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Posts: 3,136September 2011 Everton boss David Moyes has conceded he may be forced to sell Marouane Fellaini if the star midfielder refuses to sign a new contract.
The Belgium international, who is idolised by the Blues support and considered one of the club's most important players, has been in talks for more than six months.
And while Moyes remains confident an agreement is 'close', he admits he may have to take action if the player reaches January without committing to the club the long term.
That scenario would leave Fellaini with less than 18 months on his contract - and Everton with virtually no option but to sell him next summer.
The Goodison club are wary of the situation after losing out on midfielder Steven Pienaar, who insisted he was close to signing a new contract but then stalled at the last minute.
The Blues were forced to let Pienaar go to Spurs in last January's transfer window for a nominal fee, and Moyes will not allow that to happen again.
Talks are positive with Fellaini, who has been turned into a top class player at Goodison, but the manager admits he is desperately hoping the sale of Mikel Arteta to Arsenal last month doesn't set a precedent.
Moyes insisted at the time it was his decision alone to sell the Spaniard - because Arteta wanted to go and it represented a good deal.
But he conceded: "Yes, there is a danger that selling Mikel could set a precedent, but I hope not. I would like to think we can hang onto our best players.
"But there is always a danger when someone goes after saying they want to leave that it could set a precedent, and we will have to be careful of that."
Fellaini is a valuable asset, with both Chelsea and Arsenal expressing interest, and while Moyes will fight to keep him, he would rather sell in the summer for a big fee than risk losing him for nothing.
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Posts: 3,044September 2011
Of course it doesn't mean selling him on the cheap. If he manages to get himself into a situation where he has 6 months left and does a deal for a fat wage on a free as it looks like Pienaar did then you might want to pray that someone like chelsea comes in and makes sure the underhanded club speaking to players when they shouldn't makes them pay a couple of million.
But he has two years left on his contract, not six months.
His prime is very much in front of him. He has substantial resale value for anyone that buys him.
And he has long been known as one of footballs top prospects and is proving those people were right with us in the Premiership.
He is also a very unusual player in terms of his abilities, size, and position.
There will be a very good market for Fellaini which will dictate that our financial situation isn't an issue.
Also, he isn't on big money here at all currently. And with Arteta and Yakubu off the wage bill then you'd imagine that this is something Everton can now change.
Either way. It shouldn't work out that badly for Everton.
Rooney, Rodwell, Barkley, Coleman, and even Fellaini to a degree too. If you are one of the worlds leading young talents and you want first team action. The team you should sign for is Everton.
That might not be where we want to be, but given our financial situation, it is more than likely a very sensible position.
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Posts: 1,002September 2011
difficult situation to be in.
I cant see fellaini staying in the premier league.
next summer if moyes over prices him, 6 months later he can sign a pre contract on a free. the only realistic thing to do would be to sell him in jan so we get as much money as possible. But I dont there will be too many teams after him, and they will be aware of the fact he will only have 18 months left.
if you look at the teams who finished above us, its unlikley they wiould want him.
arsenal, chelsea, city, united, RS they all have enough CM/DM anyway, and cant see him moving to spurs either.
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Posts: 3,044September 2011
I think Chelsea will take him. Or he'll sign before Jan.
Also, if he does go it might we been in Jan. He'll be fine for any European competition and someone might have a need depending on injuries. But if not, he'll be on the market for both windows I'd imagine.
Just can't foreseen Everton leaving this late, they've spent too much money on him and if a lot of that money hasn't been paid out thus far, I'm sure a decent percentage of what we get will be.
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Posts: 1,002September 2011ToffeeCup said:
Of course it doesn't mean selling him on the cheap. If he manages to get himself into a situation where he has 6 months left and does a deal for a fat wage on a free as it looks like Pienaar did then you might want to pray that someone like chelsea comes in and makes sure the underhanded club speaking to players when they shouldn't makes them pay a couple of million.
But he has two years left on his contract, not six months.
His prime is very much in front of him. He has substantial resale value for anyone that buys him.
And he has long been known as one of footballs top prospects and is proving those people were right with us in the Premiership.
He is also a very unusual player in terms of his abilities, size, and position.
There will be a very good market for Fellaini which will dictate that our financial situation isn't an issue.
Also, he isn't on big money here at all currently. And with Arteta and Yakubu off the wage bill then you'd imagine that this is something Everton can now change.
Either way. It shouldn't work out that badly for Everton.
Rooney, Rodwell, Barkley, Coleman, and even Fellaini to a degree too. If you are one of the worlds leading young talents and you want first team action. The team you should sign for is Everton.
That might not be where we want to be, but given our financial situation, it is more than likely a very sensible position.AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
actually fell off my seat, it was that hilarious. give me some time to recover before writing another post.
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Posts: 1,002September 2011ToffeeCup said:
I think Chelsea will take him. Or he'll sign before Jan.
Also, if he does go it might we been in Jan. He'll be fine for any European competition and someone might have a need depending on injuries. But if not, he'll be on the market for both windows I'd imagine.
Just can't foreseen Everton leaving this late, they've spent too much money on him and if a lot of that money hasn't been paid out thus far, I'm sure a decent percentage of what we get will be.
Why would chelsea take him, ancelotti was interested in him last year, granted, but he has now resigned.Besides chelsea have essien, ramires, mikel and now romeu, chelsea need someone to replace lampard, and you relaly think fellaini is that person.
your posts are hilarious.
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Posts: 3,044September 2011
So you are saying, in reverse order, that in your opinion:
That top young footballing talents once proven in the best league in the world aren't worth a lot of money?
That Everton isn't a team where young promising talent is given a chance where they would not be in other premiership teams?
That Fellaini hasn't been on the list of top young talents for every decent club on the planet to look out for since he was roughly 15?
And that having proven himself in the Permier League at the age of 23 wouldn't have a substantial (signed on a four year deal with one year remaining) resale value at 26?
I realise you have a long established reputation for being exceptionally stupid Tickets. But you really have excelled your own high standards on that front here...
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Posts: 3,044September 2011tickets11 said:ToffeeCup said:
I think Chelsea will take him. Or he'll sign before Jan.
Also, if he does go it might we been in Jan. He'll be fine for any European competition and someone might have a need depending on injuries. But if not, he'll be on the market for both windows I'd imagine.
Just can't foreseen Everton leaving this late, they've spent too much money on him and if a lot of that money hasn't been paid out thus far, I'm sure a decent percentage of what we get will be.
Why would chelsea take him, ancelotti was interested in him last year, granted, but he has now resigned.Besides chelsea have essien, ramires, mikel and now romeu, chelsea need someone to replace lampard, and you relaly think fellaini is that person.
your posts are hilarious.
As you mention Chelsea were interested while Ancelotti was there. It was also a commonly held view that Ancelotti wasn't making the decisions at Chelsea.
Chelsea are undergoing a huge amount of rebuilding due to the age of their team. It will take a few seasons, there will obviously be many changes to their midfield during the course of that.
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Posts: 3,136September 2011ToffeeCup said:
Of course it doesn't mean selling him on the cheap. If he manages to get himself into a situation where he has 6 months left and does a deal for a fat wage on a free as it looks like Pienaar did then you might want to pray that someone like chelsea comes in and makes sure the underhanded club speaking to players when they shouldn't makes them pay a couple of million.
But he has two years left on his contract, not six months.
His prime is very much in front of him. He has substantial resale value for anyone that buys him.
And he has long been known as one of footballs top prospects and is proving those people were right with us in the Premiership.
He is also a very unusual player in terms of his abilities, size, and position.
There will be a very good market for Fellaini which will dictate that our financial situation isn't an issue.
Also, he isn't on big money here at all currently. And with Arteta and Yakubu off the wage bill then you'd imagine that this is something Everton can now change.
Either way. It shouldn't work out that badly for Everton.
Rooney, Rodwell, Barkley, Coleman, and even Fellaini to a degree too. If you are one of the worlds leading young talents and you want first team action. The team you should sign for is Everton.
That might not be where we want to be, but given our financial situation, it is more than likely a very sensible position.
my concern would be that, if Fellaini is here in the summer with only 1 year left on his contract......add to that everyone knows we're broke and badly need the money...we're not in a good negotiating position, as we badly need money, so we can't play hard ball with any club like we did with the lescott deal....we played hardball with the potential transfer of Yakubu and got burned badly........if some club offers us 10m next summer for Fellaini, can we turn that down?.....not sure we could, and for me thats selling Fella on the cheap. -
Posts: 3,044September 2011NSNO said:ToffeeCup said:
Of course it doesn't mean selling him on the cheap. If he manages to get himself into a situation where he has 6 months left and does a deal for a fat wage on a free as it looks like Pienaar did then you might want to pray that someone like chelsea comes in and makes sure the underhanded club speaking to players when they shouldn't makes them pay a couple of million.
But he has two years left on his contract, not six months.
His prime is very much in front of him. He has substantial resale value for anyone that buys him.
And he has long been known as one of footballs top prospects and is proving those people were right with us in the Premiership.
He is also a very unusual player in terms of his abilities, size, and position.
There will be a very good market for Fellaini which will dictate that our financial situation isn't an issue.
Also, he isn't on big money here at all currently. And with Arteta and Yakubu off the wage bill then you'd imagine that this is something Everton can now change.
Either way. It shouldn't work out that badly for Everton.
Rooney, Rodwell, Barkley, Coleman, and even Fellaini to a degree too. If you are one of the worlds leading young talents and you want first team action. The team you should sign for is Everton.
That might not be where we want to be, but given our financial situation, it is more than likely a very sensible position.
my concern would be that, if Fellaini is here in the summer with only 1 year left on his contract......add to that everyone knows we're broke and badly need the money...we're not in a good negotiating position, as we badly need money, so we can't play hard ball with any club like we did with the lescott deal....we played hardball with the potential transfer of Yakubu and got burned badly........if some club offers us 10m next summer for Fellaini, can we turn that down?.....not sure we could, and for me thats selling Fella on the cheap.
Fellaini is a very different kettle of fish to Yakubu to be fair to Fellaini.
You don't really know how old Yakubu is but you do know he's pretty much past it and he hasn't been the same since his injury either. Plus the money he was on was more than most clubs would consider paying him so he was effectively being incentivised to stay here but play out on loan.
If you look at what Moyes is doing in the press he is talking up our chances of a deal but explaining that his already a top player at 23 and what 'what he'll be like at 26-27' which is pretty much as stated above the potential resale period for any club buying him in the Jan or summer windows.
He has also been on the radar of all the top clubs since childhood, spurs had an offer turned away before we got him and him proving himself in the premiership at this age will have added a healthy premium too.
Looks to me that Moyes wanted a contract signing before the end of this window but is preparing the ground for a sale if he doesn't sign before the Jan window, where our not being in any euro comp might help too.
He may well stay and be one of our top earners (he's not on much from his original contract), but if he leaves I'm sure we'll do well out of it.
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Posts: 776September 2011 agree with above. we have messed up again. even if we sell him in Jan which even if we do it will be at the end of the window again for a reduced price. to be honest i think we will be lucky to get our money back. At very best....we get 20 mil which is 5 mil profit. . . even the hardcore fans have to admit that EFC is terrible at negotiating contracts
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Posts: 5,198September 2011 felli will sign, hes only young and will have the usual get out clauses, i dont think he would stitch us up and leave on the cheap, hes said all along hes happy here ,he also has stated that he owes moyes a lot, i just got a feeling hes got nothing really to lose signing a contaract, yeh he can go on a free in 2 years time and get the money, but as i said hes young, if he fulfills his potential and a big club comes in for him hes gonna make stacks of money, i just got this feeling he will sign. misguided me lol
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Posts: 156September 2011 has to sign a new deal by january or be sold
Cant see any other way for it to be handled.
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Posts: 3,044September 2011
Proof if proof were needed. If perennial troll AllAroundMyHat says its a mistake... its bound to work out great!
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Posts: 24,216September 2011 If tickets has said he will leave to go abroad then he will, cos tickets is always right.
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Posts: 3,302September 2011 I think Chelsea are the least likely club of those who finished above us to want Fellaini - now that they have signed Romeu (if he works out good). Ramires is still only in mid 20s and Essien is the right side of 30 too I think.
I think any of the other teams could be interested. Aresnal definately need more steel in midfield. They're tight though and may see more value in hoping the likes of Frimpony and Coquelin develop into top class. Diaby isn't good enough for them, that only leaves Song in the DM role and I genuinely believe Fellaini is a class above him!
Liverpool also. Lucas and Spearing - Nobody will tell me Fellaini isn't an upgrade on them!
Tottenham are out of the question - despite common held views, they're not spending money with the redevelopment of WHL surrounding areas starting now!
I think if I were Alex Ferguson, I'd be more keen than any of them!
Maybe someone from Spain too! Even someone like Malaga with their Qatari billionaire.
All we need is 2 or more of them to want him! Then we'll get a fair price.
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Posts: 776September 2011 ToffeeCup. Why do you have to resort to insults? are you angry with the world or something?
you dont know me from Adam.
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Posts: 5,198September 2011 aresenal i think, maybe spurs if modric leaves for bags of cash, and my money is on moyes being there manager in the near future .
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Posts: 3,044September 2011Beano said:
I think Chelsea are the least likely club of those who finished above us to want Fellaini - now that they have signed Romeu (if he works out good). Ramires is still only in mid 20s and Essien is the right side of 30 too I think.
I think any of the other teams could be interested. Aresnal definately need more steel in midfield. They're tight though and may see more value in hoping the likes of Frimpony and Coquelin develop into top class. Diaby isn't good enough for them, that only leaves Song in the DM role and I genuinely believe Fellaini is a class above him!
Liverpool also. Lucas and Spearing - Nobody will tell me Fellaini isn't an upgrade on them!
Tottenham are out of the question - despite common held views, they're not spending money with the redevelopment of WHL surrounding areas starting now!
I think if I were Alex Ferguson, I'd be more keen than any of them!
Maybe someone from Spain too! Even someone like Malaga with their Qatari billionaire.
All we need is 2 or more of them to want him! Then we'll get a fair price.
He's also be a good target for arsenal too.
I'm just saying that there would be a healthy market for Fellaini and I see no reason for any doom or gloom regarding his situation.
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Posts: 3,044September 2011AllAroundMyHat said:
ToffeeCup. Why do you have to resort to insults? are you angry with the world or something?
you dont know me from Adam.
Thats unfair and wildly misguided of you.
It wasn't an insult and I am a big fan of yours. Your never ending stream of wilding inaccurate and intentionally funny transfer rumours never ceases to entertain. Along with those you fool into thinking you're being serious and their often irate responses.
I didn't mean 'troll' in a derogatory fashion at all... more in a manner of acknowledging one of the internets more shady art forms...
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