 LEGEND

    Out jump this 
    image

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    I don't care how high he jumped 2 years ago FFS!
  • Warrington Dan
    Posts: 8,858
    weverett said:

    Moyes' love for cahill forces him into this weak lineup and is losing matches.  One awesome pass v bolton does not make up for what has been a horribly underperforming year.


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    I saw 3 :D In Cahill We Trust and either way there's no one at the club I'd rather see there. Id like to see Vellios for Saha and Saha can take on the role of 'super sub' and although I wouldn't mind seeing Bilyaletdinov behind the striker I prefer Cahill to be there on a more regular basis. 
  • weverett
    Posts: 137
    Warrington Dan said:

    weverett said:

    Moyes' love for cahill forces him into this weak lineup and is losing matches.  One awesome pass v bolton does not make up for what has been a horribly underperforming year.


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    I saw 3 :D In Cahill We Trust and either way there's no one at the club I'd rather see there. Id like to see Vellios for Saha and Saha can take on the role of 'super sub' and although I wouldn't mind seeing Bilyaletdinov behind the striker I prefer Cahill to be there on a more regular basis. 

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    This is where you and I disagree philosophically.  I think cahll is a good player (not as good as you view him), but he is not in a position where he can be effective.  we lose too much putting him in that particular role.  I think moyes likes him there because a couple years ago when we had dire need cahill stepped up.  He isnt stepping up now and needs to be benched or moved to a new role.  Put him back where ossie has been, put barkley or bily or pair velios with saha (assume he insists on playing saha) and we get the firepower needed to score goals.

    we lose games because we dont score.  it's not that we dont have opportunities, we simply do not convert.  this is moyes' fault.
  • Warrington Dan
    Posts: 8,858
    weverett said:

    Warrington Dan said:

    weverett said:

    Moyes' love for cahill forces him into this weak lineup and is losing matches.  One awesome pass v bolton does not make up for what has been a horribly underperforming year.


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    I saw 3 :D In Cahill We Trust and either way there's no one at the club I'd rather see there. Id like to see Vellios for Saha and Saha can take on the role of 'super sub' and although I wouldn't mind seeing Bilyaletdinov behind the striker I prefer Cahill to be there on a more regular basis. 

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    This is where you and I disagree philosophically.  I think cahll is a good player (not as good as you view him), but he is not in a position where he can be effective.  we lose too much putting him in that particular role.  I think moyes likes him there because a couple years ago when we had dire need cahill stepped up.  He isnt stepping up now and needs to be benched or moved to a new role.  Put him back where ossie has been, put barkley or bily or pair velios with saha (assume he insists on playing saha) and we get the firepower needed to score goals.

    we lose games because we dont score.  it's not that we dont have opportunities, we simply do not convert.  this is moyes' fault.

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    I wouldn't play Barkley. He's not good enough YET. Barkley will be a good player but TBH he's 17 and not ready for the Prem. In two or three years he's going to be an exceptional player but at the moment I'd only give him the occasional substitute appearance. It would be interesting to see Bilyaletdinov play there because he has a great left foot on him but as for Vellios I'd play him instead of Saha. I'm sick of watching Saha lazily walking about the place. 
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