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Posts: 16,350October 2012 I don't think anyone is saying its the parents fault.
But questions will be asked.
If I say I wouldn't let my 5 year old out my sight, particularly when they are disabled then no I wouldn't. Does that make me parent of the year ? No it doesn't. Just my own personal belief.
It's a cruel society and as Parents we have to protect our children as well as we can. No we can't always be there but we do what we can.
Should you be allowed to walk through a park at 10 o'clock at night ? Yes... But would you ?
It's not the parents fault she's been taken. Nobody ever thinks that' could happen , but its always a possibility.
It's the person who took her that's the vermin and the judicial system for letting him walk the streets.
Cos ill bet all the money I have we will discover alot about him why he shouldn't be. -
Posts: 2,850October 2012 Well put it this way if there was a parent watching the kids would the_bastard who took her had the balls to do it? No because they are_fucking cowards. Just like the McCanns if they hadn't left 3 infants all alone they wouldn't have lost maddie.
so what I'm saying is if you aren't there for your kids at the time they needed their parents the most they ever would in their lives and you are either 1. sitting on yer fat_arse watching neighbours on channel 5 or 2. Having a_piss up on holiday while they are left on their lonesome then yes they are bad parents.
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Posts: 1,748October 2012 It's not that simple.
We all have moments where our concentration has lapsed. I've done it too and it almost ended in tragedy.
If it had, I've no doubt society would be pointing the finger. But no more than I would be pointing the finger at myself. And I would have had to live with that for the rest of my life.
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Posts: 2,850October 2012AussieSheila said:
It's not that simple.
We all have moments where our concentration has lapsed. I've done it too and it almost ended in tragedy.
If it had, I've no doubt society would be pointing the finger. But no more than I would be pointing the finger at myself. And I would have had to live with that for the rest of my life.
Parents are human. Since when do we have to be **** perfect?-----------------
Listen just because you're a bad parent don't tar us all being where I'm from you have to watch them like a hawk and nope no near tragedies for me because mine are the most important thing in my life and I treat their safety as no 1 priority.
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Posts: 1,748October 2012tonyd said:
Listen just because you're a bad parent don't tar us all being where I'm from you have to watch them like a hawk and nope no near tragedies for me because mine are the most important thing in my life and I treat their safety as no 1 priority.
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Tony .....
Long may you continue to be the perfect all-seeing all-knowing parent.
I'm just human. And they're the most important thing in my life too. -
Posts: 2,455October 2012 Oh come on tony, have you never driven away from the supermarket and realised a mile down the road that you left the baby in the buggy in the car lark ? I did !
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Posts: 2,850October 2012escla said:
Oh come on tony, have you never driven away from the supermarket and realised a mile down the road that you left the baby in the buggy in the car lark ? I did !
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Nein , never , didn't your prime minister leave his kid in a pub or something a while back?
He's a bad parent too.
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Posts: 2,850October 2012AussieSheila said:
Tony .....
Long may you continue to be the perfect all-seeing all-knowing parent.
I'm just human. And they're the most important thing in my life too.-----------------
Where does it say that because you're just human bad things are going to happen to your kids, only if you don't look after them that is. If yer can't be_arsed to look after them because dallas is on don't have them its as simple as that.
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Posts: 1,748October 2012tonyd said:
Where does it say that because you're just human bad things are going to happen to your kids, only if you don't look after them that is. If yer can't be_arsed to look after them because dallas is on don't have them its as simple as that.
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Now you're just trying to wind me up babe.
And I've never watched Dallas or Corrie or Eastenders or Neighbours for that matter.
Got 3 gorgeous lads though who somehow survived. Guess we were just lucky. -
Posts: 3,301October 2012
Anyone who says they never let their kids out of their sight is either telling massive porky's, or hasn't actually got any!
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Posts: 16,350October 2012 I've got 2 and at 5 years old there was no chance.
I've only just started letting my 14 year old get the bus to school. -
Posts: 376October 2012brboy1 said:
Sick & tired of the screaming liberals telling me; Hold back,Don't have an opinion,You can't say this,You can't say that.
If you don't ask questions & sit on your hands,to afraid to speak out,invariably **** happens.
Get these questions in the open,maybe some one else who could of been in a similar position in 6 mths will have 2nd thoughts.
I don't,nor do many people,know all the facts.We didn't in the terrible case of the Mcganns.
Still babies were left neglected,tragically.
Noone new all the facts then but read between the lines & only a fool would not see neglect even before the facts came out.
Sorry McGanns if your reading this.
Jusy my humble opinion.-----------------
And humble should be the word for you for the rest of your life you illiterate moron
I "lost "my son five metres from me only to find him seconds later .You cannot plan for this or lock your kids up the place she has gone from is so local but I better not words you don't understand you p rick
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Posts: 1,519October 2012 wasn't really my intention to start a good parent/shit_parent argument, i think that's irrelevant at the moment
i just wanted to show support for April AND her parents, this could happened to any one of us with kids and the feelings you get just from even to start thinking if anything like this would happen to one of your own is just undescribable
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Posts: 958October 2012 Blue1948.
I'm an illiterate moron, after that post?.
don't take the p-iss.
I may not be Mr grammatics 2012.but give me a break.
Comment on what I'm saying,not my literacy.
Don't let your 5 year old out to play at night,full stop.
Its not the middle of July,it gets dark at 7 p.m.
To all the other perfect parents who don't wrap there kids in cotton wool,good luck.
'Cos back in the old days we didn't need to! This internet sh-it is breeding nutters by the millions.
They spread stories & filth to each other like never before,so now,it is different.
Parents need to be aware of the 'boom' in child pornography & take APPROPRIATE action.
Trust me,theres some bad ****-ers out there so look after your most precious. -
Posts: 1,748October 2012 The question that needs to be asked is - why is it that men commit these heinous crimes against children/women.
Is there something in your DNA that pre-disposes you to this kind of crime? We very rarely hear of these crimes committed by females acting alone.
Just a thought......
I have always picked up my kids (and teenagers). And other people's too. But there may always be that one occasion when they decide they can do it for themselves.
No-one can wrap their kids in cotton wool. Most of these cases end up with a good, sensible kid being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
And it never ends. I still worry about mine. And will probably do so till the end of my days. But if we instill fear in them (as opposed to caution) they will never live a free life.
The penalties for these offences are what we really need to address. -
Posts: 376October 2012brboy1 said:
Blue1948.
I'm an illiterate moron, after that post?.
don't take the p-iss.
I may not be Mr grammatics 2012.but give me a break.
Comment on what I'm saying,not my literacy.
Don't let your 5 year old out to play at night,full stop.
Its not the middle of July,it gets dark at 7 p.m.
To all the other perfect parents who don't wrap there kids in cotton wool,good luck.
'Cos back in the old days we didn't need to! This internet sh-it is breeding nutters by the millions.
They spread stories & filth to each other like never before,so now,it is different.
Parents need to be aware of the 'boom' in child pornography & take APPROPRIATE action.
Trust me,theres some bad ****-ers out there so look after your most precious.-----------------
Fair enough
The point I was trying to make is you cannot wear another man's shoes ,it is too easy to judge
We all make mistakes
I was upset because you got on your high horse and missed the point that there is a girl missing and her parents are beside themselves
Now is not the time
COYB
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Posts: 24,216October 2012blue1948 said:
We all make mistakes
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Erm, with out sounding cocky mate, speak for yourself like...... ;) -
Posts: 376October 2012AussieSheila said:
The question that needs to be asked is - why is it that men commit these heinous crimes against children/women.
Is there something in your DNA that pre-disposes you to this kind of crime? We very rarely hear of these crimes committed by females acting alone.
Just a thought......
I have always picked up my kids (and teenagers). And other people's too. But there may always be that one occasion when they decide they can do it for themselves.
No-one can wrap their kids in cotton wool. Most of these cases end up with a good, sensible kid being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
And it never ends. I still worry about mine. And will probably do so till the end of my days. But if we instill fear in them (as opposed to caution) they will never live a free life.
The penalties for these offences are what we really need to address.-----------------
perfect sense sheila
Very rational and concise ,well thought out and in my opinion correct
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