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Moyes has been found out.....
  • kingmoyes
    Posts: 1,841
    You need to sort it out now mate....  Im your biggest fan, but your becoming tired and stale bud!

    1.  Publicly admitting to enquiring about Mcfadden is shocking!!!  This is a typical Moyes move looking to bring back one of his "yes sir" players...   Mcfadden stay away, go to Celtic mate, thats the place for you....

    2.  His tactics have now been found out, the old 10 behind the ball formation does not work!  Villa Boas knew he wont that game before kick off!  We lost 3-1, we might as well gone in for it with 2 up front and attacked Chelsea...  Blame Saha at your peril, I would hate to be in his shoes or any of our strikers up front alone with no feed!  Drenthe, Vellios, what the hell do they have to do to start moyes........................ tell me, cos im rackin my brains here bud!


    The crazy thing about all of this is, if we know what Moyes is going to do before every game, im sure uefa qualified premiership managers have sussed him right out!  Where will our next points come from in not sure???  But as i said before the season started, anything above top 10 will be a dream finish...  Cant see us taking anything than a mear point from the so called top teams this season....

    This is not me being negative its about me waking up and smelling the god damn coffee......


  • kingmoyes
    Posts: 1,841
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  • TKD
    Posts: 1,331
    kingmoyes said:

    You need to sort it out now mate....  Im your biggest fan, but your becoming tired and stale bud!


    1.  Publicly admitting to enquiring about Mcfadden is shocking!!!  This is a typical Moyes move looking to bring back one of his "yes sir" players...   Mcfadden stay away, go to Celtic mate, thats the place for you....

    2.  His tactics have now been found out, the old 10 behind the ball formation does not work!  Villa Boas knew he wont that game before kick off!  We lost 3-1, we might as well gone in for it with 2 up front and attacked Chelsea...  Blame Saha at your peril, I would hate to be in his shoes or any of our strikers up front alone with no feed!  Drenthe, Vellios, what the hell do they have to do to start moyes........................ tell me, cos im rackin my brains here bud!


    The crazy thing about all of this is, if we know what Moyes is going to do before every game, im sure uefa qualified premiership managers have sussed him right out!  Where will our next points come from in not sure???  But as i said before the season started, anything above top 10 will be a dream finish...  Cant see us taking anything than a mear point from the so called top teams this season....

    This is not me being negative its about me waking up and smelling the god damn coffee......



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    Let's not forget our last three games have been against teams with dough-chelsea, liverpool and city. Moyes has twiced said that we can't compete with them because of lack of funds. Now that is a very negative outlook and the players must have their confidence knocked thinking they're not quite good enough for Moyes. Moyes has got that wrong and yes we haven't been playing atticking football against these teams, apart from liverpool first 25 minutes before the rodwell red card.
    I think the key is to just put those three games behind us now and get a win at fulham. It's a massive game and moyes needs to tell the players to just go all out attack- like ya said drenthe, vellios need to be playing and other players with speed need to pick up the pace eg coleman, baines (doing well this season tho), perhaps give barkley a g,ame as a sub, just need to go at them from the off. I think he should play osman as well alongside fellaini, get osman to hit them in from outside the box he was unlucky not to score aginst chelsea he had two good shots.
    I think we can win against fulham, only if moye's stopps pucking about and tells them to go forward instead of having three simple passes in midfield and then afterwards giving the ball away far too cheaply.
    What's happened to the Straq anyone know?
  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,745
    kingmoyes said:

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    I think mate that we are in a bit of a unique situation.

    Some of out older heads are now in the twilight of their careers, and some of the younger lads need another year or 2 on their backs, so from my perspective i think we are in a bit of an 'odd' transitional period.

    Come January, i reckon we will sign Onouha for cover across the back as we need it.

    I think we will try get a loan in somebody like Banega for the rest of the season.

    And i think we will sign a striker also, and i think that will then give us the kick start we need.

    I think without being overly out spoken about it, DM knows our limitations, and as hard as it is to accept, i think we will try get through to january with as little damage as possible, bring in 1 or 2 and then off we will go. 
  • kingmoyes
    Posts: 1,841
    I think.. Sack Moyes, get Neville in as manager!  get Scholes in and ask if we can sign Berbatov on loan!

    Will sort all our problems out!  Easy.............
  • Warrington Dan
    Posts: 8,869
    kingmoyes said:

    I think.. Sack Moyes, get Neville in as manager!  get Scholes in and ask if we can sign Berbatov on loan!


    Will sort all our problems out!  Easy.............

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    how much have you been drinking? 
  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,745
    Warrington Dan said:

    kingmoyes said:

    I think.. Sack Moyes, get Neville in as manager!  get Scholes in and ask if we can sign Berbatov on loan!


    Will sort all our problems out!  Easy.............

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    how much have you been drinking? 

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    Probably needs to be abit more yet if he wants us to go to the bugger van!!
  • Warrington Dan
    Posts: 8,869
    sambo applecart said:

    Warrington Dan said:

    kingmoyes said:

    I think.. Sack Moyes, get Neville in as manager!  get Scholes in and ask if we can sign Berbatov on loan!


    Will sort all our problems out!  Easy.............

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    how much have you been drinking? 

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    Probably needs to be abit more yet if he wants us to go to the bugger van!!

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    Hahahahaaa out comes the rohypnol!
  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,745
    Warrington Dan said:

    sambo applecart said:

    Warrington Dan said:

    kingmoyes said:

    I think.. Sack Moyes, get Neville in as manager!  get Scholes in and ask if we can sign Berbatov on loan!


    Will sort all our problems out!  Easy.............

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    how much have you been drinking? 

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    Probably needs to be abit more yet if he wants us to go to the bugger van!!

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    Hahahahaaa out comes the rohypnol!

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    loooooooooooooooooool
  • kingmoyes
    Posts: 1,841
    Im gona bugger you both in!!!
    good and propa lids
  • Warrington Dan
    Posts: 8,869
    sambo applecart said:

    Warrington Dan said:

    sambo applecart said:

    Warrington Dan said:

    kingmoyes said:

    I think.. Sack Moyes, get Neville in as manager!  get Scholes in and ask if we can sign Berbatov on loan!


    Will sort all our problems out!  Easy.............

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    how much have you been drinking? 

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    Probably needs to be abit more yet if he wants us to go to the bugger van!!

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    Hahahahaaa out comes the rohypnol!

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    loooooooooooooooooool


    I heard Ashley Cole works at this 'bugger van'
  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,745
    Warrington Dan said:

    sambo applecart said:

    Warrington Dan said:

    sambo applecart said:

    Warrington Dan said:

    kingmoyes said:

    I think.. Sack Moyes, get Neville in as manager!  get Scholes in and ask if we can sign Berbatov on loan!


    Will sort all our problems out!  Easy.............

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    how much have you been drinking? 

    -----------------





    Probably needs to be abit more yet if he wants us to go to the bugger van!!

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    Hahahahaaa out comes the rohypnol!

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    loooooooooooooooooool


    I heard Ashley Cole works at this 'bugger van'




    With Jermaine Jenas.......
  • cjohno
    Posts: 5,465
    im sick of hearing from evertonians everytime we lose vs richer teams is they have money etc, its still no excuse for totally abject lame performances and totally negative tactics and formations, i can take losing but what i cant take is totally passionless gutless performances week in week out, at least we use to get stuck in and have a go now its just total surrender before these games, may as well not turn up half the time, at least give vellios barkly and drenthe a chance, cant be any worse, were getting fk all from games as it is, may as well try and gel a team a little, instead of playing the same old shoite week in week out, rest jags hes struggling give johnny a game, take cahill out of team hes not the player he was get 2 strikers playing(saha, vellios) play drenthe ahead of osman hes NOT a left midfielder FFS , and please get coleman and hibbert out the team we have got 2 of the poorest wide players in the prem in our side, give barkley and neville the right side spots.
  • xreyuk123
    Posts: 793
    When will people understand, it's not about the losing.

    I DONT CARE IF WE **** LOSE, as long as we play a formation that shows some intent, and give a performance with purpose. If we lose 3-1 because we played 4-4-2 and **** went for the game against bigger teams, I really wouldn't care, at least we'd have shown we want to win the game.
  • lukep08
    Posts: 309
    Worst mistake moyes did was say right before the city game its like taking a knife into a gun fight, what sort of manager says that i felt ashamed when i read that, what sort of confidence will that gives his players, im sick of his constant playing out of form players then moans when they make mistakes that game DROP THEM THEN YOU CLOWN, moans about having no money SELL PLAYERS YOU LEAVE ON THE BENCH AND BUY SOME THEN, i hate kenwright with a passion but i dont even think he is silly enough to sell players and not let moyes re-buy people, he goes on about always giving youth a chance, then why the fck is barkley not even making the bench whilst cahill is starting everygame yet havent anything but be a liability for over a year, why is vellios sitting on the becnh despite being our top goalscorer with most probably the fewest minutes in our squad, why is drenthe sitting on the bench when he has probably got one of the strongest abilities in the squad and has excited 99% of us blues when been on yet coleman who has been absolutly shocking still playing, sick to death of the same **** everyweek, "everton doing well" "everton make a mistake 1-0 down now" SORT IT OUT.
  • andysg85216333
    Posts: 2
    cjohno said:

    im sick of hearing from evertonians everytime we lose vs richer teams is they have money etc, its still no excuse for totally abject lame performances and totally negative tactics and formations, i can take losing but what i cant take is totally passionless gutless performances week in week out, at least we use to get stuck in and have a go now its just total surrender before these games, may as well not turn up half the time, at least give vellios barkly and drenthe a chance, cant be any worse, were getting fk all from games as it is, may as well try and gel a team a little, instead of playing the same old shoite week in week out, rest jags hes struggling give johnny a game, take cahill out of team hes not the player he was get 2 strikers playing(saha, vellios) play drenthe ahead of osman hes NOT a left midfielder FFS , and please get coleman and hibbert out the team we have got 2 of the poorest wide players in the prem in our side, give barkley and neville the right side spots.


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    Totally agree with this.It is our lack of passion that has disturbed me most lately.We have been to Chelsea before with similarly rated players and we've come away with hard earned draws,always getting in their faces and stopping them playing.This time?We were like a bunch of wet rags,beaten before the match kicked off.Let's get that fight back lads,when teams knew they were in for a battle when they played us.
  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,745
    cjohno said:

    im sick of hearing from evertonians everytime we lose vs richer teams is they have money etc, its still no excuse for totally abject lame performances and totally negative tactics and formations, i can take losing but what i cant take is totally passionless gutless performances week in week out, at least we use to get stuck in and have a go now its just total surrender before these games, may as well not turn up half the time, at least give vellios barkly and drenthe a chance, cant be any worse, were getting fk all from games as it is, may as well try and gel a team a little, instead of playing the same old shoite week in week out, rest jags hes struggling give johnny a game, take cahill out of team hes not the player he was get 2 strikers playing(saha, vellios) play drenthe ahead of osman hes NOT a left midfielder FFS , and please get coleman and hibbert out the team we have got 2 of the poorest wide players in the prem in our side, give barkley and neville the right side spots.





    i'm the same when the postman comes......only ever seems to talk to me when he is bringing bad news
  • Slepe
    Posts: 17
    I feel David is as frustrated as anyone else, that said he is the only one who can put it right. I agree there seems to be a reluctance to give the younger players a try, Drenthe, Vellios and Guyere have surely earned a run in the team. Is it David's loyalty to his senior players that prevents this happening? Discuss.
  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,745
    Slepe said:

    I feel David is as frustrated as anyone else, that said he is the only one who can put it right. I agree there seems to be a reluctance to give the younger players a try, Drenthe, Vellios and Guyere have surely earned a run in the team. Is it David's loyalty to his senior players that prevents this happening? Discuss.





    i have faith in Moyes, but this is what it seems to be for me and put into the equasion that we cant really play 4 or 5 players under 21 every game they just dont have the experience imo. i said earlier in this thread, we are in a sort of unique situation where as we have too many good young players, but not enough experienced heads to allow them time to bed in as it were. I'm probs talking cack but thats how i see it. In jan i think we need a couple of good players around 26-28 years old with plenty of experience imo.
  • Slepe
    Posts: 17
    sambo applecart said:

    Slepe said:

    I feel David is as frustrated as anyone else, that said he is the only one who can put it right. I agree there seems to be a reluctance to give the younger players a try, Drenthe, Vellios and Guyere have surely earned a run in the team. Is it David's loyalty to his senior players that prevents this happening? Discuss.





    i have faith in Moyes, but this is what it seems to be for me and put into the equasion that we cant really play 4 or 5 players under 21 every game they just dont have the experience imo. i said earlier in this thread, we are in a sort of unique situation where as we have too many good young players, but not enough experienced heads to allow them time to bed in as it were. I'm probs talking cack but thats how i see it. In jan i think we need a couple of good players around 26-28 years old with plenty of experience imo.

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    Sir Alex does!!
  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,745
    Slepe said:

    sambo applecart said:

    Slepe said:

    I feel David is as frustrated as anyone else, that said he is the only one who can put it right. I agree there seems to be a reluctance to give the younger players a try, Drenthe, Vellios and Guyere have surely earned a run in the team. Is it David's loyalty to his senior players that prevents this happening? Discuss.





    i have faith in Moyes, but this is what it seems to be for me and put into the equasion that we cant really play 4 or 5 players under 21 every game they just dont have the experience imo. i said earlier in this thread, we are in a sort of unique situation where as we have too many good young players, but not enough experienced heads to allow them time to bed in as it were. I'm probs talking cack but thats how i see it. In jan i think we need a couple of good players around 26-28 years old with plenty of experience imo.

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    Sir Alex does!!

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    there inexperience will tell at some point imo........
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