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Evertoneo said:Yeah we need someone to link up the play between midfield and attack. Arteta used to do it back when he was good for us and Ossie towards the end of last season and now although his form has dipped a bit.
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HOWIE8 said:Dont know if the right striker is out there to suit Moyes needs. Nearest i can think of for Moyes stubborness to play 4-5-1 to make it work is Kevin Davies, but then we havent got a midfield with enough pace to make it work. Its the reason 4-5-1 doesnt work now, we havent got the players who are quick enough to support the attack and then back track after, thats why you see the 4-5-1 in such a cautious, defensive state, they are terrified of being caught out upfield............
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HOWIE8 said:Dont know if the right striker is out there to suit Moyes needs. Nearest i can think of for Moyes stubborness to play 4-5-1 to make it work is Kevin Davies, but then we havent got a midfield with enough pace to make it work. Its the reason 4-5-1 doesnt work now, we havent got the players who are quick enough to support the attack and then back track after, thats why you see the 4-5-1 in such a cautious, defensive state, they are terrified of being caught out upfield............
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IhateRS said:
HOWIE8 said:Dont know if the right striker is out there to suit Moyes needs. Nearest i can think of for Moyes stubborness to play 4-5-1 to make it work is Kevin Davies, but then we havent got a midfield with enough pace to make it work. Its the reason 4-5-1 doesnt work now, we havent got the players who are quick enough to support the attack and then back track after, thats why you see the 4-5-1 in such a cautious, defensive state, they are terrified of being caught out upfield............
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Drenthe and Coleman are pretty quick and pacey enough to get shifting down the wings ebfore the oppoisiton can re-group... Gives a chance to get theball in behind to Cahill and Saha.. These two are great players to have when it comes to crosses normally.
11blue said:I agree that we need a top class striker but we also need to be more adventurous. We play 4 5 1 every week no matter who we are playing and other team know exactly how we are going to play. We have had striker who have came to the club with big reputations such as Yakubu, Andy Johnson and James Beattie, but in truth they have been ruined by playing up front on their own. It is fair to say that we could do with a new striker but you have to be very good to play up front on your own. I think that it is obvious that we would score more goals if we would play 4 4 2 a bit more often.
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HOWIE8 said:
IhateRS said:
HOWIE8 said:Dont know if the right striker is out there to suit Moyes needs. Nearest i can think of for Moyes stubborness to play 4-5-1 to make it work is Kevin Davies, but then we havent got a midfield with enough pace to make it work. Its the reason 4-5-1 doesnt work now, we havent got the players who are quick enough to support the attack and then back track after, thats why you see the 4-5-1 in such a cautious, defensive state, they are terrified of being caught out upfield............
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Drenthe and Coleman are pretty quick and pacey enough to get shifting down the wings ebfore the oppoisiton can re-group... Gives a chance to get theball in behind to Cahill and Saha.. These two are great players to have when it comes to crosses normally.
Your right about their pace on the flanks, but thats were it doesnt work, still leaves only Saha or A.N Other striker in the middle, as the middle 3 are terrified of moving up, why do you think Cahill hasnt scored for so long......
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zagan said:
HOWIE8 said:
IhateRS said:
HOWIE8 said:Dont know if the right striker is out there to suit Moyes needs. Nearest i can think of for Moyes stubborness to play 4-5-1 to make it work is Kevin Davies, but then we havent got a midfield with enough pace to make it work. Its the reason 4-5-1 doesnt work now, we havent got the players who are quick enough to support the attack and then back track after, thats why you see the 4-5-1 in such a cautious, defensive state, they are terrified of being caught out upfield............
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Drenthe and Coleman are pretty quick and pacey enough to get shifting down the wings ebfore the oppoisiton can re-group... Gives a chance to get theball in behind to Cahill and Saha.. These two are great players to have when it comes to crosses normally.
Your right about their pace on the flanks, but thats were it doesnt work, still leaves only Saha or A.N Other striker in the middle, as the middle 3 are terrified of moving up, why do you think Cahill hasnt scored for so long......-----------------
Because he is off form.....simple as that really......
HOWIE8 said:
zagan said:
HOWIE8 said:
IhateRS said:
HOWIE8 said:Dont know if the right striker is out there to suit Moyes needs. Nearest i can think of for Moyes stubborness to play 4-5-1 to make it work is Kevin Davies, but then we havent got a midfield with enough pace to make it work. Its the reason 4-5-1 doesnt work now, we havent got the players who are quick enough to support the attack and then back track after, thats why you see the 4-5-1 in such a cautious, defensive state, they are terrified of being caught out upfield............
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Drenthe and Coleman are pretty quick and pacey enough to get shifting down the wings ebfore the oppoisiton can re-group... Gives a chance to get theball in behind to Cahill and Saha.. These two are great players to have when it comes to crosses normally.
Your right about their pace on the flanks, but thats were it doesnt work, still leaves only Saha or A.N Other striker in the middle, as the middle 3 are terrified of moving up, why do you think Cahill hasnt scored for so long......-----------------
Because he is off form.....simple as that really......
bolox
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