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NSNO thread re protest.... working on the chants now
  • ToffeeCup
    Posts: 2,979

    I've said there is little point in replying to you. Some times common courtesy has little to do with having an actual point.

    Also, sometimes deso, just being truthful is the best form of courtesy even it there is no point as the person concerned just won't take it in.



    Just like all the ridiculous actions and statements of the BU have washed over you without you batting an eyelid... such is your hatred of Bill Kenwright.


    I wish Everton had more money too Deso, I wish they had owners who were billionaires. But you won't catch me doing a rain dance in the hope that those will change.



  • Michael Barrymore
    Posts: 762
    ToffeeCup said:

    ToffeeCup said:

    ToffeeCup said:



    I'm not going to enter into the simplistic nature of entering into swiping generalisations bag you've been hawking around on this issue so far.

    But I will say that you appear to be assuming I don't think there is much support for this. On the contrary, given the financial performance of Everton over recent years compared to that of perceivably lesser clubs. And the prevelance of a whole host of weird and wonderful (if ill conceived in my view) belief system around the world.

    Its hard not to envisage there being an awful lot of support for this. But that doesn't make it right.

    To be fair though, I'm very much in favour a bit of protest and dissent. Its just that those doing the shaping of this campaign, the reasoning, its aims and the manner in which it has been conducted. Its more than poor, and they are acting like complete idiots that they so clearly are. Thats what I'm disappointed with.



    But its not that I don't think think there will be sizeable support for it though. As our planet has proved time and time again, we have no shortage of stupid people.





    Weren't you part of fat lass and co's crew protesting abar the arl blueroom?

    You were a right citizen smith if I remember right like




    I was on their forum. I didn't attend the meeting.

    When you'd had (even if you did prompt it to some extent yourself) a moderator threaten via PM to turn up on your doorstep because they have your IP address.... You kind of have an interest in seeing the place sorted out.


    I take it you had a different username on here.


    oh sh'it I remember that wasn't that escla?




    No, it wasn't escla.

    So what username/'s did you have on here previously


    on what time scale ?
  • ToffeeCup
    Posts: 2,979

    ToffeeCup said:

    ToffeeCup said:

    ToffeeCup said:



    I'm not going to enter into the simplistic nature of entering into swiping generalisations bag you've been hawking around on this issue so far.

    But I will say that you appear to be assuming I don't think there is much support for this. On the contrary, given the financial performance of Everton over recent years compared to that of perceivably lesser clubs. And the prevelance of a whole host of weird and wonderful (if ill conceived in my view) belief system around the world.

    Its hard not to envisage there being an awful lot of support for this. But that doesn't make it right.

    To be fair though, I'm very much in favour a bit of protest and dissent. Its just that those doing the shaping of this campaign, the reasoning, its aims and the manner in which it has been conducted. Its more than poor, and they are acting like complete idiots that they so clearly are. Thats what I'm disappointed with.



    But its not that I don't think think there will be sizeable support for it though. As our planet has proved time and time again, we have no shortage of stupid people.





    Weren't you part of fat lass and co's crew protesting abar the arl blueroom?

    You were a right citizen smith if I remember right like




    I was on their forum. I didn't attend the meeting.

    When you'd had (even if you did prompt it to some extent yourself) a moderator threaten via PM to turn up on your doorstep because they have your IP address.... You kind of have an interest in seeing the place sorted out.


    I take it you had a different username on here.


    oh sh'it I remember that wasn't that escla?




    No, it wasn't escla.

    So what username/'s did you have on here previously


    on what time scale ?




    of this forum....pm if you'd prefer
  • milky71
    Posts: 8,769
    milky71 said:

    "We have no shortage of stupid people"..T.C.

    That's probably true,but in my experience they're found on both sides of an argument.

    Can I ask you..forgetting about protests...is there a stage at which,even you,might harbour doubts about whether this club could operate..shall we say simply..more successfully? And if so will that most likely be:

    When the club is relegated.
    After a period of years of similar performance to what we have been enjoying
    When the debt level coupled with continued non investment ensures extinction of the club




    Can i ask

    Do you think the team underperformed last season due to lack of investment or due topoor management.

    The club is currently performing at a reasonable level compared to the prior Chairman.


    The debt level has just been drastically reduced

    I'll take that as a no then
  • IhateRS
    Posts: 1,091

    Have you been on kipper lately? There are 5 pages of uninterrupted "YES"s to protesting.

    SOS1878 seems pretty pro BU too.

    It seems to me that this is the only forum with such an anti-BU feeling. I'm not sure why that is, though.



    I can answer that one mate. Its quite simple. Even those that hate BK, tend to listen to other peoples opinions on this site, whereas elsewhere it doesn't matter what you say or how right you are, it will be ignored if its not massively Anti-Kenwright.
    Look at the posts on Kipper, even the remotest positivity is hit with a barrage of insults and the endless use of the word apologist.
    Here though if you have a point, you say it, you get a discussion, therefore a more rounded view, personally I would be more inclined to follow the opinion of those that have listened to two sides of an argument far more than the blinkered crusades from other sites I go on.
    Having said that, I don't have anything against them protesting, I am not pro BU because of various mistakes they have made that have annoyed me, also the general attitude of many of its followers makes me want to be as separate from that sort of person as possible.
  • The Prophet
    Posts: 75
    IhateRS said:

    Have you been on kipper lately? There are 5 pages of uninterrupted "YES"s to protesting.

    SOS1878 seems pretty pro BU too.

    It seems to me that this is the only forum with such an anti-BU feeling. I'm not sure why that is, though.



    I can answer that one mate. Its quite simple. Even those that hate BK, tend to listen to other peoples opinions on this site, whereas elsewhere it doesn't matter what you say or how right you are, it will be ignored if its not massively Anti-Kenwright.
    Look at the posts on Kipper, even the remotest positivity is hit with a barrage of insults and the endless use of the word apologist.
    Here though if you have a point, you say it, you get a discussion, therefore a more rounded view, personally I would be more inclined to follow the opinion of those that have listened to two sides of an argument far more than the blinkered crusades from other sites I go on.
    Having said that, I don't have anything against them protesting, I am not pro BU because of various mistakes they have made that have annoyed me, also the general attitude of many of its followers makes me want to be as separate from that sort of person as possible.


    In amongst the countless halfwits, morons, idiots and swines taunts, a lad yesterday claimed he'd rather have the LFC badge tattooed on his face than be seen in a Blue Union t-shirt.

    This isn't really the place for "rounded views" either. It's as anti-BU here as it is pro-BU on kipper and the likes.

    I do appreciate your tone though; it's nice to discuss this without being labelled part of the BU for a change.
  • milky71
    Posts: 8,769
    Did someone say that on here.
  • milky71
    Posts: 8,769
    Oh Dear

  • deso1957bc
    Posts: 545
    ToffeeCup said:


    I've said there is little point in replying to you. Some times common courtesy has little to do with having an actual point.

    Also, sometimes deso, just being truthful is the best form of courtesy even it there is no point as the person concerned just won't take it in.



    Just like all the ridiculous actions and statements of the BU have washed over you without you batting an eyelid... such is your hatred of Bill Kenwright.


    I wish Everton had more money too Deso, I wish they had owners who were billionaires. But you won't catch me doing a rain dance in the hope that those will change.





    You are the second person this week to claim truth is on your side

    As for not batting an eyelid...I have not posted one pro BU thread since the controversy began,nor prayed for a billionaire..as for your reference to my hatred of B.K. let me put it this way.I was aware from the day he took over that he hadn't the money.I respected his efforts nevertheless.The last few years have shown that his efforts/love for the club are simply not good enough anymore.I don't hate him,I don't hate anyone come to that.

    You are the one who has acted the zealot on here over last few weeks with your anti BU rants

    Your language in relation to anyone not in agreement with you has been immoderate to the point of fanatical.

    I asked for your opinions as a means of ascertaining what drives your one sided,abusive and repetive posts.

    I'm still no wiser however.
  • The Prophet
    Posts: 75

    ToffeeCup said:


    I've said there is little point in replying to you. Some times common courtesy has little to do with having an actual point.

    Also, sometimes deso, just being truthful is the best form of courtesy even it there is no point as the person concerned just won't take it in.



    Just like all the ridiculous actions and statements of the BU have washed over you without you batting an eyelid... such is your hatred of Bill Kenwright.


    I wish Everton had more money too Deso, I wish they had owners who were billionaires. But you won't catch me doing a rain dance in the hope that those will change.





    You are the second person this week to claim truth is on your side

    As for not batting an eyelid...I have not posted one pro BU thread since the controversy began,nor prayed for a billionaire..as for your reference to my hatred of B.K. let me put it this way.I was aware from the day he took over that he hadn't the money.I respected his efforts nevertheless.The last few years have shown that his efforts/love for the club are simply not good enough anymore.I don't hate him,I don't hate anyone come to that.

    You are the one who has acted the zealot on here over last few weeks with your anti BU rants

    Your language in relation to anyone not in agreement with you has been immoderate to the point of fanatical.


    I asked for your opinions as a means of ascertaining what drives your one sided,abusive and repetive posts.

    I'm still no wiser however.


    This.

    But especially this.
  • milky71
    Posts: 8,769
    The pman s getting riled again
  • The Prophet
    Posts: 75
    milky71 said:

    The pman s getting riled again



    Fond of that riled word aren't you?
  • milky71
    Posts: 8,769
    i think it's my word of the week.

    Thanks for ntroducing her to me
  • IhateRS
    Posts: 1,091

    IhateRS said:

    Have you been on kipper lately? There are 5 pages of uninterrupted "YES"s to protesting.

    SOS1878 seems pretty pro BU too.

    It seems to me that this is the only forum with such an anti-BU feeling. I'm not sure why that is, though.



    I can answer that one mate. Its quite simple. Even those that hate BK, tend to listen to other peoples opinions on this site, whereas elsewhere it doesn't matter what you say or how right you are, it will be ignored if its not massively Anti-Kenwright.
    Look at the posts on Kipper, even the remotest positivity is hit with a barrage of insults and the endless use of the word apologist.
    Here though if you have a point, you say it, you get a discussion, therefore a more rounded view, personally I would be more inclined to follow the opinion of those that have listened to two sides of an argument far more than the blinkered crusades from other sites I go on.
    Having said that, I don't have anything against them protesting, I am not pro BU because of various mistakes they have made that have annoyed me, also the general attitude of many of its followers makes me want to be as separate from that sort of person as possible.


    In amongst the countless halfwits, morons, idiots and swines taunts, a lad yesterday claimed he'd rather have the LFC badge tattooed on his face than be seen in a Blue Union t-shirt.

    This isn't really the place for "rounded views" either. It's as anti-BU here as it is pro-BU on kipper and the likes.

    I do appreciate your tone though; it's nice to discuss this without being labelled part of the BU for a change.


    Yeah but to be fair there are only a handful that will try to force their opinions you here.
    Bluekipper is 99% full of people that will not listen to even the remotest of positive things about Bill. Try pointing out to someone that we are higher in the league than we were before and you get a massive lecture on being an apologist.. Complete with a minimum of 30 swear words.
  • slden90
    Posts: 162
    haha this is laughable. do we realy need a protest for the board to under stand how we feel? i think not! all it will do is make other clubs laugh and mock us. a club like everton thrives on the support of their fans, so if we start turning on the board what effect will that have on the team. cmon lads (and ladies) use ya noggin. get behind the whole setup beause we are the mighty everton fc!! 
  • ToffeeCup
    Posts: 2,979

    ToffeeCup said:


    I've said there is little point in replying to you. Some times common courtesy has little to do with having an actual point.

    Also, sometimes deso, just being truthful is the best form of courtesy even it there is no point as the person concerned just won't take it in.



    Just like all the ridiculous actions and statements of the BU have washed over you without you batting an eyelid... such is your hatred of Bill Kenwright.


    I wish Everton had more money too Deso, I wish they had owners who were billionaires. But you won't catch me doing a rain dance in the hope that those will change.





    You are the second person this week to claim truth is on your side

    As for not batting an eyelid...I have not posted one pro BU thread since the controversy began,nor prayed for a billionaire..as for your reference to my hatred of B.K. let me put it this way.I was aware from the day he took over that he hadn't the money.I respected his efforts nevertheless.The last few years have shown that his efforts/love for the club are simply not good enough anymore.I don't hate him,I don't hate anyone come to that.

    You are the one who has acted the zealot on here over last few weeks with your anti BU rants

    Your language in relation to anyone not in agreement with you has been immoderate to the point of fanatical.

    I asked for your opinions as a means of ascertaining what drives your one sided,abusive and repetive posts.

    I'm still no wiser however.




    Deso. As an Everton fan I just hate to see the club dragged through the gutted in public on about of these clowns. Being Everton Football club, in the world as it is these days, with the owners we have and the stadium we have.

    I just can't see any reason to try and make that worse with these clown like antics. And that is what they are as many people besides me have pointed out.


    As for rants about Everton on an Everton forum. indoctrination and being a zealot... I believe its you who is fond of Toffeeweb. And talk about fanatical, when you following me around this forum spitting bile at every BU comment I make.

    You'll not convince me that they have acted in any other manner that the idiots they are... and I'll not convince you of anything either. So lets just stop posting to each other on this topic.




    Prophet, as a valueless wind up merchant you are fairly decent. But that is all you've brought to this debate, from your alleged position on the fence...


     

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