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Man and a woman have a baby....
  • ToffeeCup
    Posts: 3,160

    Its a troubled relationship. He drinks too much, knockers her about a bit. She suffers terribly for three years and as the domestic violence increases, she escapes the family home to a woman's refuge.

    The child is taken into care.

    The father leaves the country to work abroad tax free in an attempt to sort himself out and get back on his feet, he is unreachable by social services and never attempts to make contact himself.

    The mother is deemed to be in an unfit state due to the effects the abuse she has suffered has had on her.

    The child is put into foster care but any attempt to find a permanent home for the child is suspended to give the mother time enough to see if recovery is possible for her to regain custody of her child.

    After a period of therapy and a violence free life the mother asked social services to be re-united with her child. She now lives in a bigger house with a good sized garden and her financial situation is greatly improved. She has since entered into a lesbian relationship.

    Social services perform the necessary checks as they would with any couple in the process of re-homing a child taken into care. They meet with the stipulated criteria and the child is re-homed with them.



    Point I'm making is purely from the childs perspective. Torturous upbringing leads to period of being taken into care before being re-homed into a loving family environment. A gay couple. One of whom happens to be the childs natural mother.

    Are you really going to suggest that this should not be allowed?

    Or that males should be discriminated against and that only lesbian couples should be allowed to adopt?

    Or should there be a natural parent onus (which surely strikes at the very core of the adoption process in any case) on such homosexual situations?



    You may not like it, it may not be ideal. But adoption never is, and its fair to say that minds greater than those who inhabit this place have long since agreed that Idi and myself are in the right.


  • Warrington Dan
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    I was hoping for a twist tbh. I thought the lesbian woman was going to be the dad after a sex_change. Your story needs more explosions as well.
  • escla
    Posts: 2,557
    ToffeeCup said:


    Its a troubled relationship. He drinks too much, knockers her about a bit. She suffers terribly for three years and as the domestic violence increases, she escapes the family home to a woman's refuge.

    The child is taken into care.

    The father leaves the country to work abroad tax free in an attempt to sort himself out and get back on his feet, he is unreachable by social services and never attempts to make contact himself.

    The mother is deemed to be in an unfit state due to the effects the abuse she has suffered has had on her.

    The child is put into foster care but any attempt to find a permanent home for the child is suspended to give the mother time enough to see if recovery is possible for her to regain custody of her child.

    After a period of therapy and a violence free life the mother asked social services to be re-united with her child. She now lives in a bigger house with a good sized garden and her financial situation is greatly improved. She has since entered into a lesbian relationship.

    Social services perform the necessary checks as they would with any couple in the process of re-homing a child taken into care. They meet with the stipulated criteria and the child is re-homed with them.



    Point I'm making is purely from the childs perspective. Torturous upbringing leads to period of being taken into care before being re-homed into a loving family environment. A gay couple. One of whom happens to be the childs natural mother.

    Are you really going to suggest that this should not be allowed?

    Or that males should be discriminated against and that only lesbian couples should be allowed to adopt. Or should there be a natural parent onus on such homosexual situations? Which surely strikes at the very core of the adoption process in any case.

    You may not like it, it may not be ideal. But adoption never is, and its fair to say that minds greater than those who inhabit this place have long since agreed that Idi and myself are in the right.



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    Yes, your scenario works but believe me Elton John did not go looking/was not willing to adopt a child from an abusive relationship, he wanted a feckin designer baby !
  • ToffeeCup
    Posts: 3,160

    I was hoping for a twist tbh. I thought the lesbian woman was going to be the dad after a sex_change. Your story needs more explosions as well.


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    hahaha.... you see, I knew people would be dissappointed with the ending.

    Thats the trouble with lesbians, they are just so_fecking mundane. As soon as they get involved all the intrigue and excitment goes out of the window. The dull furry cup drinking bastids!


  • Warrington Dan
    Posts: 8,869
    ToffeeCup said:

    hahaha.... you see, I knew people would be dissappointed with the ending.

    Thats the trouble with lesbians, they are just so_fecking mundane. As soon as they get involved all the intrigue and excitment goes out of the window. The dull furry cup drinking bastids!



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    Should of used pictures of the lesbians ...just to make the story easier to follow like.
  • ToffeeCup
    Posts: 3,160

    at home listening to music, in a responsible manner:


    http://cdn.head-fi.org/0/05/05146424_headphone-fetish-girl-on-girl.jpeg




    You are right....thats much better
  • Warrington Dan
    Posts: 8,869
    I'm on a train so this should be fun to open in public.
  • IdiAminDaDa
    Posts: 7,959
    ToffeeCup said:


    Its a troubled relationship. He drinks too much, knockers her about a bit. She suffers terribly for three years and as the domestic violence increases, she escapes the family home to a woman's refuge.

    The child is taken into care.

    The father leaves the country to work abroad tax free in an attempt to sort himself out and get back on his feet, he is unreachable by social services and never attempts to make contact himself.

    The mother is deemed to be in an unfit state due to the effects the abuse she has suffered has had on her.

    The child is put into foster care but any attempt to find a permanent home for the child is suspended to give the mother time enough to see if recovery is possible for her to regain custody of her child.

    After a period of therapy and a violence free life the mother asked social services to be re-united with her child. She now lives in a bigger house with a good sized garden and her financial situation is greatly improved. She has since entered into a lesbian relationship.

    Social services perform the necessary checks as they would with any couple in the process of re-homing a child taken into care. They meet with the stipulated criteria and the child is re-homed with them.



    Point I'm making is purely from the childs perspective. Torturous upbringing leads to period of being taken into care before being re-homed into a loving family environment. A gay couple. One of whom happens to be the childs natural mother.

    Are you really going to suggest that this should not be allowed?

    Or that males should be discriminated against and that only lesbian couples should be allowed to adopt. Or should there be a natural parent onus on such homosexual situations? Which surely strikes at the very core of the adoption process in any case.

    You may not like it, it may not be ideal. But adoption never is, and its fair to say that minds greater than those who inhabit this place have long since agreed that Idi and myself are in the right.



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    I know a couple (very good friends) who have experienced something very similar like...
  • escla
    Posts: 2,557

    I know a couple (very good friends) who have experienced something very similar like...


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    Wasn't Elton John and his bum chum tho was it !
  • ToffeeCup
    Posts: 3,160

    Elton John is a massive Margaret Thatcher fan Escla.... I'm surprised at you, birds of a feather and all that.
  • IdiAminDaDa
    Posts: 7,959
    escla said:



    Wasn't Elton John and his bum chum tho was it !


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    I' wasn't mate, no...
  • escla
    Posts: 2,557
    ToffeeCup said:


    Elton John is a massive Margaret Thatcher fan Escla.... I'm surprised at you, birds of a feather and all that.


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    Most people admire Thatcher for one thing or another, I don't agree with all of them on everything.
  • blue32years
    Posts: 16,909
    Most ??


  • ToffeeCup
    Posts: 3,160
    ToffeeCup said:



    Are you really going to suggest that this should not be allowed?

    Or that males should be discriminated against and that only lesbian couples should be allowed to adopt?

    Or should there be a natural parent onus (which surely strikes at the very core of the adoption process in any case) on such homosexual situations?




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    Remarkably few people answering the questions above.... thus far only Escla who offers the statement, in favour of homosexual adoption, of:

    "Yes, your scenario works"
  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,745
    Jesus christ, not only is that kid going to be emotionally damaged after receiving AND witnessing abuse.....at the end of the story its going to turn out gay.

    What's wrong with you people?
  • IdiAminDaDa
    Posts: 7,959
    ToffeeCup said:

    Remarkably few people answering the questions above.... thus far only Escla who offers the statement, in favour of homosexual adoption, of:

    "Yes, your scenario works"


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    Welcome to my world, like...
  • IdiAminDaDa
    Posts: 7,959

    Jesus christ, not only is that kid going to be emotionally damaged after receiving AND witnessing abuse.....at the end of the story its going to turn out gay.


    What's wrong with you people?

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    Factually incorrect, on the latter assertion, like...
  • ToffeeCup
    Posts: 3,160

    Sambo is having you on there Idi....how can a little boy turn into a lesbian.
  • IdiAminDaDa
    Posts: 7,959
    ToffeeCup said:


    Sambo is having you on there Idi....how can a little boy turn into a lesbian.


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    :-))
  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,745

    Factually incorrect, on the latter assertion, like...


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    still makes me laugh when i read it though :)
  • IdiAminDaDa
    Posts: 7,959

    still makes me laugh when i read it though :)


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    ;-)

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