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"There will always be at least 4 or 5 teams who are not as good"
  • Richard Keys
    Posts: 824
    Well the league table says otherwise.....

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  • 1ceablue
    Posts: 3,253

    Well the league table says otherwise.....

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    Win our game in hand and we go to 13th.......
  • milky71
    Posts: 8,785
    We are **** until Xmas
  • IhateRS
    Posts: 1,091
    2002-03   7th
    2003-04 17th
    2004-05 4th
    2005-06 11th
    2006-07 6th
    2007-08 5th
    2008-09 5th
    2009-10 8th
    2010-11 7th

    You reckon 17th will be our finishing position?
    Well done for highlighting us when we have just played the top 6 in a row..
    Lets give it a few games against reasonable opposition eh?
  • Richard Keys
    Posts: 824
    IhateRS said:

    2002-03   7th
    2003-04 17th
    2004-05 4th
    2005-06 11th
    2006-07 6th
    2007-08 5th
    2008-09 5th
    2009-10 8th
    2010-11 7th

    You reckon 17th will be our finishing position?
    Well done for highlighting us when we have just played the top 6 in a row..
    Lets give it a few games against reasonable opposition eh?

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    And we got beaten every gmae bar versus Fulham

    And what does your list of finishing positions warrant towards the current one now? What did we win for finishing 4th,5th and 6th?
  • HOWIE8
    Posts: 7,580
    1ceablue said:

    Well the league table says otherwise.....

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    Win our game in hand and we go to 13th.......


    against Spurs away.......hope your right!!!!
  • IhateRS
    Posts: 1,091


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    And we got beaten every gmae bar versus Fulham

    And what does your list of finishing positions warrant towards the current one now? What did we win for finishing 4th,5th and 6th?

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    Your thread is the same as every other anti-Everton thread we have had over the last decade when we start badly... we are not doing well.. its all over.. we suck.. Moyes out...

    Point of my league table over yours is that mine shows where we finish every year, yours shows a small extract of the season and claims that we are not going to be above 16th this season.. Records show this is a common view yet we finish.. well as I have posted.

    What have Newcastle won this decade, would you rather of been them going down and coming back up for one good early start? Have you not noticed our run of games? Have you not noticed how many we could of easily won or picked up points with a decent ref?

    Congrats on using the most tired of cliche's that Moyes has won nothing. true . But we didn't get relegated which is where we were heading.. So many don't know their history but sing the song anyway...

    What right have we to expect Moyes to win the fking league on less than a million a year in transfer fees when the starting squad was so poor?



  • HOWIE8
    Posts: 7,580
    .........and according to Kensh41te weve got the best Manager in the world right now........thank god for that ehh......doesnt look well though does he.........
  • Richard Keys
    Posts: 824
    IhateRS said:


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    And we got beaten every gmae bar versus Fulham

    And what does your list of finishing positions warrant towards the current one now? What did we win for finishing 4th,5th and 6th?

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    Your thread is the same as every other anti-Everton thread we have had over the last decade when we start badly... we are not doing well.. its all over.. we suck.. Moyes out...

    Point of my league table over yours is that mine shows where we finish every year, yours shows a small extract of the season and claims that we are not going to be above 16th this season.. Records show this is a common view yet we finish.. well as I have posted.

    What have Newcastle won this decade, would you rather of been them going down and coming back up for one good early start? Have you not noticed our run of games? Have you not noticed how many we could of easily won or picked up points with a decent ref?

    Congrats on using the most tired of cliche's that Moyes has won nothing. true . But we didn't get relegated which is where we were heading.. So many don't know their history but sing the song anyway...

    What right have we to expect Moyes to win the fking league on less than a million a year in transfer fees when the starting squad was so poor?




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    Now now my 40 year old everton shirt wearing fellowtonian I'm not against Moyes at all so there goes that argument i'm against the board and chairman (if thats what you can even accuse them of being) . Moyes has 2 hands tied behind his back in a 1 versus 19 fight.

    So I suggest you rewrite your post as the old clichés are wearing thin too fatty.
  • cjohno
    Posts: 5,190
    one of these days were not going to perform after xmas and looking at whats there at the moment could be this year, there maybe 5/6 worse teams but were in the mix for relegation spot by xmas and we may have lost a lot of ground to pull away, if we dont get wins vs wolves, norwich and swansea were in the shiiiiiiit big time, were lucky to have 10 points, this so called team spirit and our battling qualities have totally gone everyone looks in need of a kick up the **** but moyes aint gonna do it.this season just doesnt feel like the others i was always reasonably confident of geting out of trouble in the past, we had some quality ball players like arteta and pienaar, now weve got nothing and nobody who looks like pulling us out of this predicament and i include moyes in that, im worried this season .
  • cjohno
    Posts: 5,190

    IhateRS said:


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    And we got beaten every gmae bar versus Fulham

    And what does your list of finishing positions warrant towards the current one now? What did we win for finishing 4th,5th and 6th?

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    Your thread is the same as every other anti-Everton thread we have had over the last decade when we start badly... we are not doing well.. its all over.. we suck.. Moyes out...

    Point of my league table over yours is that mine shows where we finish every year, yours shows a small extract of the season and claims that we are not going to be above 16th this season.. Records show this is a common view yet we finish.. well as I have posted.

    What have Newcastle won this decade, would you rather of been them going down and coming back up for one good early start? Have you not noticed our run of games? Have you not noticed how many we could of easily won or picked up points with a decent ref?

    Congrats on using the most tired of cliche's that Moyes has won nothing. true . But we didn't get relegated which is where we were heading.. So many don't know their history but sing the song anyway...

    What right have we to expect Moyes to win the fking league on less than a million a year in transfer fees when the starting squad was so poor?




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    Now now my 40 year old everton shirt wearing fellowtonian I'm not against Moyes at all so there goes that argument i'm against the board and chairman (if thats what you can even accuse them of being) . Moyes has 2 hands tied behind his back in a 1 versus 19 fight.

    So I suggest you rewrite your post as the old clichés are wearing thin too fatty.

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    moyes has always been in a similar predicament the difference was he got on with it and instilled belief and confidence into his players, now his whole body language and teams performances just looks stale and negative and it shows in the players lack of urgency and will to win, it was totally summed up yesterday, we had newcastle by the balls and just tickled them, we never won a single 50/50 or a second ball, totally no urgency even in the last 10 minutes to say it was lacklustre would be an understatement.

  • AllAroundMyHat
    Posts: 776
    from what i saw yesterday on MOTD we looked alrite against newcastle. good possession and made chances. we lost to an OG and a wonder goal, so although very disappointing result, based on the highlights it looked a decent performance.
    but a win is vital V wolves coz if we dont i fear a relegation scrap is on our hands
  • AndyForsyth
    Posts: 2,523
    We did look better in the second half, but our first half performance was very poor indeed.
  • ToffeeCup
    Posts: 3,043

    Own goal and a wonder goal. And we couldn't really finish for toffee. Saha was as confident (shooting from anywhere) as he was inaccurate.

    Think we've just had a bad run really. Both in terms of fixtures and decisions. But our luck will change, and a striker in jan is very much needed too.

    I'm not one to have a pop at McFadden, but I thought that was pretty harsh on billy. Although maybe not as he was gash against united.

    Either way, looks like he'll be sold to Russia in jan.
  • tickets11
    Posts: 1,002
    ToffeeCup said:


    Own goal and a wonder goal. And we couldn't really finish for toffee. Saha was as confident (shooting from anywhere) as he was inaccurate.

    Think we've just had a bad run really. Both in terms of fixtures and decisions. But our luck will change, and a striker in jan is very much needed too.

    I'm not one to have a pop at McFadden, but I thought that was pretty harsh on billy. Although maybe not as he was gash against united.

    Either way, looks like he'll be sold to Russia in jan.


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    are you fogetting blackburn missing 2 penalties and us getting a soft decision in the last minute of that game

    and scoring twice after fulham could easily have won that game.


    We could so easily be sitting on 4 point right now, luck is the reason we have 10.


    and a striker was needed back in the summer which is obvious really after we sold 3 strikers.

  • IhateRS
    Posts: 1,091
    tickets11 said:

    ToffeeCup said:


    Own goal and a wonder goal. And we couldn't really finish for toffee. Saha was as confident (shooting from anywhere) as he was inaccurate.

    Think we've just had a bad run really. Both in terms of fixtures and decisions. But our luck will change, and a striker in jan is very much needed too.

    I'm not one to have a pop at McFadden, but I thought that was pretty harsh on billy. Although maybe not as he was gash against united.

    Either way, looks like he'll be sold to Russia in jan.


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    are you fogetting blackburn missing 2 penalties and us getting a soft decision in the last minute of that game

    and scoring twice after fulham could easily have won that game.


    We could so easily be sitting on 4 point right now, luck is the reason we have 10.


    and a striker was needed back in the summer which is obvious really after we sold 3 strikers.


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    We have defo not had the decisions go for us this season. Red cards and several not given penalties throughout the season.. I agree we needed a striker but who? We had no money and we got Straq.. Biggest problem with Moyes is his unwillingness to play Vellios to be honest, although he was awful when he started... no excuse for playing Macfadden over him though.
  • Daive521
    Posts: 2,329
    When the going gets Tough, the tough get going. Things will get better befor Xmas
  • HOWIE8
    Posts: 7,580
    Daive521 said:

    When the going gets Tough, the tough get going. Things will get better befor Xmas



    Of course we want things to get better and im sure they will, but its papering over the cracks. Nothing will have changed in the way we play, 4-5-1 is fine if its played offensively, but we dont know how to do it, only the defensive side, and when that doesnt work its too late, on come the strikers with 15 mins to go. When we have our good spell, all is great with the world but it never lasts because of the stubborness of the Manager and Chairman.......
  • milky71
    Posts: 8,785
    The chairman doesn't pick the squad and Moyes has the fullsay on transfer activity
  • ToffeeCup
    Posts: 3,043
    milky71 said:

    The chairman doesn't pick the squad and Moyes has the fullsay on transfer activity


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    I only wish is was you picking the team Milky, and signing the players.

    Afterall, its you with the manager of the month/year awards and its not like Moyes watches any of the players in training.
  • HOWIE8
    Posts: 7,580
    milky71 said:

    The chairman doesn't pick the squad and Moyes has the fullsay on transfer activity


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    maybe you misunderstood me or in a roundabout way your agreeing with me?........
    Moyes stuborness, wont change his tactics, dont lose first......
    Kenshite stuborness, believes DM is still the best manager in the world, and will not sell the club at all costs.....

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