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The definative list of Bill Kenwright's achievements during his 12 years tenure.
  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,142
    tickets11 said:

    sambo applecart said:

    tickets11 said:

    sambo applecart said:

    How many new owners are just going to pay off 50million quids worth of debt out of their OWN pockets!??!?! UNLESS, they are mega rich like Chelsea or CIty's owners??

    The RS, will be in the SH**E again if they dont start getting in the champions league cos their owners have taken the debt on not paid it off like you keep claiming.




    there also brining in money through sponsorships  they are also looking to expand the brand in america and asia.  bringing in le bron james to advertise the club. increasing ticket prices ETC  small things like this that means they are continually growing.


    they also now own 2 of the top sports teams in the world.  and drastically improved the red sox fortunes when they brought them a few years back.





    They need to though dont they, cos they are 350million quid in debt! Liverpool always have and always will be a global brand, its not rocket science that lid, and if BK said right we are putting ticket prices up there would be another protest against him.......where as the RS seem more than happy to keeping forking out to pay off the clubs debt! WHY should we as fans have to delve deeper into our pockets to go watch our team b'cos the owners of the club (granted over the course of a few years with the rs) have kept on running up massive debts?? The word MUG springs to mind imo, but if they are happypaying to ge their club out of debt b'cos of poor management for years then they are welcome to do it!


    there not in 350m debt you idiot.




    They dont have any debt according to you ya noggin, that figure was as of february 2010, AND there is no way in the world that has been paid off in the last 20 months let me assure you of that 'oh great one'.
  • tickets11
    Posts: 1,002
    TC dont worry Ill be back later to repost
    HOWIE8 said:

    TC, absoloutly majestic, ive asked for information to have a knowledgeable opinion, well its all there. If Tickets comes up with something to detract what you've just explained i'd be amazed. As for this interim board, is the fella in a one bedroomed flat in South Africa on it? OOps that was one of the stupid things that nearly happened, but thanks for your clear and totally full explanation TC.



    lol thats funny, someone comes up with a suggestion and you slate it, yet when kenright makes mistake amter mistake you stay quiet.  just like TC
  • Beano
    Posts: 3,249
    sambo applecart said:

    i dont think he is the man for the job, he seems to already be going into melt down for me ,



    Off topic - It's funny coz I said the exact same thing to myself this morning listening to the radio and Daglish's interview after their game last night. The interviewer (rather patronisingly) tried to get Daglish to compliment Brighton's efforts and Daglish freaked out. Oh how I laughed!
  • Beano
    Posts: 3,249
    Beano said:

    sambo applecart said:

    i dont think he is the man for the job, he seems to already be going into melt down for me ,



    Off topic - It's funny coz I said the exact same thing to myself this morning listening to the radio and Daglish's interview after their game last night. The interviewer (rather patronisingly) tried to get Daglish to compliment Brighton's efforts and Daglish freaked out. Oh how I laughed!


  • HOWIE8
    Posts: 7,477
    tickets11 said:

    TC dont worry Ill be back later to repost

    HOWIE8 said:

    TC, absoloutly majestic, ive asked for information to have a knowledgeable opinion, well its all there. If Tickets comes up with something to detract what you've just explained i'd be amazed. As for this interim board, is the fella in a one bedroomed flat in South Africa on it? OOps that was one of the stupid things that nearly happened, but thanks for your clear and totally full explanation TC.



    lol thats funny, someone comes up with a suggestion and you slate it, yet when kenright makes mistake amter mistake you stay quiet.  just like TC


    I didnt slate your original post, i said i was open for you to explain the credentials of an interim board over the current board. As you havent given me any indication that you know who are on this interim board then how can i feel any confidence; that they are any more likely to sell the club for the betterment of Everton Football Club???
  • HOWIE8
    Posts: 7,477
    tickets11 said:

    TC dont worry Ill be back later to repost

    HOWIE8 said:

    TC, absoloutly majestic, ive asked for information to have a knowledgeable opinion, well its all there. If Tickets comes up with something to detract what you've just explained i'd be amazed. As for this interim board, is the fella in a one bedroomed flat in South Africa on it? OOps that was one of the stupid things that nearly happened, but thanks for your clear and totally full explanation TC.



    lol thats funny, someone comes up with a suggestion and you slate it, yet when kenright makes mistake amter mistake you stay quiet.  just like TC


    I didnt slate your original post, i said i was open for you to explain the credentials of an interim board over the current board. As you havent given me any indication that you know who are on this interim board then how can i feel any confidence; that they are any more likely to sell the club for the betterment of Everton Football Club???
  • HOWIE8
    Posts: 7,477
    tickets11 said:

    TC dont worry Ill be back later to repost

    HOWIE8 said:

    TC, absoloutly majestic, ive asked for information to have a knowledgeable opinion, well its all there. If Tickets comes up with something to detract what you've just explained i'd be amazed. As for this interim board, is the fella in a one bedroomed flat in South Africa on it? OOps that was one of the stupid things that nearly happened, but thanks for your clear and totally full explanation TC.



    lol thats funny, someone comes up with a suggestion and you slate it, yet when kenright makes mistake amter mistake you stay quiet.  just like TC


    I didnt slate your original post, i said i was open for you to explain the credentials of an interim board over the current board. As you havent given me any indication that you know who are on this interim board then how can i feel any confidence; that they are any more likely to sell the club for the betterment of Everton Football Club???
  • HOWIE8
    Posts: 7,477
    Milky!!! explain this one mate...........
  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,142
    hahahahaha, your just getting your point over i think Howie by repeating yourself! LOL.

    You could say it 40 times though and tickets still wouldnt get it.......
  • ToffeeCup
    Posts: 2,955
    tickets11 said:

    TC dont worry Ill be back later to repost

    HOWIE8 said:

    TC, absoloutly majestic, ive asked for information to have a knowledgeable opinion, well its all there. If Tickets comes up with something to detract what you've just explained i'd be amazed. As for this interim board, is the fella in a one bedroomed flat in South Africa on it? OOps that was one of the stupid things that nearly happened, but thanks for your clear and totally full explanation TC.



    lol thats funny, someone comes up with a suggestion and you slate it, yet when kenright makes mistake amter mistake you stay quiet.  just like TC



    Don't bother yourself tickets, I've little inclination to read your childish drivel on this subject any further.

    When some half witted egit on the interweb comes up with a bunch of half baked nonsense you really shouldn't be surprised when people slate it.

    When multi-millionaires take decisions that have unfortunate consequences as time moves on there is little you can do about it.... unless you are a multi millionaire and can do something about it.

    If not, no one cares what fantasy world you live in or what you would do if you have the chance...

    People like Kenwright take important decisions every day... some of them get written about, some don't. But rarely does anyone looking in from the outside ever know the truth behind of any of them.



  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,142
    ToffeeCup said:

    tickets11 said:

    TC dont worry Ill be back later to repost

    HOWIE8 said:

    TC, absoloutly majestic, ive asked for information to have a knowledgeable opinion, well its all there. If Tickets comes up with something to detract what you've just explained i'd be amazed. As for this interim board, is the fella in a one bedroomed flat in South Africa on it? OOps that was one of the stupid things that nearly happened, but thanks for your clear and totally full explanation TC.



    lol thats funny, someone comes up with a suggestion and you slate it, yet when kenright makes mistake amter mistake you stay quiet.  just like TC



    Don't bother yourself tickets, I've little inclination to read your childish drivel on this subject any further.

    When some half witted egit on the interweb comes up with a bunch of half baked nonsense you really shouldn't be surprised when people slate it.

    When multi-millionaires take decisions that have unfortunate consequences as time moves on there is little you can do about it.... unless you are a multi millionaire and can do something about it.

    If not, no one cares what fantasy world you live in or what you would do if you have the chance...

    People like Kenwright take important decisions every day... some of them get written about, some don't. But rarely does anyone looking in from the outside ever know the truth behind of any of them.





    Er, tickets does TC cos he knows everything.....;) LOL
  • HOWIE8
    Posts: 7,477
    sambo applecart said:

    hahahahaha, your just getting your point over i think Howie by repeating yourself! LOL.

    You could say it 40 times though and tickets still wouldnt get it.......



    or as you would say......
    POST,POST,POST :-))
  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,142
    HOWIE8 said:

    sambo applecart said:

    hahahahaha, your just getting your point over i think Howie by repeating yourself! LOL.

    You could say it 40 times though and tickets still wouldnt get it.......



    or as you would say......
    POST,POST,POST :-))




    hahahahaha :D
  • IhateRS
    Posts: 1,091
    Since Kenwright arrived as chairman

    * Massive team improvement

    2 decades here:


                        Home               Away                
    Season     P  W  D  L  GF  GA    W  D  L  GF  GA  GD  Pts   Pos
    1991-92   42  8  8  5  28  19    5  6 10  24  32       53  12th
    1992-93   42  7  6  8  26  27    8  2 11  27  28   -2  53  13th
    1993-94   42  8  4  9  26  30    4  4 13  16  33  -21  44  17th
    1994-95   42  8  9  4  31  23    3  8 10  13  28   -7  50  15th
    1995-96   38 10  5  4  35  19    7  5  7  29  25  +20  61   6th
    1996-97   38  7  4  8  24  22    3  8  8  20  35  -13  42  15th
    1997-98   38  7  5  7  25  27    2  8  9  16  29  -15  40  17th
    1998-99   38  6  8  5  22  12    5  2 12  20  35   -7  43  14th
    1999-2k   38  7  9  3  36  19    5  5  9  23  28  +12  50  13th
    KENWRIGHT BECOMES CHAIRMAN:
    2000-01   38  6  8  5  29  27    5  1 13  16  32  -14  42  16th
    2001-02   38  8  4  7  26  23    3  6 10  19  34  -12  43  15th
    2002-03   38 11  5  3  28  19    6  3 10  20  30   -1  59   7th
    2003-04   38  8  5  6  27  20    1  7 11  18  37  -12  39  17th
    2004-05   38 12  2  5  24  15    6  5  8  21  31   -1  61   4th
    2005-06   38  8  4  7  22  22    6  4  9  12  27  -15  50  11th
    2006-07   38 11  4  4  33  17    4  9  6  19  19  +16  58   6th
    2007-08   38 11  4  4  34  17    8  4  7  21  16  +22  65   5th
    2008-09   38  8  6  5  31  20    9  6  4  24  17  +18  63   5th
    2009-10   38 11  6  2  35  21    5  7  7  25  28  +11  61   8th
    2010-11   38  9  7  3  31  23    4  8  7  20  22   +6  54   7th
    *Mainly due to him hiring Moyes admittedly, but it was this board that hired Moyes so the above is down to them.
    *Once hired, Kenwright has backed Moyes in every way he can, not only letting him spend what he has sold for the last decade but also in breaking the wage limit to keep the players Moyes wanted to the point we now need to sell players because Moyes kept his favourites thanks to Bill and achieved the above results because of it.
    *Kenwright got the respect of fans, other chairmen, managers and media with his way of working
    *He stabilised a club that was spiralling out of control
    *He has sold the players he needed to but kept the ones Moyes wanted to in order to stabilise us again this summer.
    *Our turnover have quadroupled since he took charge
    *Him and the board have basically changed us from a nothing team to one to be feared even if that was purely down to bringing in Moyes and giving him what they could in terms of wages.
    I would take that over a manager with a little bit of money like Sunderland and Stoke who would employ a differnet manager and finish below the above positions time after time.

    He does need to step aside and he has made mistakes but I don't get the hatred for the man and I would not expect much improvement from anyone who isn't a billionaire, the amount of available funding a 'business man' could squeeze out of this club without investing hundreds of millions is not even worth mentioning.

  • ToffeeCup
    Posts: 2,955
    HOWIE8 said:

    TC, absoloutly majestic, ive asked for information to have a knowledgeable opinion, well its all there. If Tickets comes up with something to detract what you've just explained i'd be amazed. As for this interim board, is the fella in a one bedroomed flat in South Africa on it? OOps that was one of the stupid things that nearly happened, but thanks for your clear and totally full explanation TC.



    Nice of you to say.

    Not to sure what you mean about the one bedroomed flat in South Africa. I have heard about a one bedroomed flat in Manchester and some due diligence though.

    If that is what you meant then, as posted in another thread on this subject, due diligence can mean different things in different situations. As Kenwright described it, he had the guys name checked out as soon as he got it from Keith Harris because he had a team of people doing that sort of work for his theatre operations already.

    In short, it was discovered as quickly as it could have been (aside from Kieth Harris's mismanagement) and it certainly didn't get anywhere near to a situation that you could describe as 'nearly happened' 


    If you found that post informative, you might want to check out the other thread on the subject... will get it and edit this post with it.


    Edit: http://www.evertonfc.com/forum/discussion/485/blue-union....maybe-some-good-has-come-out-of-it............-now-with-added-poll
  • HOWIE8
    Posts: 7,477
    ToffeeCup said:

    HOWIE8 said:

    TC, absoloutly majestic, ive asked for information to have a knowledgeable opinion, well its all there. If Tickets comes up with something to detract what you've just explained i'd be amazed. As for this interim board, is the fella in a one bedroomed flat in South Africa on it? OOps that was one of the stupid things that nearly happened, but thanks for your clear and totally full explanation TC.



    Nice of you to say.

    Not to sure what you mean about the one bedroomed flat in South Africa. I have heard about a one bedroomed flat in Manchester and some due diligence though.

    If that is what you meant then, as posted in another thread on this subject, due diligence can mean different things in different situations. As Kenwright described it, he had the guys name checked out as soon as he got it from Keith Harris because he had a team of people doing that sort of work for his theatre operations already.

    In short, it was discovered as quickly as it could have been (aside from Kieth Harris's mismanagement) and it certainly didn't get anywhere near to a situation that you could describe as 'nearly happened' 


    If you found that post informative, you might want to check out the other thread on the subject... will get it and edit this post with it.


    Edit: http://www.evertonfc.com/forum/discussion/485/blue-union....maybe-some-good-has-come-out-of-it............-now-with-added-poll


    Thanks for that, thought it was SA, but mixing up with the ICI thing. I also thought it was close; cause of the way Kenwright said it in the BU interview, "he smelt a rat". Will look forward to reading the other thread. Again i say top notch info, thanks.
  • ToffeeCup
    Posts: 2,955
    HOWIE8 said:

    ToffeeCup said:

    HOWIE8 said:

    TC, absoloutly majestic, ive asked for information to have a knowledgeable opinion, well its all there. If Tickets comes up with something to detract what you've just explained i'd be amazed. As for this interim board, is the fella in a one bedroomed flat in South Africa on it? OOps that was one of the stupid things that nearly happened, but thanks for your clear and totally full explanation TC.



    Nice of you to say.

    Not to sure what you mean about the one bedroomed flat in South Africa. I have heard about a one bedroomed flat in Manchester and some due diligence though.

    If that is what you meant then, as posted in another thread on this subject, due diligence can mean different things in different situations. As Kenwright described it, he had the guys name checked out as soon as he got it from Keith Harris because he had a team of people doing that sort of work for his theatre operations already.

    In short, it was discovered as quickly as it could have been (aside from Kieth Harris's mismanagement) and it certainly didn't get anywhere near to a situation that you could describe as 'nearly happened' 


    If you found that post informative, you might want to check out the other thread on the subject... will get it and edit this post with it.


    Edit: http://www.evertonfc.com/forum/discussion/485/blue-union....maybe-some-good-has-come-out-of-it............-now-with-added-poll


    Thanks for that, thought it was SA, but mixing up with the ICI thing. I also thought it was close; cause of the way Kenwright said it in the BU interview, "he smelt a rat". Will look forward to reading the other thread. Again i say top notch info, thanks.



    Thanks for the comment.

    The bit about the due diligence is on the second page in the post that starts:

    Gray90, as you've taken the time to register an account on here just to
    reply to this thread I think the least I can do is reply to your last
    post point by point
  • blacktoffee
    Posts: 38

    If the only mantra that the BU supporters and sympathisers can think of is "Well it worked for the RS" in terms of any sensbile solution i'm glad that the march represents the highlight of their campaign. The BU don't own the copyright to wanting investment or a new responsible owner.

  • bluejon2
    Posts: 298
    tickets11 said:

    “We are not going to let this (The King’s Dock stadium)
    chance pass us by”
    Bill Kenwright, July 2001 after Everton FC had been given permission to build
    a 55,000-capacity stadium on the Mersey waterfront at King's Dock.

    “I’ve not got the big money, but I promise to find investment”
    Bill Kenwright, January 2000 after acquiring Everton FC.
    We are still waiting eleven years on.

    “The NTL deal is secured”
    Bill Kenwright, September 2000. The deal fell through.

    “I wouldn’t sell Rooney for £50m”
    Bill Kenwright, June 2004. In August he was sold for a deal worth £27m.

    “The Fortress Sports Fund money will be in the bank in the morning”
    Bill Kenwright speaking at the EGM (remember them?) September 2004.
    The deal collapsed and was never explained.

    “Kirkby will be a world class arena, effectively free and with
    the best transport links in the UK”
    Bill Kenwright speaking at the AGM November 2006.

    “If we don’t leave Goodison soon the place
    will lose its safety certificate”
    Bill Kenwright speaking at the AGM November 2006.

    “David will have cash to spend this Summer”
    Bill Kenwright May 2009. We spent nothing until the sale of Lescott.

    “David will have cash to spend this Summer”

    Bill Kenwright, May 2010.


    a whole host of f*** ups and still people on here try to stand up for him.


    Get afeking life **** your rather with us or your a STINKINGFEKING RS! NowFO
    BORN AN EVERTONIAN AND DIE AN EVERTONIAN.... not Moaning RS
  • blacktoffee
    Posts: 38
    The BU don't hold the copryright to wanting more investment or new owners. But if they seriously believe that all we need to do is copy the RS interim Board "Because it worked for them" clearly don't have a clue about why it worked for them and why it won't work for us.
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