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make your mind up moyes
  • cjohno
    Posts: 5,174
    if you know you are going in the summer why not **** off now and give somebody 10 games to have a look at the situation and settle in before the summer, if you got any thought for ther club dont leave us in the shittttttttttt and not give a new manager the chance to build a side for next season, show the club a little respect now as you have totally undermined things lately, i dont want somebody to stay if nothing better comes along, time for a change ASAP
  • Tiresias
    Posts: 105
    cjohno said:

    if you know you are going in the summer why not **** off now and give somebody 10 games to have a look at the situation and settle in before the summer, if you got any thought for ther club dont leave us in the shittttttttttt and not give a new manager the chance to build a side for next season, show the club a little respect now as you have totally undermined things lately, i dont want somebody to stay if nothing better comes along, time for a change ASAP


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    Uncalled for comment. I've been a critic of Moyes on and off over the years, and none more so than on Saturday, but to be as disrespectful as you've just been is grossly unfair. The man may make some tactiacl errors, and sometimes be too cautious/defensive/conservative but he has blue blood in his veins and no-one wants a trophy more for the fans than he does. I agree, it's time for change (and I've felt it for a couple of years), but I've never questioned his love for and committment to the club and he deserves more respect from the likes of you.
  • cjohno
    Posts: 5,174
    and the club deserves a hell of a lot more respect from a manager on massive wages, to sit and wait and see if anything better comes along in the summer is disrespectful, and im pretty sure if it was a player showing the same attitude it wouldnt be tolerated , hes getting the same respect off me as hes showing our club at the moment.
  • Yobowannabe
    Posts: 2,035
    cjohno said:

    and the club deserves a hell of a lot more respect from a manager on massive wages, to sit and wait and see if anything better comes along in the summer is disrespectful, and im pretty sure if it was a player showing the same attitude it wouldnt be tolerated , hes getting the same respect off me as hes showing our club at the moment.


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    I sort of agree but the way you are putting it is wrong. I dont think he is showing us disrespect I think simply he has ran out of ideas and he does not know what to do anymore.
  • Tiresias
    Posts: 105
    Yobowannabe said:

    I sort of agree but the way you are putting it is wrong. I dont think he is showing us disrespect I think simply he has ran out of ideas and he does not know what to do anymore.


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    Well put.
  • king-moyes
    Posts: 3,243
    Yobowannabe said:

    I sort of agree but the way you are putting it is wrong. I dont think he is showing us disrespect I think simply he has ran out of ideas and he does not know what to do anymore.


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    I think he is....  How many managers do you know that are free agents at the end of the summer and give NO indication what they are doing.  He has ruined our season with this doubt, what gives him the right to do this to the fans?


  • Tiresias
    Posts: 105
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    Maybe for once he's decided not to go along and accept the patter Kenwright and the Board give him about money and he's putting it up to them. He's been very restrained and decent about it for a long time. At this point the "OUT" camp seem to have their minds made up that he's ruining the club but while I want him to move on I don't think he deserves some of the nasty comments......
  • king-moyes
    Posts: 3,243
    Tiresias said:

    Maybe for once he's decided not to go along and accept the patter Kenwright and the Board give him about money and he's putting it up to them. He's been very restrained and decent about it for a long time. At this point the "OUT" camp seem to have their minds made up that he's ruining the club but while I want him to move on I don't think he deserves some of the nasty comments......


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    But where is Moyes honesty towards the Fans????  Anyone can see that his doubt is effecting everything...  
  • Tiresias
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    Obviously his "doubt" is not ideal. But as professionals these players are being paid a huge amount of money. Irrespective of whether or not Moyes comes or goes the 11 selected to start, and the ones who appear as subs have an obligation to give 100% for the team, club and fans. I believe Moyes should go. I believe he's not getting the most from the players - but I also believe he's been too loyal to Kenwright and the Board and should have been tougher with them over the past few years. No matter what's said though - I don't believe Moyes is intentionally doing anything to pi*s the fans off. He wants to see ambition from the Boardroom.
  • CharlieCroker
    Posts: 957
    Tiresias said:

    Maybe for once he's decided not to go along and accept the patter Kenwright and the Board give him about money and he's putting it up to them. He's been very restrained and decent about it for a long time. At this point the "OUT" camp seem to have their minds made up that he's ruining the club but while I want him to move on I don't think he deserves some of the nasty comments......


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    This is bang on the money, if you will excuse the pun. Last year, Moyes said he would discuss a new contract after the January transfer window. After that failure, he said he will wait until the summer. He said that he was waiting to see how we did in the league and cup, but that was just flannel. It is pretty obvious that his condition for staying is the Club's owners providing more money for transfers and wages. He is giving them every chance to promise an improvement in the funding of his squad but, from the evidence we can all see, they are dithering.

    If Moyes' contract negotiations are having a negative effect on the team, it is the fault of BK and his mates, not Moyes- his interests seem to lie with improving Everton. He is the one person who can exert pressure on the shareholders, so we should be supporting him like never before. The Moyes Out brigade should be shouting, "Give him the funding he needs, to take his career and Everton's success to the next level," or something more catchy and shoutable, along those lines.

  • azzo
    Posts: 513
    I don't want him out but this is ruining morale. I would much rather him say I am leaving if I don't receive "x" amount of money to invest in the team. He is a high paid manager so he is not doing this for personal reasons.
  • BlueMineck
    Posts: 265
    Moyes has had money. The board have backed him as far as they can when they can. We don't have owners who can provide mega-money and Moyes knows this, therefore how is about money?
  • CharlieCroker
    Posts: 957
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    That is what he is saying, but in a diplomatic way.
  • CharlieCroker
    Posts: 957
    BlueMineck said:

    Moyes has had money. The board have backed him as far as they can when they can. We don't have owners who can provide mega-money and Moyes knows this, therefore how is about money?


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    I suspect that the board could have done more. It would not take much, to give EFC a fair crack at CL qualification. January's nothing attempt to sign a player or two sums this up well. The world is full of money, and EFC looks like a good place to invest it, by the standard of PL clubs.
  • cjohno
    Posts: 5,174
    well its took him 11 years to decide the board are not ambitious enough or dont have the money he wants to take us to the next level , bit long to wait isnt it? and at the end of the day hes still probably got the best side on paper hes had since he arrived, got us in a good position and i will give him credit for that only to totally blow it since january , yes not buying in transfer window never helped but his whole attitude since then and his constant reminders to everyone that were over achieving has become laughable , some of his comments have been totally negative and whatever excuses you want to make for him, saturday was our biggest game in a long time and he blew it big time. any manager who thinks neville is still up to the prem as a centre midfielder will never get a job at a top club simple as.
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