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he has never been that great.
im amazed people keep on talking about his future potential, he lacks several things in his game and has done since he joined here.
when has the ball always looks for the short pass
lacks pace
cant cross
cant shoot
poor in the air despite his height and often gives away free kicks
all he does is break up play and then pass the ball to the nearest player
to be a decent DM in todays game you need to be able to defend but also drive forward. look at the top 6 teams.
united-dont have/need a convential DM they use carrick or anderson who can also attack when needed
chelsea- ramires essien, both can make runs forward.
arsenal-now use areteta as the sitting midfielder to spray the passes out wide.
RS-have lucas and adam both capable of getting forward.
Spurs-sandro who can get forward and hit one from 30 yards.
City-Yaya toure defends and gets forward to help the team.
in todays game an old fashioned DM isnt needed you need to offer more. hence why I cant see any of the top6 going for him, he doesent offer enough. and to add to that moyes will price him out of a move in jan and probably the summer aswell.
tickets11 said:he has never been that great.
im amazed people keep on talking about his future potential, he lacks several things in his game and has done since he joined here.
when has the ball always looks for the short pass
lacks pace
cant cross
cant shoot
poor in the air despite his height and often gives away free kicks
all he does is break up play and then pass the ball to the nearest player
to be a decent DM in todays game you need to be able to defend but also drive forward. look at the top 6 teams.
united-dont have/need a convential DM they use carrick or anderson who can also attack when needed
chelsea- ramires essien, both can make runs forward.
arsenal-now use areteta as the sitting midfielder to spray the passes out wide.
RS-have lucas and adam both capable of getting forward.
Spurs-sandro who can get forward and hit one from 30 yards.
City-Yaya toure defends and gets forward to help the team.
in todays game an old fashioned DM isnt needed you need to offer more. hence why I cant see any of the top6 going for him, he doesent offer enough. and to add to that moyes will price him out of a move in jan and probably the summer aswell.
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Beano said:Very very unimpressed with him the last few weeks and again today.
He seems totally uninterested in Everton anymore and seems to be just waiting for his move.
We nearly lost that game today coz of him. Gave away possession easily and then just stops playing and it leads to Zamora missing that sitter! No interest in chasing back whatsoever!
Needs a kick up the **** or a dropping and sold in January if possible! He has no intention of signing an extension! Been saying that for weeks!
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IhateRS said:Season 1.. 9 goals, its not his strength but put him up front and he is effective but time after time he will use his real strength and this just to do a simple lay off after the ball has gone to him and he is surrounded by players. He does a turn or two keeping players off with his strength, then he's in space, and he lays it off.. Its fairly basic but he's one of maybe two or 3 players in our squad capable of doing it and it and by far the best, it turns panic into calm.. unfortunately he often lays it off to Jags or Neville which turns calm into a throw in for the opposition.. but that's beside the point.
As a DM he has strength and is quicker than he looks, can header i've seen it many times, stays calm and keeps the ball well.. Up front where he is not as effective he scores goals and thats all you can ask for.
He's not running around like a headless chicken and is often out of position but that aside I personally think he is our most important player behind Baines and Distin.
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IhateRS said:Season 1.. 9 goals, its not his strength but put him up front and he is effective but time after time he will use his real strength and this just to do a simple lay off after the ball has gone to him and he is surrounded by players. He does a turn or two keeping players off with his strength, then he's in space, and he lays it off.. Its fairly basic but he's one of maybe two or 3 players in our squad capable of doing it and it and by far the best, it turns panic into calm.. unfortunately he often lays it off to Jags or Neville which turns calm into a throw in for the opposition.. but that's beside the point.
As a DM he has strength and is quicker than he looks, can header i've seen it many times, stays calm and keeps the ball well.. Up front where he is not as effective he scores goals and thats all you can ask for.
He's not running around like a headless chicken and is often out of position but that aside I personally think he is our most important player behind Baines and Distin.
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