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We need
  • cjohno
    Posts: 5,105
    a quality right mid and a quality right back hibbert and coleman are shhhhhhhhhhhhite maybe donavan in january ( i would even take beckham) as for right back anyone whos got a clue, wide players are so important in this day and age we cant carry 2 totally poor players all season.
  • Phantomblue
    Posts: 418
    dont know what game you was watching coleman had a good game, ran their right back all day, but could use another right mid has he wont last the session, dont want him to have a burn out.
  • AllAroundMyHat
    Posts: 771
    colemans the one bright light for us i feel. cant believe ur saying he`s naff. but we do need a RB. someone who can push on like Baynes
  • cjohno
    Posts: 5,105
    colemans final ball 99% of the time is very poor, he only goes by a full back if they over comit themselves if a full back stands his ground hes foooked, , with 1 striker we need someone with a good final ball and delivery colemans isnt good enough. and saying nothing about our right backs. hes just an average player we need better quality, my opinion anyway, whether he has the odd good game in 10 hes still not good enough. as for being a bright light i disagree.
  • mattyod
    Posts: 305
    I feel he has done well for us but agreed our problem is variety and getting quality crosses in. We are getting predictable and teams know if they stop Baines getting the ball in then you stop Cahill scoring. I feel before we focus on the right we need a ball player how can pass the ball around allowing us to hold on to possession like Arteta did for us in his early years. Maybe Barkley is the man for the job but we will never know if he never plays.

    I think with this playmaker we will get Baines back in the game and the wide mids will become more of a threat.I do like Drenthe and in the first half he looked quality.
  • cjohno
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    mattyod said:

    I feel he has done well for us but agreed our problem is variety and getting quality crosses in. We are getting predictable and teams know if they stop Baines getting the ball in then you stop Cahill scoring. I feel before we focus on the right we need a ball player how can pass the ball around allowing us to hold on to possession like Arteta did for us in his early years. Maybe Barkley is the man for the job but we will never know if he never plays.

    I think with this playmaker we will get Baines back in the game and the wide mids will become more of a threat.I do like Drenthe and in the first half he looked quality.


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    well im sure we could get donavon on loan in january and agree about barkley maybe try him in front of rodwell and felliani give him a free roll see what he can do. and i like drenthe.

  • sambo applecart
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    AllAroundMyHat said:

    colemans the one bright light for us i feel. cant believe ur saying he`s naff. but we do need a RB. someone who can push on like Baynes


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    probably the same reason why you dont think fellaini isnt all that, people's opinions isnt it......
  • zagan
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    sambo applecart said:

    AllAroundMyHat said:

    colemans the one bright light for us i feel. cant believe ur saying he`s naff. but we do need a RB. someone who can push on like Baynes


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    probably the same reason why you dont think fellaini isnt all that, people's opinions isnt it......

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    get in there son....
  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,105
    zagan said:

    sambo applecart said:

    AllAroundMyHat said:

    colemans the one bright light for us i feel. cant believe ur saying he`s naff. but we do need a RB. someone who can push on like Baynes


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    probably the same reason why you dont think fellaini isnt all that, people's opinions isnt it......

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    get in there son....

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    BOOM! AV IT!
  • zagan
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    sambo applecart said:

    zagan said:

    sambo applecart said:

    AllAroundMyHat said:

    colemans the one bright light for us i feel. cant believe ur saying he`s naff. but we do need a RB. someone who can push on like Baynes


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    probably the same reason why you dont think fellaini isnt all that, people's opinions isnt it......

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    get in there son....

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    BOOM! AV IT!

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    im starting to like you more and more...
  • milky71
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    I'm not a lover of Felli and think Coleman is just head down and run.

    If the Defender shows himthe outside he will 9 times out 10 run out of ideas.

    Drenthe could be deployed on the right as he seems dangerous cutting in.

    Would also like Donovan back
  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,105
    zagan said:

    sambo applecart said:

    zagan said:

    sambo applecart said:

    AllAroundMyHat said:

    colemans the one bright light for us i feel. cant believe ur saying he`s naff. but we do need a RB. someone who can push on like Baynes


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    probably the same reason why you dont think fellaini isnt all that, people's opinions isnt it......

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    get in there son....

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    BOOM! AV IT!

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    im starting to like you more and more...

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    Love is in the air ;)
  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,105
    milky71 said:

    I'm not a lover of Felli and think Coleman is just head down and run.

    If the Defender shows himthe outside he will 9 times out 10 run out of ideas.

    Drenthe could be deployed on the right as he seems dangerous cutting in.

    Would also like Donovan back


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    i do like felli milky, i think if he can be left to do that holding job for the rest of the season infront of the back 4 we will see the very best of him, even if we had sold him, i dont think we could get as good a replacement in that position with the money we could get for him. As for Coleman, yesterday he was one of the better players, but he is a bit of a 1 trick pony, he fakes, then goes and does it every time, he needs to add more to his arsenal imo.....and i completely agree, i think drenthe would be better on the right as he does look dangerous cutting inside, but moyes wont do this cos that would surely mean giving gueye a chanee on the left........
  • milky71
    Posts: 8,706
    Felli is a decent player but imo not as good people want to make out.

    I feelwe really missed Rodwell yesterday and why won' t Moyes play Barklay
  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,105
    milky71 said:

    Felli is a decent player but imo not as good people want to make out.

    I feelwe really missed Rodwell yesterday and why won' t Moyes play Barklay


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    yes i think we missed Jack yesterday, we didnt look as balanced.....and dont get me started on why Barkley doesnt get a game! grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
  • AllAroundMyHat
    Posts: 771
    sambo applecart said:

    AllAroundMyHat said:

    colemans the one bright light for us i feel. cant believe ur saying he`s naff. but we do need a RB. someone who can push on like Baynes


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    probably the same reason why you dont think fellaini isnt all that, people's opinions isnt it......

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    yeh sure is
  • mattyod
    Posts: 305
    Disagree with missing Jack. He is definitely one of our best players this season but he is more defensive. Our problem was getting forward. I am a big Felliani fan if we play him DM because he is excellent at protecting the back 4 and just needs to stop the petty fouls around the box.

    Milky you said it yourself we need to play players in their right position and to me Jack is a DM not an attacking option.

    I do want to see Jack play and highly rate him but not if we lose attacking players.Agree with the calls for Barkley and also Gueye because I believe they could have offered us that skill to breakdown the Wolves defence.
  • cjohno
    Posts: 5,105
    well we could sell felli and sign piennar and arteta back, play rodwell holding midfielder problem solved piennar on leftt , drenthe on right jack and arteta in centre with barkley just in front supporting the forward in a free role :-)
  • milky71
    Posts: 8,706
    mattyod said:

    Disagree with missing Jack. He is definitely one of our best players this season but he is more defensive. Our problem was getting forward. I am a big Felliani fan if we play him DM because he is excellent at protecting the back 4 and just needs to stop the petty fouls around the box.

    Milky you said it yourself we need to play players in their right position and to me Jack is a DM not an attacking option.

    I do want to see Jack play and highly rate him but not if we lose attacking players.Agree with the calls for Barkley and also Gueye because I believe they could have offered us that skill to breakdown the Wolves defence.



    I see jack as a Lampard style player.

    The player who has the free role to get forward if poss especially when playing the formation Moyes favours.

    Sort of 4141 with Felli holding Rodwell and possibly Barklay making more forward roles.

    Jack showed for England he can get forward.

    1 problem with Jack is he isn't the most skillful
  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,105
    milky71 said:

    mattyod said:

    Disagree with missing Jack. He is definitely one of our best players this season but he is more defensive. Our problem was getting forward. I am a big Felliani fan if we play him DM because he is excellent at protecting the back 4 and just needs to stop the petty fouls around the box.

    Milky you said it yourself we need to play players in their right position and to me Jack is a DM not an attacking option.

    I do want to see Jack play and highly rate him but not if we lose attacking players.Agree with the calls for Barkley and also Gueye because I believe they could have offered us that skill to breakdown the Wolves defence.



    I see jack as a Lampard style player.

    The player who has the free role to get forward if poss especially when playing the formation Moyes favours.

    Sort of 4141 with Felli holding Rodwell and possibly Barklay making more forward roles.

    Jack showed for England he can get forward.

    1 problem with Jack is he isn't the most skillful

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    i like the sounds of this milky!
  • mattyod
    Posts: 305
    showed more potential this season at getting forward but still think he is an excellent DM.

    I think you said it yourself that he is not the most skillful player and to me that is exactly what is needed in the middle. Yesterday I don't think we would have created more with him there but don't get me wrong highly rate him and glad he has proved his pre - season critics wrong.
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