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am i the only 1 who can see?
  • happyhound
    Posts: 156
    that whenever shiteinga plays the whole back 4 and keeper are useless.
    he totally unsettles the back 4 and i have been saying this for 3 years.
    he isnt premier league quality and he makes are back 4'S average size less than the 7 dwarves.
    he doesnt have any real pace he cant head a ball he is a lightweight in the tackle and all he does is hit a few glory balls from the back.
    FFS Moyes cant u see the bloody obvious sell this useless git in january and put Distin back in the team till u can find a decent strong left footed centre back who can replace him because Heitinga is a liabilty
  • OldGoldenVision
    Posts: 19,509
    happyhound yer say?
  • happyhound
    Posts: 156
    i will be happy if we get rid of that useless dutch pri(k
  • OldGoldenVision
    Posts: 19,509
    happyhound said:

    i will be happy if we get rid of that useless dutch pri(k


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    hahaha
  • IdiAminDaDa
    Posts: 7,476
    happyhound said:

    i will be happy if we get rid of that useless dutch pri(k


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    Wha' d'yer mean mate?
  • garyjones1987
    Posts: 31
    need to play distain and also drop jelavic for a few games just does not seem him self
  • Jay McD
    Posts: 1,134
    Let's not panic, we had enough chances to put this game to bed, I agree with the heitinga comments but not as strongly and he probs worth a few bob. Ref against us again or so it seems

    Every title challengers have a blip lol

  • Zildjian
    Posts: 167
    sell him and get lescott back
  • CharlieCroker
    Posts: 950
    Agree with the Distin argument. He deserved to come on as a sub, at least. Those second-half corners might have told a different story, if he had been in the box for them.
  • Fyldeblue
    Posts: 7
    Totally agree about Heitinger.....and sadly Coleman just isn't a Prem League defender
  • sambo applecart
    Posts: 24,216
    Fyldeblue said:

    Totally agree about Heitinger.....and sadly Coleman just isn't a Prem League defender


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    Agreed, i like him but defensively he is a liability. 
  • Warrington Dan
    Posts: 8,858
    happyhound said:

    i will be happy if we get rid of that useless dutch pri(k


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    JUST TO CONFIRM. THIS ONE ISN'T ME! Although Heitinga has been gash since/ during the Euros. 
  • Winston Wolfe
    Posts: 4,664
    happyhound said:

    that whenever shiteinga plays the whole back 4 and keeper are useless.
    he totally unsettles the back 4 and i have been saying this for 3 years.
    he isnt premier league quality and he makes are back 4'S average size less than the 7 dwarves.
    he doesnt have any real pace he cant head a ball he is a lightweight in the tackle and all he does is hit a few glory balls from the back.
    FFS Moyes cant u see the bloody obvious sell this useless git in january and put Distin back in the team till u can find a decent strong left footed centre back who can replace him because Heitinga is a liabilty


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    Not a fan then?
  • happyhound
    Posts: 156
    bump
  • blue1948
    Posts: 376
    happyhound said:

    that whenever shiteinga plays the whole back 4 and keeper are useless.
    he totally unsettles the back 4 and i have been saying this for 3 years.
    he isnt premier league quality and he makes are back 4'S average size less than the 7 dwarves.
    he doesnt have any real pace he cant head a ball he is a lightweight in the tackle and all he does is hit a few glory balls from the back.
    FFS Moyes cant u see the bloody obvious sell this useless git in january and put Distin back in the team till u can find a decent strong left footed centre back who can replace him because Heitinga is a liabilty


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    YOU ARE A TOSSER  FIRST GRADE

  • milky71
    Posts: 8,769
    remind me who is the current player of the season.
  • happyhound
    Posts: 156
    milky71 said:

    remind me who is the current player of the season.


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    He had 10 good games last season but did he get ur vote for player of the season?
    I dont know any1 who thought he was better than baines or fellaini or for that matter jelavic who only played half the season.

    Sometimes players seem to get player of the season just to sell a few shirts i think.

    He has been absolute crap for us apart from a few games last season-the dutch manager after the world cup said he would never select heitinga again (and he wont cuz he got sacked) but i wish moyes would take his advice.

    Sell this bloody awful excuse for a player and use the money to sign a decent defender Moyes and do it before we slide down into the pack again!
  • xreyuk123
    Posts: 785
    The whole back 4 and keeper have been useless for the past 6-8 weeks, it's got **** all to do with Heitinga.

    It's got to do with poor defenders making regular mistakes (Distin), poor form (Jagielka) and Moyes picking a lad who clearly hasn't got much experience in defending (Coleman). Then you've got Howard on top of that making mistakes week in week out, but we haven't got a keeper I'd feel confident replacing him with (not that he'd get replaced anyway because he's one of Moyes' bum boys).


  • happyhound
    Posts: 156
    xreyuk123 said:

    The whole back 4 and keeper have been useless for the past 6-8 weeks, it's **** all to do with Heitinga.


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    Since he got in the team in place of distin we havent won a game and who had hold of bassongs shirt in the box and then let go of it and let him have a free header for the equalizer?
    If you dont think that was Sheitinga's fault today then u know nothing at all about football !

  • xreyuk123
    Posts: 785
    How many games has Heitinga played ahead of Distin?

    Why do you think Moyes put Heitinga in the starting lineup in the first place? Because Distin is a decent defender, but he's about as reliable as a chocolate fireguard, he makes mistake, after mistake, after mistake, but because we were scoring goals at the time, nobody noticed.

    Now that we stopped scoring goals, people noticed. The defending hasn't got any worse with Heitinga in the team, it's been this **** all year long, the difference is we haven't been scoring so people have now noticed the defending is ****.
  • happyhound
    Posts: 156
    i have been saying Sheitinga is a bad player since we signed him not for the last 5 games and yes we were making defensive errors before he got in the team but at least we were winning

    No player is perfect but Distin is miles better than heitinga

    he has more pace he is better in the air and he is left footed and can tackle all quite useful things for a centre half on the left hand side of the defence

    Heitinga has 0 pace is lazy cant tackle cant head the ball and just sits at the back allowing people to run past him
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