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Moyes out?? YES if you want relegation and away matches at peterborough
  • Jellybean1
    Posts: 57
    You must forgive and forget. Very quickly ! :)
  • markldoo
    Posts: 1
    Personally I think that if Moyes  has decided to end his relationship with Everton FC then he should go asap and as a must the board should make an appointment immediately and Robbie Martinez would be my choice.. So we could benefit (hopefully) from New Manager syndrome and have A GOOD end to the season and most important (to me) for this season finish above the RS  
  • Jellybean1
    Posts: 57
    Moyes was hedging his bets. Well all bets off now. At least we would have some new prospect to look forward to next season with a new manager. Not the same old same old. The focus now should be on the Board. Do your job and find a new manager.
  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,216
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    I AGREE!



    MOYES OUT! 
  • bazzerk25
    Posts: 8

    Our manager is one of the highest paid in the league, our wage bill is sky high, yet clubs with less money have actually won something. What if Laudrup goes flying past us with Swansea after they have already won a cup this year, in his first season I might add. I don't fancy Martinez but he completely out maneuvered Moyes on tactics yesterday, he doesn't get paid what Moyes does and he doesn't have anywhere near the funding that our team has (Yes including wages).

    I don't buy this it's all the player fault stuff, after all he buys the players, picks the team, employs the tactics they use in a game and chooses who comes on as a sub. In any other business, including other football team I might add, if the workers are not functioning properly it is their responsibility to do something about it otherwise their own position is brought into question. I don't get where this Moyes can do no wrong mentality has come from, yesterday and for a while now he has been making some strange decisions and making excuses by blaming everybody else. We need some fresh ideas and I for one would love Laudrup, but that is extremely doubtful. Oh on another point if Moyes was so good wouldn't one of the big clubs have come in for him by now, after all apparently he has been proving himself for the past 11-years now. 

  • CharlieCroker
    Posts: 957
    sambo applecart said:

    this he has had no money to spend is a myth. stop talking cack.


    bored to death with Moyes' 'i've had no money to spend woes'


    bore off with that excuse.


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    Sorry to piddle on your chips, Sambo, but I am going to do just that, waving my member from side to side, like the cool dude that I am. The picture shows that the only top ten club to spend less on transfers, since 2003, is Arsenal. Moyes out, Wenger in? Wigan have spent less, but look where they are in the league. To get us into the position we are in, Moyes has done an outstanding job. http://transferleague.co.uk/

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  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,216
    sorry Charlie, but he has still spent money, those figures dont show the true story.

    Arsenal have spent 252 million. ive no interest in net spends pal, we have still spent 131 million ENGLISH POUNDS, give or take the pennies. 

    However you bring your money in, whether it be through selling players etc, we have still spent any cash that has come our way.

    23 million for lescott, went on players.

    25 million for Rooney went on players.

    Net spend proves nothing pal, all that table shows me is that we have had 131 MILLION pounds to spend, 


    HE SHOULD HAVE SPENT IT BETTER! 
  • escla
    Posts: 2,453
    COULDN'T GIVE A FLYING **** ABOUT ALL THAT ! Moyes had a squad , including 7 international players that should have been capable of beating Wigan, end of !
  • bazzerk25
    Posts: 8

    That just means we have had something worth money to sell, he has still had money to spend whether it be a sell to buy policy or not. Also our ridiculously tiny squad, our submitted squad was 19-players right?, is one of the highest paid in the league, along with our high paid manager.  

     

    For me it's the decisions he makes that get on my nerves, I would love to know how yesterdays decision was tactical against lowly placed Wigan. Also what the heck is wrong with Oviedo? I have seen him play a few times as a sub and he looked pretty good, as for Naismith I don't doubt his passion it's just how on earth does he get picked?

    For me Moyes struggles to make important decisions, decisions before the game and decisions during the game that can be game winning. This is the reason he will never succeed at a big club, it's what's expected of those managers and Moyes just doesn't have that mentality, that mentality that rubs off on the players.

  • EvertonfcNSNO
    Posts: 1,321
    why can't we look at moyes tactics alone without resorting to bringing somewhat superfluous tables into the mix ... he has persisted in his folly of playing felli behind jelavic ... when was the last time felli scored or set someone up from a free flowing move or something that wasn't a set piece ... then on top of all that he takes the guy off to make a point in a game where its 1 loss and youre done ... and this is the more important point ... when was the last time jela received a ball to feet in the middle of the park in the midst of our progression up the field? ... jela isnt allowed to participate in the build up in games any more because of fellis positioning
  • EvertonfcNSNO
    Posts: 1,321
    and to make a further point name me one team in the premier league let alone the top 10 teams that phil neville could play center mid for ... they must have a special special relationship because as i've said before ill say again PHIL NEVILLE IS NOT A LEADER ... a leader must lead by example at least some of the time and now phil has gotten his only assist on the year and it was to another team ... that is poor for a cm by MLS standards (and they are really low ... i know im american and have to sometimes watch that crap)
  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,216
    EvertonfcNSNO said:

    why can't we look at moyes tactics alone without resorting to bringing somewhat superfluous tables into the mix ... he has persisted in his folly of playing felli behind jelavic ... when was the last time felli scored or set someone up from a free flowing move or something that wasn't a set piece ... then on top of all that he takes the guy off to make a point in a game where its 1 loss and youre done ... and this is the more important point ... when was the last time jela received a ball to feet in the middle of the park in the midst of our progression up the field? ... jela isnt allowed to participate in the build up in games any more because of fellis positioning


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    he wont have done! playing him there is stifling our attacking options. moyes is too proud and too arrogant to change it and admit otherwise!
  • CharlieCroker
    Posts: 957
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    Whoa! If you are going to consider purchases but not sales, we would still have Rooney, Lescott and Arteta in the squad (and Beattie, Bilyaletdinov and err... van der Meyde). Imagine what we would be like then- dead bloody good is my estimate. Even considering gross spending alone, Moyes' record still looks quite good- only clubs which have significantly outspent Everton are above us in the league. Some of the big spenders are below us.

    We may still finish above Arsenal and Liverpool this season. Keep yer pecker up.
  • WantingToEnd-It
    Posts: 841
    CharlieCroker said:

    Whoa! If you are going to consider purchases but not sales, we would still have Rooney, Lescott and Arteta in the squad (and Beattie, Bilyaletdinov and err... van der Meyde). Imagine what we would be like then- dead bloody good is my estimate. Even considering gross spending alone, Moyes' record still looks quite good- only clubs which have significantly outspent Everton are above us in the league. Some of the big spenders are below us.

    We may still finish above Arsenal and Liverpool this season. Keep yer pecker up.


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    couldnt give a flying f_uck were we finish now, the season is done... might as well finish 10th, i just want this season to end and for moyes to f_uck off sharpish like
  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,216
    couldnt give a flying f_uck were we finish now, the season is done... might as well finish 10th, i just want this season to end and for moyes to f_uck off sharpish like

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    i wnat it  toend-with-wantingto
  • WantingToEnd-It
    Posts: 841
    sambo applecart said:

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    i was wantin end it yesterday haha
  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,216
    i was wantin end it yesterday haha

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    if the traffic had been bad on the m62 mate i will have killed a badger 
  • Tiresias
    Posts: 105
    HOWIE8 said:

    People who are convinced that because we wish Moyes gone that we would be relegation candidates are the ones who are delusional. Are you saying that Moyes is the only Manager in the whole world of football who can manage Everton Football Club ?!!!! Ridiculous, im sure there are Managers out there, top managers who are desperate to take over the stability that Moyes has brought to the club, and have ideas in abundance to a way to move us on football wise.
    Jeez at the end of the day he's been at the club 11yrs, done what he has but thats it he's no more ideas as to what to do next. He needs a break, he needs to go out there visit clubs see whats happening football wise, in other words its time for him to refresh himself and learn whats been going on football wise for the last 5 to 7 years. It will do him good, and it will help our club to have someone who is part of todays football, it may work it may not, but standing still and watching what we are watching is not Everton Football Club, we were known as inovators the first to do everything in football, NIL SATIS NISI OPTIMUM, wake up Evertonians, Moyes is no longer the Messiah, he's now just a MESS........


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    Howie - very well made point. I agree with you, he's not the most progressive manager out there but we did get some glimpses early in the season of football we haven't seen for many years from Everton. I just wish people were a bit more respectful in how they phrase their wish to see Moyes gone. The man deserves more respect.
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