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Everton are for sale..... at £100 million??
  • MavisCruet
    Posts: 1,794

    First point: escla said your argument was "articulate" and "winning".
    There's nothing articulate or winning about your participation in this
    thread! 



    Secondly: I do not follow you around. This is the FIRST time I have
    started dialog with you. Every other time we've spoke, you have sought
    me out. The time-line doesn't lie! Glad to have cleared that up for you.



    Thirdly: If you were not being your usual abusive self -- I would not be responding to you today.

    Finally: You will be censored on this subject with regard your level of abuse. Those are the rules here, proposed by an anti-bu member (mavis) and agreed upon by milky with his 'abuse' thread.



    I didn't join owt!  I am a one man clique.  I wont accept any more members, I am too sore.

    Though I do agree on the playing nice bit.

  • ToffeeCup
    Posts: 3,160

    ToffeeCup said:

    ToffeeCup said:

    milky71 said:

    Okay everyone ,TC especially quit the abusive tone





    Milky. I've posted at length on this subject. On the whole its
    been described as 'articulate' and generally winning the debate. I've
    also described why I've chosen to post in a very condescending and
    patronising manner to BU supporters and on the subject as a whole.

    Despite
    this I've got Prophet following my posts around daily and saying how
    condescending and abusive my comments are while spitting bile in my
    direction.

    If you want to ban me or feel it necessary to do so
    then please do so, I will not trouble you with registering another
    username or hiding my ip, etc.


    But I'm not going to be censored on this subject. Choice is yours.





    First point: escla said your argument was "articulate" and "winning".
    There's nothing articulate or winning about your participation in this
    thread!



    Secondly: I do not follow you around. This is the FIRST time I have
    started dialog with you. Every other time we've spoke, you have sought
    me out. The time-line doesn't lie! Glad to have cleared that up for you.



    Thirdly: If you were not being your usual abusive self -- I would not be responding to you today.

    Finally: You will be censored on this subject with regard your level of abuse. Those are the rules here, proposed by an anti-bu member (mavis) and agreed upon by milky with his 'abuse' thread.




    I don't reply to any of your posts that aren't aimed at me and you certainly don't start any threads. If you have such a problem with me and feel its me following you around then just stop posting in my direction and give it a try eh?

    Milky can you just look at his post history and make this clear to him...its like have a shadow on here and it is more than a little unnerving.

    I'm complete unconcerned about your view of the rules or my threads, posts and opinions. I will not be censored, but am happy to be banned if those making those judgements want to do it.


    The time-line doesn't lie.

    I have nothing else to say to you.

    Milky, you need to speak to this lad or remove the 'abuse' thread.



    Your post history doesn't lie, and neither does mine....Milky, if you please?


  • MavisCruet
    Posts: 1,794
    Right, the two of you, stop running to teacher and act your ages.  You're both at times eloquent and informed posters, you're both better than standing there saying "He started it Miss".
  • ToffeeCup
    Posts: 3,160

    Right, the two of you, stop running to teacher and act your ages.  You're both at times eloquent and informed posters, you're both better than standing there saying "He started it Miss".





    I think you'll find...in the 'timeline' that he did run to "Miss" first.





  • MavisCruet
    Posts: 1,794
    ToffeeCup said:

    Right, the two of you, stop running to teacher and act your ages.  You're both at times eloquent and informed posters, you're both better than standing there saying "He started it Miss".





    I think you'll find...in the 'timeline' that he did run to "Miss" first.







    That better be dripping in irony or you'll be staying after class writing lines!
  • ToffeeCup
    Posts: 3,160


    Even if it wasn't.... by the looks of some of your photos, I'm going nowhere near your classroom!
  • MavisCruet
    Posts: 1,794
    ToffeeCup said:



    Even if it wasn't.... by the looks of some of your photos, I'm going nowhere near your classroom!



    I thought I made a rather fetching Hitler.
  • ToffeeCup
    Posts: 3,160


    Yes... yes you did.
  • MavisCruet
    Posts: 1,794
    ToffeeCup said:



    Yes... yes you did.



    What's the point of a hairy upper lip if you can't amuse yourself and put off women at the same time?
  • The Prophet
    Posts: 75

    Right, the two of you, stop running to teacher and act your ages.  You're both at times eloquent and informed posters, you're both better than standing there saying "He started it Miss".




    His tone towards two decent civil lads today (and not just today, but every day, towards pretty much anyone with a different opinion) - totally unprovoked - is surely everything you were complaining about?

    You either agree that the abuse needs to stop, or not.
  • ToffeeCup
    Posts: 3,160

    ToffeeCup said:



    Yes... yes you did.



    What's the point of a hairy upper lip if you can't amuse yourself and put off women at the same time?



    I'm going to take some time to reflect and come back to you on that point.
  • MavisCruet
    Posts: 1,794

    Right, the two of you, stop running to teacher and act your ages.  You're both at times eloquent and informed posters, you're both better than standing there saying "He started it Miss".




    His tone towards two decent civil lads today (and not just today, but every day, towards pretty much anyone with a different opinion) - totally unprovoked - is surely everything you were complaining about?

    You either agree that the abuse needs to stop, or not.



    I can understand that people get frustrated arguing on here, especially as not much changes, so it's the same things you go over, and lose patience.  I have levelled both barrels at people on here in my annoyance.

    I must confess I have skimmed some of this thread, though I thought I had read most of TCs posts.  It didn't strike me as especially malevolent until you and he clashed, though as I said, it was not read at length, I was on my mobile.

    I agree that abusing people has to stop, yes, it's just not the place for it.  We can set up a no holds barred forum easily if we want to, this is the club's and should be safe for fans of all ages.

  • bluedayz
    Posts: 120
    ToffeeCup said:

    bluedayz said:

    dmh2008 said:

    ToffeeCup said:

    dmh2008 said:

    why is the club not for sale for what the board payed for it? i though didnt take money out of the club. I dont think the board have payed over 50mil for the club.


    An for those sating the squad is worth more. than 100 mil. the squad is worth nothing if the players leave on a free and if we cant pay the wages for fellini a new contract then he will be gone for nothing having cost 15mil. 




    ohh look. another first time poster!

    can i not have an opinion?





    Apparently not.

    If you do and it's not the same as what TC's or more to the point, not what he assumes is your opinion you 'deserve patronising' 'no respect' and abuse because it has no validity, according to TC that is!




    I said anyone who supports BU 'deserves patronising' and 'no respect'

    .But according to you are not a BU supporter... so I can't see why you'd feel the need to quote that post.


    You explained to milky that I was a clown sent over by the BU.
    I am not a part of the BU however I do have a similar opinion of what they stand for.
  • ToffeeCup
    Posts: 3,160


    Good grief.... now he's asking anyone who listen, mod or otherwise, about what a nasty man I am. Just pitiful.
  • bluedayz
    Posts: 120
    ToffeeCup said:

    milky71 said:

    Okay everyone ,TC especially quit the abusive tone





    Milky. I've posted at length on this subject. On the whole its been described as 'articulate' and generally winning the debate. I've also described why I've chosen to post in a very condescending and patronising manner to BU supporters and on the subject as a whole.

    Despite this I've got Prophet following my posts around daily and saying how condescending and abusive my comments are while spitting bile in my direction.

    If you want to ban me or feel it necessary to do so then please do so, I will not trouble you with registering another username or hiding my ip, etc.


    But I'm not going to be censored on this subject. Choice is yours.



    I started a thread about a newspaper reporting that bk was asking for £100m for EFC, I even included question marks in the title.
    No presumptions made, no predictions or criticism of anyone elses opinions.
    What is it you say, on the whole your posts have been described as 'articulate' and generally winning the debate?
    Is this the debate with me? And I'm a fairy clown or whatever you called me... your deluded pal!
  • ToffeeCup
    Posts: 3,160


    If you want to read my post history on the subject, then feel free. You are very welcome.

    But please, don't expect me to answer every one of your ham fisted, poorly thought out and embarrassingly regurgitated opinions that you've been fed and felt the need to post on here. There's a good chap.








  • bluedayz
    Posts: 120

    Right, the two of you, stop running to teacher and act your ages.  You're both at times eloquent and informed posters, you're both better than standing there saying "He started it Miss".




    His tone towards two decent civil lads today (and not just today, but every day, towards pretty much anyone with a different opinion) - totally unprovoked - is surely everything you were complaining about?

    You either agree that the abuse needs to stop, or not.



    I can understand that people get frustrated arguing on here, especially as not much changes, so it's the same things you go over, and lose patience.  I have levelled both barrels at people on here in my annoyance.

    I must confess I have skimmed some of this thread, though I thought I had read most of TCs posts.  It didn't strike me as especially malevolent until you and he clashed, though as I said, it was not read at length, I was on my mobile.

    I agree that abusing people has to stop, yes, it's just not the place for it.  We can set up a no holds barred forum easily if we want to, this is the club's and should be safe for fans of all ages.



    I'm sorry but he was very much abusive in his reponses and I'm grateful for Prophets recognition of this as it is starting to feel like most on here just agree with what TC says.
    I disagree with some of the things TC has stated in this thread but I by no means felt the need to abuse him for having a different opinion to that of me or the BU.
    Frustrated or not, it is no excuse to patronise or abuse anyone with a different opinion! On the official Everton FC forum.
  • ToffeeCup
    Posts: 3,160
    bluedayz said:

    ToffeeCup said:

    bluedayz said:

    dmh2008 said:

    ToffeeCup said:

    dmh2008 said:

    why is the club not for sale for what the board payed for it? i though didnt take money out of the club. I dont think the board have payed over 50mil for the club.


    An for those sating the squad is worth more. than 100 mil. the squad is worth nothing if the players leave on a free and if we cant pay the wages for fellini a new contract then he will be gone for nothing having cost 15mil. 




    ohh look. another first time poster!

    can i not have an opinion?





    Apparently not.

    If you do and it's not the same as what TC's or more to the point, not what he assumes is your opinion you 'deserve patronising' 'no respect' and abuse because it has no validity, according to TC that is!




    I said anyone who supports BU 'deserves patronising' and 'no respect'

    .But according to you are not a BU supporter... so I can't see why you'd feel the need to quote that post.


    You explained to milky that I was a clown sent over by the BU.
    I am not a part of the BU however I do have a similar opinion of what they stand for.



    quelle surprise!

  • bluedayz
    Posts: 120
    ToffeeCup said:



    If you want to read my post history on the subject, then feel free. You are very welcome.

    But please, don't expect me to answer every one of your ham fisted, poorly thought out and embarrassingly regurgitated opinions that you've been fed and felt the need to post on here. There's a good chap.










    No thanks, I have no desire to read your post history. I can imagine what I will read! Your opinion, you going off topic to get your opinion across, you abusing people for having different opinions to you, you predicting outcomes that don't stand by trend, you assuming things, you not listening to other peoples opinions.

    "don't expect me to answer every one of your ham fisted, poorly thought out and embarrassingly regurgitated opinions that you've been fed and felt the need to post on here. There's a good chap". Here you go again, arguing with yourself! Calm down, I'm just an Evertonian with an opinion you don't like. There's a good boy!
  • MavisCruet
    Posts: 1,794
    bluedayz said:




    I'm sorry but he was very much abusive in his reponses and I'm grateful for Prophets recognition of this as it is starting to feel like most on here just agree with what TC says.
    I disagree with some of the things TC has stated in this thread but I by no means felt the need to abuse him for having a different opinion to that of me or the BU.
    Frustrated or not, it is no excuse to patronise or abuse anyone with a different opinion! On the official Everton FC forum.



    I think you may be getting a backlash which may not be of your own making.  when this whole thing started, and became the Blue Union, there were posters on here, albeit briefly, who were horrendously aggressive, abusive, belligerent and utterly stubborn in the name of getting Kenwright out.  I for one was really annoyed by their constant usurping of posts, attacking of users and generally abusing and belittling anyone that didn't share their view.

    This is not a justification of you receiving abuse.  I notice that Milky, who is sadly the only mod left on here I think did chastise TC earlier, and if you feel that certain posts are attacking you, or inflammatory I would suggest using the Flag thing which I assume will draw an individual part to the Mod's attention, they can then decide on the appropriate action. 

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