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I hate Moyes
  • moneybags
    Posts: 98
    I know he's done a good job for us but I would love us to give someone else a go. I hate how miserable he is I hate how negative he is. I hate how long it takes for him to make a substitution and I hate how he uses the same old players in the same positions. I hate hearing him tell me how professional Phil Neville  after he has another shocker and I hate how he wasted all the lescott money (distin is excluded from that). I hate that he is seen as untouchable. Ten years in the job has sent him mad with power. It's painfully obvious to me we've been going backwards since the 09 cup final. History will not remember him as a great manager but an average one. We will never win a trophy with David Moyes, that is my belief.

    I respect him for his service to the club but I would love it if he moved on.
  • Warrington Dan
    Posts: 8,859
    I belief sacking Moyes would be another step backwards. These steps backwards are due to teams like Spurs and Man City getting money and Everton getting less and less every year. Can't blame Moyes for the lack of funds. 
  • TKD
    Posts: 1,331
    moneybags said:

    I know he's done a good job for us but I would love us to give someone else a go. I hate how miserable he is I hate how negative he is. I hate how long it takes for him to make a substitution and I hate how he uses the same old players in the same positions. I hate hearing him tell me how professional Phil Neville  after he has another shocker and I hate how he wasted all the lescott money (distin is excluded from that). I hate that he is seen as untouchable. Ten years in the job has sent him mad with power. It's painfully obvious to me we've been going backwards since the 09 cup final. History will not remember him as a great manager but an average one. We will never win a trophy with David Moyes, that is my belief.


    I respect him for his service to the club but I would love it if he moved on.

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    ungrateful b@stards!
    he's done it on FA really hasn't he?
    It's like we're the tramps of the premierleague, who have scrapped and scrapped every bit of spare change to produce miracles and a football team, in terms of success, just short of the big spenders. remember all teams above us spend big. spurs, city, chelsea, manu, liverpool.theyr usually the teams that come ahead of us so if it was down to building a squad over a number of years instead of buying the best squad you want, we'd be champions of england over and over again by now under moyes.
    People forget this. If we had Moyes before money was the key to success, he would have been our Kenny Daglish.
    EDIT: WHAT am i talking about lol i meant bill shankley lol
  • Spurrier44
    Posts: 45
    Completely agree... We need a change to spice things up. Everton are becoming another Fulham, Bolton, West Ham... A boring as **** team full of average players.
  • moneybags
    Posts: 98
    Playing no strikers against QPR is nothing to do with money it's ideology. Moyes has done ok at Everton, I'm not ungrateful to him he has been well rewarded and is a very wealthy man now because of us. Ten years in the job is too long with no trophies in the cabinet. Spurs spent lots of money when we finished above them 2 or 3 years in a row. I actually don't care about the money I want us to play without fear and entertain. I go to Goodison and support the team and will continue to do so but on most occaisions it isn't any fun because of the way he sets up the team.
  • Warrington Dan
    Posts: 8,859
    Beckford started upfront against QPR. 
  • moneybags
    Posts: 98
    I know he did but there was a period when we were without a striker and we were already losing. I seem to remember Moyes telling us that we played well in that game.
  • IhateRS
    Posts: 1,091
    There was no time we were without someone in the striker position, what we did was to put some height there by moving Fellaini up and put Cahill there as well.. Reason being we kept long balling it.. Fact is we nearly scored 20 seconds after that substitution.
    Annoyed the hell out of me too though.
    But.. The Lescott money was money he generated himself through buying Lescott in the first place..Also Distin has been our best defender for over a year now so its not completely wasted.
    Billy and Jonny are let downs but Billy has scored many inportant goals for us.
    To sack Moyes is to cut of your nose to get rid of a bad smell.. The source of the smell is the lack of finances not Moyes.
    How many teams that finish above us have spent to get there.. all of them, a new manager will bring us in line with the other teams of our class... So relegation fight every year.
    After the changes he made against Chelsea, how many think Osman, Hibbert, Cahill, Howard and Saha should be in the team? Most... yet these were players that are classed as 'favourites' that should be dropped when they play and things don't go right.
    And we did play well against QPR.
  • moneybags
    Posts: 98
    We were awful against QPR. Billy has not scored many important goals for us he has scored a few and they have all been crackers but he is not a good buy. I don't agree that Moyes is the only manager in the world capable of keeping us out of a relegation fight. I think this is delusional.
  • Daive521
    Posts: 2,329
    Its True Moyes hasn't had as much to Spend as at least Half the Premier Clubs, but he has bought half a dozen Quite expensive Signings. The Chap who managed Scunthorpe (Now Southampton) seems a VERY GOOD Manager. On one hand Money should'nt matter so much, but as in Real Life..........of Coarse it DOES. Its Very Difficult to compete with Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal and even Newcastle who get Gates of 48,000+ So our 7th & 8th Finishes ARE Excellent not to mention our 4th, 5th, & 6th Finishes
  • moneybags
    Posts: 98
    I won't deny that he's done a good job. I've enjoyed significant parts of the Moyes era but I don't enjoy it now and haven't for some time. Our 7th place last season was a dissapointment to me as I thought we had a good chance of going higher but we stuffed it up by losing to **** teams
  • jj1878
    Posts: 187
    moneybags said:

    I know he's done a good job for us but I would love us to give someone else a go. I hate how miserable he is I hate how negative he is. I hate how long it takes for him to make a substitution and I hate how he uses the same old players in the same positions. I hate hearing him tell me how professional Phil Neville  after he has another shocker and I hate how he wasted all the lescott money (distin is excluded from that). I hate that he is seen as untouchable. Ten years in the job has sent him mad with power. It's painfully obvious to me we've been going backwards since the 09 cup final. History will not remember him as a great manager but an average one. We will never win a trophy with David Moyes, that is my belief.


    I respect him for his service to the club but I would love it if he moved on.


    Minus the hate bit (I would replace with Dont Like) absolutly agree with this. I want someone else to be given a go. I am totally sick of watching negative football. Sometimes we get a bit lucky, but most of the time we dont.
  • OldGoldenVision
    Posts: 19,512
    Who would you like to see money n jj? 
  • moneybags
    Posts: 98
    To be honest I'd let pretty much anyone have a crack. History has shown it's almost impossible to relegate Everton. I quite like Martin Jol. Some one young from the lower divisions would be ok. Someone in the Paul Lambert vein. Someone a bit like a young David Moyes with flair. I haven't been looking for candidates because Kenwright will never sack moyes and he is on way too much dosh to resign.
  • jj1878
    Posts: 187
    OldGoldenVision said:

    Who would you like to see money n jj? 


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    As above, for me it might be a bit of a stab in the dark, the point I am making is that its time for change.  I also understand that some are happy with Moyes.  I just want to try something different.  I want to go to games and see an attacking starting line up, even taking a chance on some players, not for half a game, for a run of games, Drenthe, Velios, Barkley etc..lets see if they make a difference
  • scottinfrance139347
    Posts: 2,312
    bring in peter reid
  • TKD
    Posts: 1,331
    scottinfrance139347 said:

    bring in peter reid


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    Fantastic guy with a great sense of humour but come on he clearly can't manage! he's got too much of a temper when he's angry and starts to make rash decisions, we don't want that.
    I think he'd be a good asset for the club though if he helps out in training or they give him a role as a third assistant manager? do they exisit or are there similar positions like that I dont know but I think he could get them all fired up no doubt, just cant manage
  • Ivdlit
    Posts: 2,061
    wait till Moyes get money, the entertainment will rise. Replace Moyes to get to the no. 1 spot? Not a good idea.
  • 11blue
    Posts: 4,685
    He makes some unnecessary mistakes but to say you hate him if a bit harsh don't you think!!
  • OldGoldenVision
    Posts: 19,512
    I am happy with Moyes, but I have a bad feeling that one day I will see Big Sam managing us... 
  • 11blue
    Posts: 4,685
    OldGoldenVision said:

    I am happy with Moyes, but I have a bad feeling that one day I will see Big Sam managing us... 


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    Really?

    Why Sam Allardyce?
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