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4-4-2
  • Warrington Dan
    Posts: 8,858
    A lot of you are calling for us to play this formation but I don't it will do us any favours. 4-4-2 is hardly used by any team in the prem this year for whatever reason. 

    Man City - 4-2-3-1
    Man Utd - 4-4-1-1 (Rooney playing behind the striker)
    Chels - 4-3-3
    R.S. - 4-2-3-1
    Spurs - 4-4-1-1 (VDV behind the striker)
    Arsenal - 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3

    Don't get me wrong there are some teams lower down in the league that use it and occasionally Man Utd use it against smaller team but in my opinion teams/ managers have moved on from it. 
  • Warrington Dan
    Posts: 8,858
    Other types of 4-4-2 such as the diamond/ 4-1-2-1-2 formation gives us very limited width and lets face it the wings seem to be our best way forward. 
  • Sydjenko
    Posts: 135
    4-1-3-2
    -------------Vellios------Saha-----------------
    Drenthe---------Barkley----------Coleman
    --------------------Fellaini----------------------
    Baines----Distin-----Jagielka------Neville
    -------------------Howard----------------------
  • scottinfrance139347
    Posts: 2,312
    Sydjenko said:

    4-1-3-2
    -------------Vellios------Saha-----------------
    Drenthe---------Barkley----------Coleman
    --------------------Fellaini----------------------
    Baines----Distin-----Jagielka------Neville
    -------------------Howard----------------------


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    wat if vellios or saha get injured
  • bluedestiny
    Posts: 229
    scottinfrance139347 said:

    Sydjenko said:

    4-1-3-2
    -------------Vellios------Saha-----------------
    Drenthe---------Barkley----------Coleman
    --------------------Fellaini----------------------
    Baines----Distin-----Jagielka------Neville
    -------------------Howard----------------------


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    wat if vellios or saha get injured


    We also have Stracqua man and Gueye.
  • lukep08
    Posts: 309
    Something needs to change and people need to be dropped, like cahill coleman and maybe osman, saha cant be blamed to much, he has had zero support what so ever nothing to feed off.
  • bluedestiny
    Posts: 229
    4-4-1-1 with two forwards (one big target man and one faster player, either a complete striker or a poacher playing just behind him) would probably be better than 4-4-2. I could see Vellios or big Denis as our target man with Magaye acting as a poacher, running in to finish chances off. Although, Idon't expect Moyes to use this tactic anytime soon...sigh :(


    If Joao Sila returns to us next season, he would fit into this set-up nicely as a complete striker playing behind big Denis or Vellios, or even a target man, if we didn't sign Stracq permanently

    .-------------------------------------Vellios (Stracq)----------------------------------------

    --------------------------------------Gueye-----------------------------------------

    Drenthe-------Barkley (Osman)-------Fellaini (Rodwell)-----Billy (Coleman)

    Baines-------------Distin (Jags)--------Heitinga--------------Neville (Coleman)

    ---------------------------------------Howard-------------------------------------------------

  • tickets11
    Posts: 1,002

    the problem isnt the formation its the strikers.


    saha, anichebe, vellios and straq


    there the kind of strikers you would expect at a championship level club.

  • bluedestiny
    Posts: 229
    tickets11 said:

    the problem isnt the formation its the strikers.


    saha, anichebe, vellios and straq


    there the kind of strikers you would expect at a championship level club.


    I reckon if Vellios, Stracq and Gueye were allowed to start or given some more game time, come January, those three would be good enough to get us goals on a consistant basis.

    You can't say you are not impressed with Vellios so far, can you? I agree with you about Vic though, and Saha is clearly past his best. It's Moyes's fault if keeps selecting he wrong players to start each match.

    As long as our financial situation stays the same, Vellios, Gueye, Joao Silva and Stracq (if we keep him) are our future, but at least they all look promising.
  • 11blue
    Posts: 4,669
    tickets11 said:

    the problem isnt the formation its the strikers.


    saha, anichebe, vellios and straq


    there the kind of strikers you would expect at a championship level club.


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    How can you say this when Stracqualursi has barely played???
  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,200
    11blue said:

    tickets11 said:

    the problem isnt the formation its the strikers.


    saha, anichebe, vellios and straq


    there the kind of strikers you would expect at a championship level club.


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    How can you say this when Stracqualursi has barely played???

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    why do you think? LOL
  • Warrington Dan
    Posts: 8,858
    bluedestiny said:

    scottinfrance139347 said:

    Sydjenko said:




    We also have Stracqua man and Gueye.

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    YES!!!! I've got that name to take off  \:D/
  • 11blue
    Posts: 4,669
    sambo applecart said:

    11blue said:

    tickets11 said:

    the problem isnt the formation its the strikers.


    saha, anichebe, vellios and straq


    there the kind of strikers you would expect at a championship level club.


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    How can you say this when Stracqualursi has barely played???

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    why do you think? LOL

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    I don't even think Tickets knows himself to be honest!
  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,200
    11blue said:

    sambo applecart said:

    11blue said:

    tickets11 said:

    the problem isnt the formation its the strikers.


    saha, anichebe, vellios and straq


    there the kind of strikers you would expect at a championship level club.


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    How can you say this when Stracqualursi has barely played???

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    why do you think? LOL

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    I don't even think Tickets knows himself to be honest!

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    Your probably right amigo......!
  • Warrington Dan
    Posts: 8,858
    Tickets doesn't really focus on what he types he's too busy bring cheer to the world.
  • jwollnick
    Posts: 172
    11blue said:

    tickets11 said:

    the problem isnt the formation its the strikers.


    saha, anichebe, vellios and straq


    there the kind of strikers you would expect at a championship level club.


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    How can you say this when Stracqualursi has barely played???

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    Strikers are left by themselves aren`t they? Moyes defensive caution is strangeling our offensive play. Imo we lack a more direct link between our midfield and strikers. Cahill`s build up contributions are poor, and our lone striker is overburdened. Moyes seem to have a fear of change and an unflexibility worthy of comparison to Einstein`s definition of madness.

    I would bench: Rodwell, Osman, Coleman, Cahill & Saha

    In: Drenthe, Vellios, Straq, Billy & Gueye

    Probably sub Gueye or Billy for Barkley last 30mins in every game to boost his experience.

                 Howard
    Hibbert Jags Distin Baines
                Fellaini
     Gueye    Billy    Drenthe
            Vellios Straq
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