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What are you doing Moyes????
  • mattyod
    Posts: 305
    I think Moyes is a excellent manager and I do not want rid of him however I feel he is not utilising is squad enough.

    Everyone says our problem is strikers but I disagree. It's team selection and a defensive attitude. Yesterday was a prime example:

    Midfield Fellaini and Rodwell central mid? Both great as a denfensive mid but will not create anything or keep the ball. We should only play one and that should be Fellaini who is excellent when left to do that role. Osman on the left? no pace and keeps coming inside leaving Baines completely exposed. (baines had a bad game but he needs help). With this mid it leaves Cahill lost on the pitch because his strength is making runs in to the box not linking the play with the striker. Coleman started well and showed a bit of last years form but due to the lack of creativeity in the middle had little opportunity.

    Saha is quality but yeeterday had to come looking for the ball all the time and when he got it he was too deep.

    Subs Drenthe on for Coleman? Coleman was looking our best player going forward. We were 2 down why not take off Rodwell. Neville on for Cahill? Neville is a good servant but don't understand that one. Vellios on for Saha? Why take Saha off when we are losing.


    Tactics of the whole game was strange. If we are playing on the break then get pace on from the start and drop Osman and Cahill. If we want to get a result then let the midfield compete and have the ability to hold the ball. Half time he should have bought on Barkley, Drenthe and Vellios for Rodwell Cahill and Osman.

    Lets hope we give Barkley the start he deserves before we sell him in January. Also lets add balance with Drenthe and Coleman on the wings then baines can get back into the games with the attacking support that pinear offered. Even go as far as to play Vellios and Saha up front and give the defence some work to do.


  • cjohno
    Posts: 5,112
    barkley wasnt even on the bench yesterday was he?
  • Russell82
    Posts: 723
    Nope, don't know where he was.

    I agree with everything you've put Mattyod.

    Moyes is becoming predictable and stale.
  • mattyod
    Posts: 305
    Your right, not sure why not? But his lack of opportunity in the team is very strange after given a start in the first game and being man of the match.
  • lukep08
    Posts: 309
    Its been the same every single game this season, bar villa (actually played well that game) nice pretty tocuhes but create nothing or get to the final 3rd and have nothing, go the other end made a mistake and where a goal down, not looking good for us atm.
  • Overseas
    Posts: 42
    I have a feeling Moyes has no choice to do what your saying. When Drenthe and Vellios come on, they spark up the offence. Also Barkley has to start getting game time. We need his energy and creativity to get forward and create some chances along with Drenthe and Vellios. 4-4-2 is the way to go.
  • 11blue
    Posts: 4,669
    I don't want us to play 4 4 2 away to Chelsea, but I want to see us put up a fight in these games, but all we do is sit back for 90 minutes. And how many managers bring on a right back (Phil Neville) for an attacking midfielder (Tim Cahill) when you are losing 3-0 with 20 minutes to go! I would have brought on Vellios and Drenthe at half time, because when we went 2 goals down we had nothing to lose. 
  • bluedestiny
    Posts: 229
    11blue said:

    I don't want us to play 4 4 2 away to Chelsea, but I want to see us put up a fight in these games, but all we do is sit back for 90 minutes. And how many managers bring on a right back (Phil Neville) for an attacking midfielder (Tim Cahill) when you are losing 3-0 with 20 minutes to go! I would have brought on Vellios and Drenthe at half time, because when we went 2 goals down we had nothing to lose. 



    Agree with most of what you said. Swapping from 4-5-1 to 4-4-1-1 after half-time would have made sense. Should have taken Rodwell off and moved Ossy to CM, with Drenthe comming on as LW. Should have also tken Cahill and Saha off, and replaced them with Vellios and Stracq (or Gueye).
  • 11blue
    Posts: 4,669
    bluedestiny said:

    11blue said:

    I don't want us to play 4 4 2 away to Chelsea, but I want to see us put up a fight in these games, but all we do is sit back for 90 minutes. And how many managers bring on a right back (Phil Neville) for an attacking midfielder (Tim Cahill) when you are losing 3-0 with 20 minutes to go! I would have brought on Vellios and Drenthe at half time, because when we went 2 goals down we had nothing to lose. 



    Agree with most of what you said. Swapping from 4-5-1 to 4-4-1-1 after half-time would have made sense. Should have taken Rodwell off and moved Ossy to CM, with Drenthe comming on as LW. Should have also tken Cahill and Saha off, and replaced them with Vellios and Stracq (or Gueye).

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    I like Neville, but what is the point in bringing him on when you need a couple of goals! It was like Moyes just gave up and he wanted to protect a 3-0 defeat! Stracqualursi must be wondering what he has to do to get a game. 
  • bluedestiny
    Posts: 229
    11blue said:

    bluedestiny said:

    11blue said:

    I don't want us to play 4 4 2 away to Chelsea, but I want to see us put up a fight in these games, but all we do is sit back for 90 minutes. And how many managers bring on a right back (Phil Neville) for an attacking midfielder (Tim Cahill) when you are losing 3-0 with 20 minutes to go! I would have brought on Vellios and Drenthe at half time, because when we went 2 goals down we had nothing to lose. 



    Agree with most of what you said. Swapping from 4-5-1 to 4-4-1-1 after half-time would have made sense. Should have taken Rodwell off and moved Ossy to CM, with Drenthe comming on as LW. Should have also tken Cahill and Saha off, and replaced them with Vellios and Stracq (or Gueye).

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    I like Neville, but what is the point in bringing him on when you need a couple of goals! It was like Moyes just gave up and he wanted to protect a 3-0 defeat! Stracqualursi must be wondering what he has to do to get a game. 


    Indeed, Moyes is just way to stubborn and negative! Stracq, Gueye and Barkley need to get some game time next week vs Fullham and Vellios should definately start.. Wake up Moyes.
  • Daive521
    Posts: 2,329
    IF we don't go to Fulham on Sunday looking to get 3pts with Straqulursi, Vellios, Saha, Barkley etc then Chelsea, Man Utd, Newcastle, Wolves, Bolton, Stoke & Arsenal could see us in Deep ****. Will David Moyes make his 10th Anniversary in March 2012.........
  • mattyod
    Posts: 305
    Daive521 said:

    IF we don't go to Fulham on Sunday looking to get 3pts with Straqulursi, Vellios, Saha, Barkley etc then Chelsea, Man Utd, Newcastle, Wolves, Bolton, Stoke & Arsenal could see us in Deep ****. Will David Moyes make his 10th Anniversary in March 2012.........



    As I said I don't want rid of him but if you look at the **** given to BK for not investing seems a bit harsh when we leave our most creative players on the bench. Looking around at the other clubs and feel our best 11 is competitive but until we see them play we will never know.
  • Blitzer2010
    Posts: 97
    erm gueye couldnt come on because he was sitting in casual gear with barkley. straccy has picked up an injury (not sure on seriousness) we should have kept saha on and put vellios up there with him. vellios-cahill,osman-drenthe,nev-hibbo (who looked lost im wondering why we are playing him and worse of all hes gettin player of the month.....)
  • kingmoyes
    Posts: 1,841
    Sack him!  Get Benitez in while he is still available 
  • Warrington Dan
    Posts: 8,858
    kingmoyes said:

    Sack him!  Get Benitez in while he is still available 


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    I say give the job to Gary Neville as he knows so f*cking much!
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