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The Blue Union are having another protest march!
  • lukep08
    Posts: 309
    sambo applecart said:

    lukep08 said:

    sambo applecart said:

    ok, so what your saying is the fans protesting made manu spend a fortune on transfer fees then, and they wouldn't have spent that money regardless of whether they protested or not??



    NO, theve always won league spent money but you dont see them protesting anymore they seem to be happy or atleast happier with the glazers now and i still kean will be sacked shortly if things dont pick up,

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    so basically mate if we spent money there wouldn't be a problem??

    So if we spend 15million say in january, there will be no need to protest anymore?

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    Course there will still be protest, if we spent 15 in jan (big iff) people would say ok 10 for arteta 4 for beckford peinaar yakubu yobo vaughan money only partially spent, they still arnt putting money into there back pocket, there just selling on players and spending a portion of it, thing is sambo, if we wernt in debt and making losses every year i woiuldnt be to concerned about hardly spending, but were making losses without spending any money how does that work? were going on a downwards spiral even you surely must see that, moyes has only got a few years left do you think he will extend because i dont, what happens after he goes? i think we will be in SEROUIS trouble.
  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,216
    lukep08 said:

    sambo applecart said:

    lukep08 said:

    sambo applecart said:

    ok, so what your saying is the fans protesting made manu spend a fortune on transfer fees then, and they wouldn't have spent that money regardless of whether they protested or not??



    NO, theve always won league spent money but you dont see them protesting anymore they seem to be happy or atleast happier with the glazers now and i still kean will be sacked shortly if things dont pick up,

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    so basically mate if we spent money there wouldn't be a problem??

    So if we spend 15million say in january, there will be no need to protest anymore?

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    Course there will still be protest, if we spent 15 in jan (big iff) people would say ok 10 for arteta 4 for beckford peinaar yakubu yobo vaughan money only partially spent, they still arnt putting money into there back pocket, there just selling on players and spending a portion of it, thing is sambo, if we wernt in debt and making losses every year i woiuldnt be to concerned about hardly spending, but were making losses without spending any money how does that work? were going on a downwards spiral even you surely must see that, moyes has only got a few years left do you think he will extend because i dont, what happens after he goes? i think we will be in SEROUIS trouble.

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    i see your points mate, of course i do.

    what i will say though is, for every Moyes, there is another one out there that could do as equal a job.

    For every fellaini, there is someone who can replace him.

    Its the same with every player mate.

    So IF moyes were to leave (and i do hope he doesnt) there would be someone out there who could do a job aswell as him.

    I think what Moyes brings us is long term stability, he will always keep us in the prem(imo) where as maybe  another manager might only have a shelf life of 5 years max.

    The other thing is Luke, not every club owner has money to dip into his pocket to buy new players etc. Our loss comes about because we spend TOO much on wages, and imo, this is something we need to address over the next couple of years, bring wages down a bit, and then we will not be operating at a loss, cos its this that is killing us at this moment in time and making us operate at a loss. 
  • koolhandluke8
    Posts: 3,024
    i really enjoy the disillusioned view that people have with the fact that a) the liverpool fans beleive their "protests" got rid of the owners and b) actually got new owners in !! The best comment i heard regarding this was actually form that hanger on st john on radio city when he stated on air..." all the liverpool fans e-mailed every millionaire in the world and eventuslly got a buyer " FFS and he actually believd what he was saying !!

    AND manu fans protesting and wearing coloured scarves actaully sorted the glaziers out !! really ?
  • lukep08
    Posts: 309
    koolhandluke8 said:

    i really enjoy the disillusioned view that people have with the fact that a) the liverpool fans beleive their "protests" got rid of the owners and b) actually got new owners in !! The best comment i heard regarding this was actually form that hanger on st john on radio city when he stated on air..." all the liverpool fans e-mailed every millionaire in the world and eventuslly got a buyer " FFS and he actually believd what he was saying !!

    AND manu fans protesting and wearing coloured scarves actaully sorted the glaziers out !! really ?



    The protest arnt just about trying to get the board out, there mostly to show the board where not happy, if having protests got people out there would be one every week in the lower gwladers singing about anichebe, get your head out of the sand.
  • koolhandluke8
    Posts: 3,024
    my head is firmly on my shoulders ..high above the sand !!

    which is why I can see the light !!
  • ToffeeCup
    Posts: 3,035
    koolhandluke8 said:

    i really enjoy the disillusioned view that people have with the fact that a) the liverpool fans beleive their "protests" got rid of the owners and b) actually got new owners in !! The best comment i heard regarding this was actually form that hanger on st john on radio city when he stated on air..." all the liverpool fans e-mailed every millionaire in the world and eventuslly got a buyer " FFS and he actually believd what he was saying !!

    AND manu fans protesting and wearing coloured scarves actaully sorted the glaziers out !! really ?


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    This.

    The only reaction from a liverpool owner past or present a liverpool fan has got was an email from hicks's son saying 'blow me f*ck face'

    There were a few bidders sharking around there waiting for the bank to manufacture a position from which it could cash in its debt in. Thats all they did, they didn't find a buyer for the club... they found someone to pay off the debt who looked like a credible buyer for a football team... and the henry sporting franchise group ticked the right boxes.

    As for Manyoo fans... I just loved it when they went down to gates at old trafford chanting 'glazers out' while seemingly blissfully unaware that they were actually barricading the glazers in... just delicious!


    All clubs have stupid and idiotic fans who have a habit of doing embarrassing things in public... and Blue Union are ours.
  • diggernaut
    Posts: 1,214
    koolhandluke8 said:

    my head is firmly on my shoulders ..high above the sand !!

    which is why I can see the light !!




    It's a train lid.
  • koolhandluke8
    Posts: 3,024
    could be a white van !
  • lukep08
    Posts: 309
    ToffeeCup said:

    koolhandluke8 said:

    i really enjoy the disillusioned view that people have with the fact that a) the liverpool fans beleive their "protests" got rid of the owners and b) actually got new owners in !! The best comment i heard regarding this was actually form that hanger on st john on radio city when he stated on air..." all the liverpool fans e-mailed every millionaire in the world and eventuslly got a buyer " FFS and he actually believd what he was saying !!

    AND manu fans protesting and wearing coloured scarves actaully sorted the glaziers out !! really ?


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    This.

    The only reaction from a liverpool owner past or present a liverpool fan has got was an email from hicks's son saying 'blow me f*ck face'

    There were a few bidders sharking around there waiting for the bank to manufacture a position from which it could cash in its debt in. Thats all they did, they didn't find a buyer for the club... they found someone to pay off the debt who looked like a credible buyer for a football team... and the henry sporting franchise group ticked the right boxes.

    As for Manyoo fans... I just loved it when they went down to gates at old trafford chanting 'glazers out' while seemingly blissfully unaware that they were actually barricading the glazers in... just delicious!


    All clubs have stupid and idiotic fans who have a habit of doing embarrassing things in public... and Blue Union are ours.


    But if the kopites come out defending there board saying they loved hicks and gillete do you think henry would have taken over as easy as he did? no chance, kopites wanting them out made it so much easier for liverpool to be taken over
  • ToffeeCup
    Posts: 3,035
    lukep08 said:

    ToffeeCup said:

    koolhandluke8 said:

    i really enjoy the disillusioned view that people have with the fact that a) the liverpool fans beleive their "protests" got rid of the owners and b) actually got new owners in !! The best comment i heard regarding this was actually form that hanger on st john on radio city when he stated on air..." all the liverpool fans e-mailed every millionaire in the world and eventuslly got a buyer " FFS and he actually believd what he was saying !!

    AND manu fans protesting and wearing coloured scarves actaully sorted the glaziers out !! really ?


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    This.

    The only reaction from a liverpool owner past or present a liverpool fan has got was an email from hicks's son saying 'blow me f*ck face'

    There were a few bidders sharking around there waiting for the bank to manufacture a position from which it could cash in its debt in. Thats all they did, they didn't find a buyer for the club... they found someone to pay off the debt who looked like a credible buyer for a football team... and the henry sporting franchise group ticked the right boxes.

    As for Manyoo fans... I just loved it when they went down to gates at old trafford chanting 'glazers out' while seemingly blissfully unaware that they were actually barricading the glazers in... just delicious!


    All clubs have stupid and idiotic fans who have a habit of doing embarrassing things in public... and Blue Union are ours.


    But if the kopites come out defending there board saying they loved hicks and gillete do you think henry would have taken over as easy as he did? no chance, kopites wanting them out made it so much easier for liverpool to be taken over

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    The bank sold the club... if you think for one moment the fans had anything to do with it then you're an idiot.

    The fans protested against hicks and gillette for ages. And when hicks and gillette had control of the club, no matter how bad the finances or the debt they put on the club was, they just ignored the fans and couldn't care less about them.

    When hicks and gillette got into trouble the bank stepped in and essentially repossessed the club and sold it. Fair enough, the fans whined and moaned, then panicked as the court cases went on, then cheered when it was over... but the bank did as it would have done in any case... it was owed money, it went about getting back the money it was owed. No amount of screaming mongoloids had any effect on anything.

    To be fair, had the liverpool fans set themselves on fire I doubt the bank would have batted a blind bit of notice...


    And back we come the the interim board idea.... its just embarrassing really, as are the blue union.
  • Warrington Dan
    Posts: 8,859
    How does a thread about the f#cking blue union marching (again) get of 90 comments? They're nothing more then an embarrassing representation of the club. 
  • diggernaut
    Posts: 1,214
    Warrington Dan said:

    How does a thread about the f#cking blue union marching (again) get of 90 comments? They're nothing more then an embarrassing representation of the club. 


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    Good poin' tha'.
    Especially as 90% + comments are anti.
    Fear? Overkill? or do the lemmings on 'ere jus' wan' someone t' blame like.
    Why the bitterness on 'ere?
  • ToffeeCup
    Posts: 3,035


    No fans like seeing their own club dragged through the dirt.

    But when its your own fans dragging the club through the dirt due to their own stupidity, it irritates people even more.


  • Warrington Dan
    Posts: 8,859
    ToffeeCup said:



    No fans like seeing their own club dragged through the dirt.

    But when its your own fans dragging the club through the dirt due to their own stupidity, it irritates people even more.




    How do retards like the blue union get that amount of publicity? 
  • diggernaut
    Posts: 1,214
    ToffeeCup said:



    No fans like seeing their own club dragged through the dirt.

    But when its your own fans dragging the club through the dirt due to their own stupidity, it irritates people even more.



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    Well tha's your take on things.
    Many others don' see i' tha' way!
    An' I don' think a read of this thread would suppor' the idea tha' all the stupidity is on the other side.
  • AllAroundMyHat
    Posts: 776
    Warrington Dan said:

    ToffeeCup said:



    No fans like seeing their own club dragged through the dirt.

    But when its your own fans dragging the club through the dirt due to their own stupidity, it irritates people even more.




    How do retards like the blue union get that amount of publicity? 

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    jesus, dont you get it? no publicity is bad publicity.  If fans just wanna sit back and do nothing year after year well then, be satisfied. Its called ambition. im not content with satisfaction. 
  • 11blue
    Posts: 4,685
    lukep08 said:

    11blue said:

    lukep08 said:

    Personaly i think a protest will help, what wont help is the weirdos cheering kenwright at goodison when he comes on he screen, seroiusly why? just gonna encourage him to keep hold of the club for longer, he needs to know we dont accept what were putting up with, if you do accept you need to ask yourself why?


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    I am not happy with the lack of money, but how will a protest help? He already knows that we need money and I am sure he would be willing to sell the club. I am not all that surprised that we haven't been sold to be honest, as I think we have the worst stadium in the league. I love Goodison but it is no secret that we are desperate for a new stadium, more than any other team in the league in fact. If an investor wants to invest in a football club, do you think they are going to want to spend £400M on a new stadium? Of course not. They will want to buy a club that doesn't need a new one, and investors know that probably the first thing that will be asked by the fans will be are you going to take us to a new stadium? 

    I don't understand why people think a protest is a good idea. I am still not sure what we are protesting about to be honest. I am not a lover of Kenwright but I am not a hater of him either, and even though I would like nothing more than to see him sell the club, I am realistic about things. I know that a protest will not help us being sold. If anything, all a protest would do is put people off buying a football club. 



    Worst ground in the prem oh behave yourself it is far from the worst ground in the prem, anyone who apprecietes english football will know what a special place goodison is, protests got liverpools owerns out protests got the indian board to take a look at steve kean because the fans loath him, the united protests and the silly scarves made people aware of the discontent with the debt they was in,

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    As much as I love Goodison, it is by far the worst ground in the league and that is a fact. I have been to many away grounds in in truth, they have all been better than Goodison. I see what you are saying, but today in football you need a modern stadium. How many stadiums in the league or even in the country have wooden seats? How many stadiums have 4000 obstructed views? How many stadiums are well over 100 years old? I would love to stay at Goodison, but the truth is that we simply have to move, and as far as I can see, we need a new stadium more than anyone else in the league. 

    Secondly, the situation at Blackburn is completely different. They are frustrated with the performances on the pitch, and they don't want to be bottom of the league, so maybe they have the right to have a protest. The Blackburn fans are frustrated with the players and the manager, and maybe the players and the manager will take note of this and try harder to play better and get better results. Are situation is different because we are frustrated with a lack of investment in the team, but we can't make people want to invest in Everton can we?
  • 11blue
    Posts: 4,685
    AllAroundMyHat said:

    luke . we finally agree on something. a protest creates awareness and shows discontent.

    ok 11blue. so how do we get a new stadium without investment?


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    Tell me how a protest will get us investment?
  • AllAroundMyHat
    Posts: 776
    11blue. How do we move without investment????
  • 11blue
    Posts: 4,685
    AllAroundMyHat said:

    11blue. How do we move without investment????


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    We will struggle to move without investment. We could have gone to Kirkby but that fell through, which is a shame because that would have been affordable. A ground share would be ideal to be honest, even if a ground of our own would be better. We could try and redevelop Goodison in the long term, but I am not denying that we will struggle to move without some investment. 

    Now you tell me how a protest will get us investment?
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