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Posts: 24,216October 2011 Lets say, hypothetically speaking of course, there was a vote on whether to bring back the death penalty or not, for obviously crimes like murder etc, which way would you vote, for or against??
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Posts: 2,329October 2011 For, for sure. I've heard some people say it would'nt be a deterant, but i reckon even Evil Psycho's would think twice IF they knew they'd be 'executed'..............and besides, they would't do it AGAIN!!!!
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Posts: 137October 2011sambo applecart said:
Lets say, hypothetically speaking of course, there was a vote on whether to bring back the death penalty or not, for obviously crimes like murder etc, which way would you vote, for or against??
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Against.
Too many innocent people would die. look at the US for example. In theory its an awesome system and deals swiftly with peados, murderers and rapists. In reality, if one innocent person dies it's all in vain. Furthermore, keeping people on death row for years eats away at tax payers money... -
Posts: 2,519October 2011 Seriously, no. Just make life mean life for crimes such as murder and rape.
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Posts: 1,398October 2011AndyForsyth said:
Seriously, no. Just make life mean life for crimes such as murder and rape.
I tend to agree with this.
And in a prison with only the barest of essentials, none of this 'cosy cell' syndrome we hear so much about.
I'd possibly add a stipulation that every 10 years the guilty party would be asked if they chose the death penalty; if yes, they are executed as humanely as possible, if not, another 10 years in the cell to dwell on what they have done.
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Posts: 2,519October 2011BlueShark said:AndyForsyth said:
Seriously, no. Just make life mean life for crimes such as murder and rape.
I tend to agree with this.
And in a prison with only the barest of essentials, none of this 'cosy cell' syndrome we hear so much about.
I'd possibly add a stipulation that every 10 years the guilty party would be asked if they chose the death penalty; if yes, they are executed as humanely as possible, if not, another 10 years in the cell to dwell on what they have done.
At least this way nobody is executed by mistake!-----------------
So in effect, voluntary death? I think this would be the only way to get around the issue of the death penalty. Would also be interesting to see what the likes of Huntley and Brady would do in this instance. Think in Brady's case, he'd go for it because he's starving himself to death anyway but no idea what Huntley would do. Keeps getting done over anyway doesn't he. -
Posts: 1,398October 2011 Exactly Andy. There would be some who would stick it out to the end of their natural life; and those who are actually innocent and praying that their name will be cleared will at least not be executed by mistake...and the like of Huntley etc can die if they want to, but it is their choice.
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Posts: 24,216October 2011AndyForsyth said:
Seriously, no. Just make life mean life for crimes such as murder and rape.
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IM INCLINED TO AGREE WITH THIS mate tbh, oops didnt mean to have caps on -
Posts: 2,519October 2011 You just have to look at this recent case to know that the death penalty is a completely flawed system which needs to either be scrapped or replaced by the kind of thing you suggest:I'm just glad that we don't have it here.
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Posts: 172October 2011 I`d vote yes. Life imprisonment/extremly long sentences is pretty much torture so I don`t find that at all forgiving in regards to miscarriage of justice or rehabilitation of criminals. Vengance must be out of the picture, leaving it as merely a regulating force. Would probably be sensible to demand stronger evidence for death penalty than the regular beyond reasonable doubt.
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Posts: 24,216October 2011jwollnick said:
I`d vote yes. Life imprisonment/extremly long sentences is pretty much torture so I don`t find that at all forgiving in regards to miscarriage of justice or rehabilitation of criminals. Vengance must be out of the picture, leaving it as merely a regulating force. Would probably be sensible to demand stronger evidence for death penalty than the regular beyond reasonable doubt.
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thats a very valid point that mate.
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Posts: 8,858October 2011sambo applecart said:jwollnick said:
I`d vote yes. Life imprisonment/extremly long sentences is pretty much torture so I don`t find that at all forgiving in regards to miscarriage of justice or rehabilitation of criminals. Vengance must be out of the picture, leaving it as merely a regulating force. Would probably be sensible to demand stronger evidence for death penalty than the regular beyond reasonable doubt.
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thats a very valid point that mate.
F#ck it! Just kill the f#cker anyway! -
Posts: 24,216October 2011Warrington Dan said:sambo applecart said:jwollnick said:
I`d vote yes. Life imprisonment/extremly long sentences is pretty much torture so I don`t find that at all forgiving in regards to miscarriage of justice or rehabilitation of criminals. Vengance must be out of the picture, leaving it as merely a regulating force. Would probably be sensible to demand stronger evidence for death penalty than the regular beyond reasonable doubt.
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thats a very valid point that mate.
F#ck it! Just kill the f#cker anyway!-----------------
or send him to the bugger van.......
on a lighter note dan, on career mode on fifa12, at the end fo the season why wre there hardly any 'decent' free transfers to be had???
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Posts: 8,858October 2011sambo applecart said:Warrington Dan said:sambo applecart said:jwollnick said:
I`d vote yes. Life imprisonment/extremly long sentences is pretty much torture so I don`t find that at all forgiving in regards to miscarriage of justice or rehabilitation of criminals. Vengance must be out of the picture, leaving it as merely a regulating force. Would probably be sensible to demand stronger evidence for death penalty than the regular beyond reasonable doubt.
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thats a very valid point that mate.
F#ck it! Just kill the f#cker anyway!-----------------
or send him to the bugger van.......
on a lighter note dan, on career mode on fifa12, at the end fo the season why wre there hardly any 'decent' free transfers to be had???
Harry Redknapp probably bought them all! The dodgy wheeler dealing, scr0tum faced c*nt! -
Posts: 172October 2011
Warrington Dan said:sambo applecart said:jwollnick said:I`d vote yes. Life imprisonment/extremly long sentences is pretty much torture so I don`t find that at all forgiving in regards to miscarriage of justice or rehabilitation of criminals. Vengance must be out of the picture, leaving it as merely a regulating force. Would probably be sensible to demand stronger evidence for death penalty than the regular beyond reasonable doubt.
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thats a very valid point that mate.
F#ck it! Just kill the f#cker anyway!-----------------
If you limit the the question of guilt to merely guilty or not guilty, you`re left with a pretty good 50% chance of getting it right.
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Posts: 8,858October 2011jwollnick said:
Warrington Dan said:sambo applecart said:jwollnick said:I`d vote yes. Life imprisonment/extremly long sentences is pretty much torture so I don`t find that at all forgiving in regards to miscarriage of justice or rehabilitation of criminals. Vengance must be out of the picture, leaving it as merely a regulating force. Would probably be sensible to demand stronger evidence for death penalty than the regular beyond reasonable doubt.
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thats a very valid point that mate.
F#ck it! Just kill the f#cker anyway!-----------------
If you limit the the question of guilt to merely guilty or not guilty, you`re left with a pretty good 50% chance of getting it right.
Lets face it, the human gene pool could use a little chlorine. -
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Posts: 137October 2011jwollnick said:
Warrington Dan said:sambo applecart said:jwollnick said:I`d vote yes. Life imprisonment/extremly long sentences is pretty much torture so I don`t find that at all forgiving in regards to miscarriage of justice or rehabilitation of criminals. Vengance must be out of the picture, leaving it as merely a regulating force. Would probably be sensible to demand stronger evidence for death penalty than the regular beyond reasonable doubt.
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thats a very valid point that mate.
F#ck it! Just kill the f#cker anyway!-----------------
If you limit the the question of guilt to merely guilty or not guilty, you`re left with a pretty good 50% chance of getting it right.-----------------
Not good odds if it's you brother up for a charge.......and he happens to be black... -
Posts: 1,230October 2011 Give the death sentence to the person who broke into my house and stole my boys laptops ps3 and games and there money boxes that they were saving for christmas. Ps the kids got all there stiff back through the insurance and i filled there money boxes back up.
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