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where it all went wrong
  • Daive521
    Posts: 2,329
    I reckon they are having too many beans in their diet.
  • AussieSheila
    Posts: 1,748
    tonyd said:

    I've always said I'm a hypocrite I know my failings as a person and accept them. You well you're just some bitter old bad with a face like a grape left out in the sun if you don't like what I post you and your sons can all go and_fuck yourselves.

    Now get in the kitchen_bitch


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    Hit a nerve there I see.

    Back to what you know - cheap, unfunny insults. Ageist too.

    I love being in the kitchen btw.

    You just worry about your son & how he thinks about you.

  • tonyd
    Posts: 2,825

    Hit a nerve there I see.

    Back to what you know - cheap, unfunny insults. Ageist too.

    I love being in the kitchen btw.

    You just worry about your son & how he thinks about you.


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    He'd think you'd be a sun dried grape faced arl bag too who should be in the kitchen washing them dishes plus you forgot to add sexist to your ism list.

    Go and burn your bra while still wearing it
  • AussieSheila
    Posts: 1,748
    tonyd said:

    He'd think you'd be a sun dried grape faced arl bag too who should be in the kitchen washing them dishes plus you forgot to add sexist to your ism list.

    Go and burn your bra while still wearing it


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    Think that boy needs a Mother........

    But appreciate no-one in their right mind would take that job on.....
  • tonyd
    Posts: 2,825

    Think that boy needs a Mother........

    But appreciate no-one in their right mind would take that job on.....


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    At least my child exists unlike yours and your fairytales of watching everton I have no idea why you're on here tbh you don't add anything to the forum except vinegar_tits
  • langleyefc
    Posts: 36

    Think that boy needs a Mother........

    But appreciate no-one in their right mind would take that job on.....


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    why are you even entertaining this idiot?
    just stop talking to him and talk about everton
  • langleyefc
    Posts: 36

    Think that boy needs a Mother........

    But appreciate no-one in their right mind would take that job on.....


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    why are you even entertaining this idiot?
    just stop talking to him and talk about everton
  • tonyd
    Posts: 2,825

    why are you even entertaining this idiot?
    just stop talking to him and talk about everton


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    _fuck off you gimp you can't even spell players names correctly so your opinion is invalid
  • langleyefc
    Posts: 36
    tonyd said:

    _fuck off you gimp you can't even spell players names correctly so your opinion is invalid



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  • Probus
    Posts: 414

    moyes has had a stock of players this year, Barkley, Oviedo, Hitzelsberger, Duffy, Velios that he has not played.. basically at all.
    this has had a massive impact on the 2nd half of the season.
    in the early parts of the season, games against Villa away, Swansea away games where we dominated he never drafted in the fringe players to keep the team fresh and all vying for their places.
    what if Velios had grabbed 3 in 5 what if Barkley comes in and scores 2 in 4 he then gives himself options which he seems to strictly beleive he does not have.
    if they didnt so what, they get minutes under their belts and it keeps the team fresh.
    its always square pegs in round holes.
    he has had so many options to chose from but has kept the teams strategy the same all season and like all teams you get worked out.
    Fellaini is not a forward and teams are just hacking at him, yet the 20 goal (in greece) Kevin Mirrales is played out wide and never given a chance to show his potential up top.
    the Naismith on the right saga was never ever going to work.. what was it in training that was seen that could have possibly led moyes to beleive he had what it takes to play that role?
    then there was the big one: Phil "legs went 2011" Neville.
    how have people like Barkley (who moyes claims will play for England one day) and ex German international Hitzelsberger not got a game over him?
    how on earth is he starting a premiership match anymore?
    i have spoken to many people that go the games and everyone is of the same oppinion he plays right back if he HAS to play i.e if there is no other option, yet he is played in the middle of the park with Osman on so many occasions.
    Osman has had a relatively good season so the decision to bring him in full time there can be justified to an extent, but if moyes can honestly say at 31 and with his physical condition i.e no pace/strength that he can last 90 mins week in week out inc. cups etc then he is completely wrong.
    then there was the Heitinger 4-5 week massacre.
    he plays 2 games and is as bad as can be, as a fringe player this is your chance.
    a manager should recognise that the out of form player needs to be pulled out.
    Duffy was sat there waiting for his chance and the thing is it came but he wasnt allowed to take it....
    the Baines Piennar disconnection.
    they look so so tired now its untrue.
    but more importantly is was being doubled up on, it was being nulified week in week out after say November and it was never changed, no piennar to the right, oviedo drafted in, piennar in the middle giving Osman a chance on the left to mix it up, nothing to suggest he had noted that the left hand side wasnt working anymore.
    Jelavic not scoring.
    yet another striker off the boil as moyes uses his just run tactics.
    putting fellaini up top to just flick it on is not jelavic's game and he just runs and runs like an idiot all afternoon.
    there are so many more blaitant individual mistakes by moyes this year while he still uses the squad size excuse which i just dont buy into.
    the squad was far larger than he has everyone beleive he just chose to ignore it.


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    Good post! Unfortunatelly I agree with what you say so I can not cpntribut to a good dsicsussion.
  • langleyefc
    Posts: 36
    Probus said:

    Good post! Unfortunatelly I agree with what you say so I can not cpntribut to a good dsicsussion.


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    what do you think about jelavic's inability to score?
  • Daive521
    Posts: 2,329
    Yeah, Funny how just about every Club now has 90% of their players from Timbuktu to Venezela?!!!!
  • tonyd
    Posts: 2,825

    tonyd said:

    _fuck off you gimp you can't even spell players names correctly so your opinion is invalid



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    It's Heitinga btw dumbarse
  • Probus
    Posts: 414

    what do you think about jelavic's inability to score?


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    If I was the manager I leave him out of the starting 11 and let Velios and others get a chance. I would substitutet in the 65th/70th minute and run against tired legs. I'd probably also would give him some time with the reserves (but not a ful 90 minutes). But start him week in and week out (as we did with Saha) without getting anything back, no.
  • AussieSheila
    Posts: 1,748

    why are you even entertaining this idiot?
    just stop talking to him and talk about everton


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    I have a really hard time reconciling idiots like him with my beloved club.

    But I get your point.
  • NSNO
    Posts: 3,097
    yep there's alot to be said for Moyes not using the squad this season........saying that, Moyes was claimimg 4 weeks ago that some of his key players were tiring (in February!).......that was mind-boggling from Moyes.....and still he didn't rest players against Reading......
    the decision to play Neville ahead of Gibson was easily Moyes' biggest gaff of the season....i still can't undersatnd his thinking there.....
    some of the players on our bench are simply not very good.....but Barkley (yes he has much to learn), Oviedo, Duffy & Vellios should have had more of a sniff this season......outside of the top 8, the standard isn't fantastic, so give these guys a chance.....Baines has been playing with an injury for over a month now, its madness to not give him a few weeks rest when we have Oviedo & Distin who can fill in.....
  • langleyefc
    Posts: 36
    Probus said:

    If I was the manager I leave him out of the starting 11 and let Velios and others get a chance. I would substitutet in the 65th/70th minute and run against tired legs. I'd probably also would give him some time with the reserves (but not a ful 90 minutes). But start him week in and week out (as we did with Saha) without getting anything back, no.


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    do you think though that pushing felli up top has hindered his playing style?
    i watched us on motd against fulham at home last season on sat.
    my mate has it recorded becasue his nephew was caught on the camera.
    the highlights were great in terms of his first touch and movement.
    seems to have lost all that fluidity in his play and now is very eratic
  • langleyefc
    Posts: 36
    Probus said:

    If I was the manager I leave him out of the starting 11 and let Velios and others get a chance. I would substitutet in the 65th/70th minute and run against tired legs. I'd probably also would give him some time with the reserves (but not a ful 90 minutes). But start him week in and week out (as we did with Saha) without getting anything back, no.


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    do you think though that pushing felli up top has hindered his playing style?
    i watched us on motd against fulham at home last season on sat.
    my mate has it recorded becasue his nephew was caught on the camera.
    the highlights were great in terms of his first touch and movement.
    seems to have lost all that fluidity in his play and now is very eratic
  • langleyefc
    Posts: 36
    Probus said:

    If I was the manager I leave him out of the starting 11 and let Velios and others get a chance. I would substitutet in the 65th/70th minute and run against tired legs. I'd probably also would give him some time with the reserves (but not a ful 90 minutes). But start him week in and week out (as we did with Saha) without getting anything back, no.


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    do you think though that pushing felli up top has hindered his playing style?
    i watched us on motd against fulham at home last season on sat.
    my mate has it recorded becasue his nephew was caught on the camera.
    the highlights were great in terms of his first touch and movement.
    seems to have lost all that fluidity in his play and now is very eratic
  • langleyefc
    Posts: 36
    Probus said:

    If I was the manager I leave him out of the starting 11 and let Velios and others get a chance. I would substitutet in the 65th/70th minute and run against tired legs. I'd probably also would give him some time with the reserves (but not a ful 90 minutes). But start him week in and week out (as we did with Saha) without getting anything back, no.


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    do you think though that pushing felli up top has hindered his playing style?
    i watched us on motd against fulham at home last season on sat.
    my mate has it recorded becasue his nephew was caught on the camera.
    the highlights were great in terms of his first touch and movement.
    seems to have lost all that fluidity in his play and now is very eratic

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